Oh man, that was beautiful. That was BEAUTIFUL. I watched the whole episode and I loved it. The best part was that they were cheerfully prepared to call out Jack Thompson for the deranged asshole hack that he is.Marine Mike said:
Video Games as a "Murder Simulator"
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No. It is, however, possible for the game to set off a "trigger" due to frustration or disassociation with reality.
But then again, if that's the case, almost anything could do that.
But then again, if that's the case, almost anything could do that.
I've heard arguments to the contrary, that violent games are cathartic.AbsoluteVirtue18 said:
http://www.qj.net/psp/interviews/buddhist-leader-believes-violent-video-games-can-be-therapeutic.html
I've heard that before, and I'm inclined to believe that as well, because before I started gaming routinely I was an emotional rollercoaster, I do think that it's different for each person.SlowShootinPete said:
bestiality is also a big possibility.powell86 said:
I have blamed twilight for a lot of things, this however...seems totally plausible.
Now I feel kinda sick.
OT:I dont know why you feel as if video games could do that much damage.
If you feel that uncomfortable playing the games then maybe you shouldn't play them at all.
Maybe if I was younger, But I think I have the ability to separate Life from a Video game... and anyway, it's not like if I go kill 11 people I'll get an AC130... unless.
I dunno, I may know my M4s from my Aks but if you put on in my hands I'd probably be more likley to knock myself out with the recoil or drop it on my foot than do any harm.
And sure, we've all pretended to be Ezio while cutting carrots but if I'd never played a game, I'd be pretending to be some stabby chap from a movie or a book. Hell I pretended to be Laurence Olivier once.
And sure, we've all pretended to be Ezio while cutting carrots but if I'd never played a game, I'd be pretending to be some stabby chap from a movie or a book. Hell I pretended to be Laurence Olivier once.
And that's assuming you could work up the will to use it in the first place. I've heard that during the Civil War, WWII, and even the Vietnam War, a majority of the soldiers who fired their weapons in combat aimed high instead of actually aiming to kill, and there were some soldiers who didn't even fire their weapons at all. They just couldn't bring themselves to do it, even though people were shooting at them. Which, incidentally, restored some of my faith in humanity.Layzor said:
Being able to name a gun IMO is no different than naming species of dogs. The ability to do so or lack thereof is irrelevant.orangeapples said:
How many people would incorrectly try to reload a gun based on what they saw from video games? How many couldn't figure it out because they don't know what's really involved? Pressing a button on a keyboard or controller does not equate to the ability to operate or reload a firearm.
A school is a place that is familiar to us, and they are shaped to allow a lot of foot traffic and multiple ways to get to places. Seems like that would lend itself well to a FPS map. You could say the same for an office building that you work at, or a shopping mall. Just because the shape of a building's floorplan lends itself well for digital people to shoot each other means nothing.
Holding a knife making you feel like you're in a video game? Seriously? A knife is a tool, one that I use everyday in my work, and I use one to cut my food. If you feel like you're in a video game just because you have a knife in your hand you may want to get your head checked.
Anyone who would kill people because of a video game had mental problems BEFORE the game, and would have done it anyway.
Penn and Teller can teach us all so much... but it is true lol. I see games as more of a stress reduction tool, like squeezing stress balls. You shoot someone in the head, you don't get the temptation to kill someone, you 'are' killing someone, lol.Marine Mike said:
Hey, that's a serious condition and should not be joked about!Ralen-Sharr said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jBKKV2V8eU&feature=player_embedded
No, definitely, no.
Look I admit that games these days, specially shooters, aims for 'realism' but that's where they have their strongest points and weaknesses.
Have you ever held a gun or even shot one? Believe me, if feels way different, the weight and the recoil of a real gun can't be imitated by a controller, and besides, didn't the kids that were part of the shootings at schools had other reasons? I don't exactly remember those articles but I am pretty sure those things happen for reasons far more profound than 'I did it in a video game, so it's cool to do it in real life'.
And about school being a good map... when I was in secondary school some friends tried to model the school building using a mod tool for Duke Nukem... I thought the idea was hilarious !! XD
Look I admit that games these days, specially shooters, aims for 'realism' but that's where they have their strongest points and weaknesses.
Have you ever held a gun or even shot one? Believe me, if feels way different, the weight and the recoil of a real gun can't be imitated by a controller, and besides, didn't the kids that were part of the shootings at schools had other reasons? I don't exactly remember those articles but I am pretty sure those things happen for reasons far more profound than 'I did it in a video game, so it's cool to do it in real life'.
And about school being a good map... when I was in secondary school some friends tried to model the school building using a mod tool for Duke Nukem... I thought the idea was hilarious !! XD
I CALL BULLSHITorangeapples said:
being crazy doesnt make people a killer. crazy is a very loose definition of many different tiers. Video games dont increase tension, reading unfounded arguements about how videogames make killers increases tension.
Oh I know what an M4 is. That makes me a killer. So if I watch war movies I wouldnt know types and models of guns and have a fair idea of how to reload one? War movies cause violence then and so do cop shows because they all have guns and show how they use them.
Crazy + video game = Crazy person playing a video game
Im really glad you are exactly like every other person who has made the claim that video games are violent thus far. Your claims are unfounded and could be applied to many other forms of entertainment but video games is the only one you have a problem with. If video games are to blame for killers then most movies, TV shows, news reports on war, plastic toy soldiers and everything that shows guns in use is to blame for killers according to your arguement.
Also dont generalise people either, thats just a whole other case of narrow mindedness waiting to happen
Just imagine Jack Thompson trying to convince parents that the History Channel is bad for their kids.SnootyEnglishman said:
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No... I really only know general terms like Sniper Rifle, Shotgun, Assault Rifle, and Pistol.
Beyond that... no... I don't own any weapons either... unless you count the knives I use for food preparation.
But then... I don't really play much MW2 and I've never touched Counter-strike.
Yeah I watched that, it was great.Marine Mike said:
And I don't think ANYONE who plays video games without having been taught how to reload a firearm previously could do it. What has FPS's taught us about that? Hit B and you reload a half used clip and somehow don't waste it by replacing it with a new one?