Violence is completely uncensored in videogames... But love is??

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Om Nom Nom

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Jaranu said:
Walk Starcraft 2 be better is Kerrigan was having an insect orgy in a cutscene?
I would find that hilarious.

Arachon said:
I think this is a pretty good answer:
Amen to that sentiment. This whole "think of the children" craze feels horribly shallow and exploitive of the human instinct to protect children. That and parents are just unwilling to 'have the talk'; most kids find out about sex either through the internet, from peers at school, or from religious misinformation that having sex - an act of love I'd remind you - will cause you to burn in hell forever. Lol-freaking-wut. Society today is so self contradicting...

Edit: The Mass Effect games really do lead the way on this, I think. There's sexual content, but just about all of it is in the context of a romantic relationship sub-plot.
 

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It's simple really. America was founded by Puritans (essentially) who conquered thru violence. We as Americans are used to violence. However, that Puritanism still carries thru as love is generally heavily censored. In places like Europe, its the opposite (generally) with heavily censored violence and little to no censorship of sex. It's all about culture. The Europeans have had a history of violence and devastating wars, so why portray more of that? Americans have always idolized war heroes and soldiers, so why change? The censorship of sex (and the like) is based on what is considered "obscene" within a culture. Back to that Puritan thing, sex is considered sinful and evil in the eyes of most Americans (outside of married life or in the media) while in Europe it's just the opposite. That's because Europe has become far more atheistic and secular since the Enlightenment and the old ideas of morality have eroded somewhat.

Personally, i think censorship is total bullshit and i should be allowed to view, play, read, or hear what i want to without the government trying to stop me. (Oddly enough, it's generally the more conservative governments who promote censorship. Guess they aren't as "anti-big government as they claim to be.)
 

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Jonatron said:
TPiddy said:
Also, given that a lot of gamers are teenager, that could cause some uncomfortable situations for them if they were aroused by video game sex and decided to take matters into their own hands.
You talking literally "into their own hands"? I don't see the point you're making.
All I'm saying is that while a violent video game wouldn't necessarily spur a teenage boy into cutting his buddies head off, a sexual video game could possibly spur a teenage boy into rubbing one out on his mom's couch.
 

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People are born and quickly discover for themselves that fighting happens but sex and that sort of stuff is private and kept away from children. It's kept out of games because there are a lot of stupid and irresponsible parents in this world who just let their children play whatever the fuck they want so unless MUCH harsher and stricter laws are put in place this is the only way to prevent children seeing such things.
 

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TPiddy said:
All I'm saying is that while a violent video game wouldn't necessarily spur a teenage boy into cutting his buddies head off, a sexual video game could possibly spur a teenage boy into rubbing one out on his mom's couch.
They're teenagers, they do that anyway. xD
 

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Steel Ronin said:
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Because sex will definitely corrupt our children beyond belief.

Or something? I really don't know. It's the same with films :S
That is THE weakest reply I've seen in my life exept that hope in humanity post i quoted a while ago.So we can teach our kids that smoking crack out of a person skull is good and normal but no "Timmy sex is bad because first only thing you could do is bring more annoying kids into this world now go play in traffic" that is as wrong as you can get exept in the hope in humanity post i mentioned before.
My post was supposed to be sarcastic, laughing at the view that "SEX IS HORRIFIC AND CORRUPTING". Sorry, it wasn't very clear. I don't actually think that....

PauL o_O said:
SnipErlite said:
Because sex will definitely corrupt our children beyond belief.

Or something? I really don't know. It's the same with films :S
So seeing the human body do what it was ment for, will corrupt a child more then seeing a human body being ripped apart while people laugh at it?

Obviously...
You got that I was sarcastic though, right? Right?

Bugger....

Alon Shechter said:
SnipErlite said:
Because sex will definitely corrupt our children beyond belief.

Or something? I really don't know. It's the same with films :S
This, there is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTHING less educative than learning a natural thing that actually made you go out of that dude's testicles and into the world.
You too?

Okay okay I apologise, it wasn't put across very well. My sarcasm failed, my bad :)
 

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Because virtual porn is not hot.

However, if the sex scene can be done in good taste and not entirely shoehorned in there for the sake of giving a fat 12 year old his first boner, then I heartily agree.
 

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DVSAurion said:
The same goes for the bible: lots of people die, very little people make love.
Considering how short and short-lived everybody probably was from lower-quality nutrition and hygeine back in the day, you are exactly right.
 

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Hmmm seems by "love" here we mean loveMAKING. Because I've seen quite a few examples of games with romantic and/or touching love stories. Now sex or, to use a broader word, sexuality....well, don't blame the medium. Blame your parents.

But really, if you're of the legal age and you want sex, why play a game? It's always depicted quite awkwardly and urealistically. Get a girl and do some interactive scenes yourself or if your diplomacy skill isn't very high rent a porn movie.
 

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Om Nom Nom said:
TPiddy said:
All I'm saying is that while a violent video game wouldn't necessarily spur a teenage boy into cutting his buddies head off, a sexual video game could possibly spur a teenage boy into rubbing one out on his mom's couch.
They're teenagers, they do that anyway. xD
^^ This.

Before I get modded for lack of content, yeah... porn's on the internet. If they were going to whack off then they've already done so and got their habits.
 

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While I don't get the logic, personally I am glad.

I'd rather someone thought I was a psychopathic maniac who enjoys ripping people limb from limb with my bare hands than a sexually lonely person who can only get off on pixellated breasts.
 

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Because even the most sensible 10 year old can castrate a guy, rip off the guy's wife's arms and then beat her children to death with them and come to school the next day as normal as crap, but seeing even the most minute sexual act (I.E. A a fellatio) will screw them up even a little bit.
 

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Sinclose said:
Weeell, it's for the same reason you won't see nudity on network TV but you will see violent scenes, I guess. As per social norms, violence is more acceptable than nudity when it comes to visual media. Personally I wouldn't like it if it did become common, I'm pretty sure nudity would be shoehorned and abused in tons of games.
Well put. I think a love scene would be a great addition to a plot, provided it was succinct and in context of the plot, otherwise it would just be a case of "Look, our games got snuggling in it. You wan't to buy it now, yes?"
 

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PauL o_O said:
Can anyone explain to me why I can openly rip a man's arms off, beat him to death with them, and then smoke crack out of his eye sockets in a video game and have in completely uncensored.... But anything involving the act of live (sex, sexual body parts, even references) is entirely censored out of the game? What sick minded person decided that's how things were gonna go?

God of War games are a perfect example.

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PauL o_O said:
Can anyone explain to me why I can openly rip a man's arms off, beat him to death with them, and then smoke crack out of his eye sockets in a video game and have in completely uncensored.... But anything involving the act of live (sex, sexual body parts, even references) is entirely censored out of the game? What sick minded person decided that's how things were gonna go?

God of War games are a perfect example.

/Discuss
Well, for starters violence has been heavily censored or cut out, as have other things like drug use. Consider the censorship Australia has been involved in, which included the removal of the character in "Fallout 3" being shown jabbing needles in their arms, and using drugs with real names like "Morphine". Not to mention what happened with "Manhunt 2" in general. Violence has not gotten away totally unscathed.

There has been plenty of sex in video games as well if you know where to look for it, including an entire genere of "adult" video games that are nothing but non-stop sex.

"Porn" has always been a touchy subject when it comes to any kind of media, things either being "adult films" with a lot of sex, or a regular movie which might have an "R" rated sex scene. Combining actual sex or kink, with an otherwise straightforward movie is something you just generally don't see done.

A big part of the problem is the guardianship of children and not wanting to see them exposed to sex too early, and it's not just a matter of them turning into perverts, sex can be scary to someone who doesn't understand it and doesn't have that kind of drive. The quintessential "kid warped for life by wandering in on his parents having sex", or thinking he sees some guy attacking his mom, or whatever. A lot of people who argue these points don't really try and see things from the perspective of a child.

When it comes to adults the issue is less moral and religious than many people might think. There are a lot of perfectly temporal/rational arguements made about pornography and how it objectifies women and so on. I tend not to agree with this (men are just meat in porn too, and there is plenty of it directed at women as well), but consider there are a LOT of people who believe this, and a lot of feminist leaders depend on being able to argue against porn and similar things to keep their platform active and wield political power. Porn represents an enemy, and with the right arguements can be an enemy that unites women under a banner that a few people control. Sort of like why a lot of racial stuff still exists as an "issue" instead of being let die, without something "racist" to attack there is no enemy to justify "black rights" (or whatever ethnicity) groups, and that means the people controlling those groups, making money, and being important enough to be consulted and have a say in policy lose their power. A good enemy is almost priceless, especially when it only exists in the eyes of the masses. Porn is one of those political enemies.

To put it into perspective, how many times have you heard people say that rape is worse than murder? Probably quite a few. You've probably also heard a lot of people talk about how this justifies being able to continue persecuting a sex offender even after society has officially punished them via sex offender lists, community information, and other things. The issue of rape being tied to the "objectification of women" (which can be a teneous chain of logic) and of course it's porn that objectifies women. What's more if it's a horror game or something where rape is present, it is argued that it encourages this behavior even if presented as a bad thing. A game where you have a sexy female lead who has sex a lot, can be seen as giving a bad message and either teaching girls to be promiscuous, or teaching men that all men are like that. A game where you have some dude who is a stud who has a lot of sex can be argued as encouraging men to see women as sexual playthings or less than full humans.... none of these arguements are correct, or accurate, but they don't have to be, all you need to do is convince enough people, form a platform, and if your vocal enough policy can be influanced no matter how many people actually disagree.
 

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I agree with some of you that this is merely religion related. Battle and violence are glorified in many religious acts such as the Crusades. Words are less regulated.