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[Aris Khandr]

If you can't laugh at yourself, for watching a show about ponies, aimed at little girls, then what can you laugh at?

Furries and Sonic fans. Those seem to be the two eternal joke targets on the internet, right?

EDIT: No, I am not advocating laughing at either. Just that those two groups seem to be constantly the jokes on the internet. Though some of those Sonic fans do go a bit too far...

 

[Psymon138]

I suppose what I'm saying is that, unlike a lot of fanbases, you really have to reach to mock bronies, and the only thing one has to joke about them is that they're watching a show for little girls. And then you have to deal with the whole, "people don't insult adults who love Transfomers, or other male-oriented franchises" sexism thing...

I've never seen anyone mocking of bronies actually, in any way, seem funny. Go ahead and laugh at the raving Halo fanboys, or the stupid Sonic recolor fan characters. And if you can find something other than, "Lol, dudes liking little girl cartoons," then I guess you get to make fun of bronies, too.
Without a good reason to laugh at bronies, it all seems like someone's insecure with their masculinity or think themselves too kewl for anything mainstream.

To be honest, I don't think the masculinity argument holds water. While the Transformers franchise as a while is certainly for kids, the films that most people who claim to love it have seen are rather more adult-oriented. And to be fair, MLP is a show aimed at tween girls. Doesn't mean it's not good, but just because people laugh at its fans doesn't mean they're holding them in contempt or anything.

As something of a brony myself I don't find the idea of someone laughing at me offensive. It is a fairly silly concept and if you can't even laugh at yourself you are taking life far too seriously.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

If you can't laugh at yourself, for watching a show about ponies, aimed at little girls, then what can you laugh at?

Furries and Sonic fans. Those seem to be the two eternal joke targets on the internet, right?

Hell, I think one of the main reason they're still mocked is because everyone knows how worked up they get.

Trolling on a grand scale.

 

[Jazoni89]

If you can't laugh at yourself, for watching a show about ponies, aimed at little girls, then what can you laugh at?

There's a difference between joking around about something, and somebody going to Fox News levels of offensive nonsensical slander about something. The NPR incident was the latter, not the former, and that's why the Brony-folk have been up in arms about it this whole time.

Hell, we Bronies are fully aware (or at least I am fully aware) that watching a show primarily aimed at little girls is rather bizarre. I've joked about it several times with fellow Brony friends without problem, so we are fully capable of laughing at ourselves. The thing is, though, when somebody attacks you without proper evidence and even goes as far as twisting the words of the creator of a show you enjoy to make it look like they think you're fucked up when in reality that couldn't be further from the truth, I'm pretty sure getting angry is a very acceptable response.

I heard the the segment.

It was obviously a joke.

Again, persecution complex.

It's no different that the Big Bang Theory poking fun at comic book geeks, except, you know, people don't get pissy about it.

I call it insecurities, it seems like nearly every single brony has it, which makes it seem all the more ironic that they like it.

I've always had the mentality of "I like what I want to like, and fuck the haters", and so far, it's done me a whole load of good in life. I think fans of my little pony should just take a leaf out of that book, instead of making topics about how strange they feel liking something aimed at a female audience. If you are walking about with that mentality, you are obviously being forced by others to like it, rather than liking it on a personal level.

To me, it seems more like a cult, than a fandom.

 

[SillyBear]

What about people who are actually being offensive or downright pathetic?

If you are actually offended because someone teases you about watching a TV show you like, you're the pathetic one. 99.9999% of the time the person making the joke is way less pathetic than the person crying over it. This is no exception. This was one of the most harmless "controversial" jokes I have ever seen in my life. Not even joking. The reaction of the MLP community was absolutely pathetic and mocked them even more than any joke targeted at them ever could.

The brony community has some of the most impressive fanworks in such a short period of time, and have managed to convert hard-core trolls into people whose philosophy is to "love and tolerate the shit" out of people they don't like.
And you don't have to watch the show to enjoy a lot of the fanstuffs, either; I liked Derpy before I ever saw the thing.

"I like My Little Pony so anyone who doesn't like it is being illogical."

That's all you're really saying there. Halo fans could make just as convincing arguments about their fandom.

I suppose what I'm saying is that, unlike a lot of fanbases, you really have to reach to mock bronies

No, not really. Once again you're using your own bias to make your own point here.

"people don't insult adults who love Transfomers, or other male-oriented franchises" sexism thing...

Hell yes they do. I see people be scorned and dealt a whopping blow of smug elitism for even mentioning Michael Bay's Transformer films all the time.

I've never seen anyone mocking of bronies actually, in any way, seem funny. Go ahead and laugh at the raving Halo fanboys, or the stupid Sonic recolor fan characters.

"Jokes about my fandom aren't funny because I like it and I think it is above being made fun of. Jokes about other people's fandom is funny though, because even though they like it and they think it is above satire, they're wrong".

You're acting like you actually have the answers to this. Humour is one of the most subjective things on the planet, and it's pretty clear that many people do find pony jokes funny. Once again, fans of Sonic and Halo could make just as convincing arguments here.

And if you can find something other than, "Lol, dudes liking little girl cartoons," then I guess you get to make fun of bronies, too.
Without a good reason to laugh at bronies, it all seems like someone's insecure with their masculinity or think themselves too kewl for anything mainstream.

Why do people need a reason that you approve of to make fun of something? People can make fun of whatever the fuck they want in any way they want, and they shouldn't have to apologise for mocking you about a fucking TV show. Grow a pair. If you honestly get offended when you are ribbed for watching MLP, you live a way too sheltered life.

You don't need to desperately try to convince haters they're being illogical and in truth MLP is actually the best show ever, because that just makes you seem even more childish. You don't need to cry and complain because someone made a completely harmless joke about a TV show. All you need to do is shut your mouth and continue watching it and enjoy it.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I just don't get it.

I mean... is it a show for little girls or is it not? Why do Ponyologists get so defensive about the show? They clearly don't like it in an 'ironic' way like stoned students enjoy Tellytubbies.

What am I missing here that other people see in this show?

 

[Erana]

I heard the the segment.

It was obviously a joke.

Again, persecution complex.

It's no different that the Big Bang Theory poking fun at comic book geeks, except, you know, people don't get pissy about it.

Except their audience prolly isn't going to know what a brony is before their ridicule. They're defining a negative stereotype, which to me is downright unacceptable.

Its like how I'll take people making jokes about gay stereotypes, but won't tolerate any form of ridicule of asexuals. Most people don't even know we exist. First impressions make a huge impact on social understanding, so if we're characterized as, say, physically defunct, socially inept losers or something, we're going to have to live with that for decades.

I mean, ponies aren't anywhere as significant as sexual identity, of course, but for their national audience, they went and defined as people who like to exploit disability, and are hermit freaks whose entire lives are ponies.
You know, instead of just saying, "Bronies are people outside of the target audience that like My Little Pony."

Its like how people slapped furries with the, "All furries are sexual deviant orgy fursuit freaks" thing that they've been stuck with for years. And honestly, I don't think furries were all that sensitive to insults until someone who liked Tokyo Mew Mew had to deal with someone saying they wanted to fuck their neighbor's cat.

 

[gammazuma]

This issue stems to an inability to accept feminine males in society.

This.

I loved it when NPR had a go at them. It was clearly tongue in cheek and if you feel persecuted over that you are a fucking cry baby. Imagine being someone who gets actually persecuted about something important. You'd explode.

You "bronies" do watch a show aimed at little girls and the show is about ponies. You can bloody well expect to encounter some ribbing. Stop acting like little girls. NPR shouldn't have to apologise at all.

You seem to think this issue doesn't matter at all and that men should stop acting like girls. But you know what? I'm never gonna stop acting like a girl, because I'm an incredibly feminine male. You should grow up and realize not everyone conforms to the rigid social gender norms.

 

[Pinkamena]

Oh I have no problem with the fact that people think Bronies are weird for liking My Little Pony. In my case, I'm a brony because I think the show is genuinely funny and that the stories are good. What I don't like is people hating on the show before they've watched it. Don't be prejudicial...

I guess the whole "Ponies taking over the internet" will fade down a notch, but will always be a part of the internet culture.

 

[SillyBear]

This issue stems to an inability to accept feminine males in society.

This.

I loved it when NPR had a go at them. It was clearly tongue in cheek and if you feel persecuted over that you are a fucking cry baby. Imagine being someone who gets actually persecuted about something important. You'd explode.

You "bronies" do watch a show aimed at little girls and the show is about ponies. You can bloody well expect to encounter some ribbing. Stop acting like little girls. NPR shouldn't have to apologise at all.

You seem to think this issue doesn't matter at all and that men should stop acting like girls. But you know what? I'm never gonna stop acting like a girl, because I'm an incredibly feminine male. You should grow up and realize not everyone conforms to the rigid social gender norms.

Your reading comprehension isn't great, is it? You should notice I use the word little before the word girl. I don't care if you act like a girl. It is a problem if you act like a 5 year old girl though.

And yes, I don't believe adults should be acting like little girls. I also don't believe adults should start crying and act like absolute babies because their TV show got teased. It's pathetic and makes you look ridiculous. Do you have any idea how many truly persecuted groups of people there are out there? It's a joke and if you watch MLP you can expect to encounter ribbing. Everyone gets teased about something, grow a skin and deal with it. If you like the show, why the hell do you care if NPR said MLP fans live with their parents in the basement?

 

[Erana]

What about people who are actually being offensive or downright pathetic?

If you are actually offended because someone teases you about watching a TV show you like, you're the pathetic one. 99.9999% of the time the person making the joke is way less pathetic than the person crying over it. This is no exception. This was one of the most harmless "controversial" jokes I have ever seen in my life. Not even joking. The reaction of the MLP community was absolutely pathetic and mocked them even more than any joke targeted at them ever could.

The brony community has some of the most impressive fanworks in such a short period of time, and have managed to convert hard-core trolls into people whose philosophy is to "love and tolerate the shit" out of people they don't like.
And you don't have to watch the show to enjoy a lot of the fanstuffs, either; I liked Derpy before I ever saw the thing.

"I like My Little Pony so anyone who doesn't like it is being illogical."

That's all you're really saying there. Halo fans could make just as convincing arguments about their fandom.

I suppose what I'm saying is that, unlike a lot of fanbases, you really have to reach to mock bronies

No, not really. Once again you're using your own bias to make your own point here.

"people don't insult adults who love Transfomers, or other male-oriented franchises" sexism thing...

Hell yes they do. I see people be scorned and dealt a whopping blow of smug elitism for even mentioning Michael Bay's Transformer films all the time.

I've never seen anyone mocking of bronies actually, in any way, seem funny. Go ahead and laugh at the raving Halo fanboys, or the stupid Sonic recolor fan characters.

"Jokes about my fandom aren't funny because I like it and I think it is above being made fun of. Jokes about other people's fandom is funny though, because even though they like it and they think it is above satire, they're wrong".

You're acting like you actually have the answers to this. Humour is one of the most subjective things on the planet, and it's pretty clear that many people do find pony jokes funny. Once again, fans of Sonic and Halo could make just as convincing arguments here.

And if you can find something other than, "Lol, dudes liking little girl cartoons," then I guess you get to make fun of bronies, too.
Without a good reason to laugh at bronies, it all seems like someone's insecure with their masculinity or think themselves too kewl for anything mainstream.

Why do people need a reason that you approve of to make fun of something? People can make fun of whatever the fuck they want in any way they want, and they shouldn't have to apologise for mocking you about a fucking TV show. Grow a pair. If you honestly get offended when you are ribbed for watching MLP, you live a way too sheltered life.

You don't need to desperately try to convince haters they're being illogical and in truth MLP is actually the best show ever, because that just makes you seem even more childish. You don't need to cry and complain because someone made a completely harmless joke about a TV show. All you need to do is shut your mouth and continue watching it and enjoy it.

My point remains: the only joke is that My Little Pony is being watched by men. I haven't seen anyone actually be funny when insulting bronies, and the only reasons I can find for doing so are because someone is incredibly insecure or they don't like mainstream things.


Really. Prove me wrong. Find one good, funny point about bronies, other than that they're men watching a children's cartoon.

I'm not offended, I'm annoyed. Its like someone going, "Haha, you wet yourself!" when someone spilled their lemonade on their pants over and over, then goes, "Geez, chill out, dude" when they tell them to stop.

 

[Jim Grim]

Why should they have to apologise for mocking people for liking a T.V show? It's not like they're some kind of oppressed people. I mock my friends for liking certain T.V shows all the time.

Mainly because, the bronies would probably kill him, his wife, his children, and his dog if gotten the chance.

They are very defensive when it comes to my little pony, surely you should know that by now.

To be honest, until I saw this thread I assumed the whole thing was semi-ironic. Like, they state the fact that they like the show so proudly as a sort of defence mechanism to keep them from feeling to embarassed by playing the whole thing off in a funny self-deprecating kind of way. But now to find out that there are people who are willing to complain about this kind of thing, and that the term 'bronie community' is being thrown around with a straight face... Major facepalm.

 

[DEAD34345]

I didn't find it so bad myself...
Slander (even the "offensive" kind) was pretty much expected by me on day 1, and I've never let other's opinions of me get in my way before.

Go ahead and laugh at the raving Halo fanboys, or the stupid Sonic recolor fan characters. And if you can find something other than, "Lol, dudes liking little girl cartoons," then I guess you get to make fun of bronies, too.
Without a good reason to laugh at bronies, it all seems like someone's insecure with their masculinity or think themselves too kewl for anything mainstream.

You realise the justification for mocking both those things is just as flimsy?

You're no better than the people you're so offended at. "Raving Halo fanboys" and "stupid Sonic recolor fan characters"? I'm sorry, but I find it kind of pathetic that you can be so dismissive and offensive to other fanbases (that have probably received just as much unjust hate as bronies) in the very same post as you explain why the people mocking your fanbase were in the wrong.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

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Again. Persecution complex.


Sure, some people have issues with feminine males, a lot of them tend to be homosexual in that regard, so it can also be tossed in with homophobia.

Bronies keep comparing people poking fun at them with that of racial or sexual prejudice.

And it's just not that.

They're taking the piss, because you like watching a show aimed at little girls. Some of the hate is bound to be malicious, but the majority of people are just having a giggle at your expense and then think nothing more of it.

This isn't a social movement, people will not look back at MLP, and see that it abolished gender roles.

 

[wolas3214]

Bronies before Hoenies.

Anyway, its spreading a positive message and its a genuinley good show with likeable characters. The culture is amusing and its very hard not to laugha t a 300 trailer replaced with ponies. I guess what im saying is that its a good thing so long as you arnt too serious about it. Love and tolerate and always check your cupcakes for a cutie mark

 

[SillyBear]

My point remains

It really doesn't. Your argument is this:

"I like MLP, therefore I don't find jokes that are anti-MLP to be funny. Therefore anyone who makes a MLP joke is not funny and doesn't even have a point".

No shit you think that. That's because you like the show. I have never seen a valid critcism or a funny joke about Coldplay either. That's because Coldplay is my favourite band and if I honestly believed they had valid faults they would be my favourite band in the first place. To someone who doesn't adore Coldplay, they probably do find lots of the jokes humorous. It's all to do with bias, and your argument is 100% centred around your own bias. That's why it is so weak.

You're using your own bias to make your own point seem stronger. You even slagged off Halo and Sonic and implied they're different. You do realise their fans can make equally as valid arguments as you?

I'm not offended, I'm annoyed. Its like someone going, "Haha, you wet yourself!" when someone spilled their lemonade on their pants over and over, then goes, "Geez, chill out, dude" when they tell them to stop.

I tremendously adore what you did here. For some reason, I think comparing someone crying over spilt lemonade to the people who are crying over being ribbed for like MLP is a pretty damn good analogy.

 

[Pinkamena]

So can we tell me the difference between calling black people 'niggers' and calling bronies 'losers'?

Because one seems to be approved of online since words can't hurt you and sensitive people should fuck off because comedy always has victims, but the other is unacceptable because 'BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW'.

I'll wait.

Because "******" is simply a different word for "Black person", and "loser" is a personal opinion. It's like calling gamers losers.