The only reason that the Black Templars and Tau didn't tear each other to pieces at Damocles was because Hive Fleet Behemoth was bearing down on the Gulf. And then the Tau did pretty much tear the Tyranids to shreds.Xpwn3ntial said:
Warhammer 40000 6th Edition: Hope at last
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at $125 for a rule book and $70+ for 10 models there is no hope on my end.
yay for living in australia and GW blocking any 3rd party stockist shipping to us.
yay for living in australia and GW blocking any 3rd party stockist shipping to us.
WAIT! I know the real reason why the Ultramarines and Tau agree to work together. They're both BLUE.Soviet Heavy said:
Would you like your Smurfs as Catholic Space Nazis, or as Weeaboo Space Communists?Xpwn3ntial said:
"-Tyranids fight with each other now. Hive Fleets compete with each other and clash over food on planets. The Hive Mind is still stated to be directing the overall Tyranid race regardless of this, this is probably the stupidest thing in the Codex."
Yeah that's pretty stupid, if they're still connected to the hivemind then they know they're of the same species and are buddies, the best thing probably to do would be for one to consume the other for it's genetic material so instead of 2 fleets you get one superfleet. The only time I've ever seen nids killing nids is when in Dawn of War 2 you kill a creature with a synapse link, then they become feral and suddenly it's every nid for his/her/itself.
Yeah that's pretty stupid, if they're still connected to the hivemind then they know they're of the same species and are buddies, the best thing probably to do would be for one to consume the other for it's genetic material so instead of 2 fleets you get one superfleet. The only time I've ever seen nids killing nids is when in Dawn of War 2 you kill a creature with a synapse link, then they become feral and suddenly it's every nid for his/her/itself.
Space commies anydaySoviet Heavy said:
"It saddens me greatly that we must take arms against the peoples of the galaxy. By their deaths, they deny themselves the liberation that is only to be found in total surrender to the Greater Good." Tau 4th ed quote
While I'll always follow the fluff since Ive been a big 40k nerd for over 10 years, and continue to find it an awesome universe, I will simply not support a company with the business practices of GW.
Fuck them, yearly price increases, lowering the number of models in each box (particularly frustrating for swarm armies orks/nids etc) and the overall worst thing they could and can do, their total silence on the subject. No reason or attempt to give a reason is made by Games Workshop as to why they have increased prices every year by an average of 10% for at least the past 5-6 years. If they were to point out that the increases were a knock on from increased costs of production or another issue, then maybe my hate for them would be held back. But since they give no explanation and just keep upping the prices, Fuck 'Em.
Some cool fluff developments in 6th edition though.
Fuck them, yearly price increases, lowering the number of models in each box (particularly frustrating for swarm armies orks/nids etc) and the overall worst thing they could and can do, their total silence on the subject. No reason or attempt to give a reason is made by Games Workshop as to why they have increased prices every year by an average of 10% for at least the past 5-6 years. If they were to point out that the increases were a knock on from increased costs of production or another issue, then maybe my hate for them would be held back. But since they give no explanation and just keep upping the prices, Fuck 'Em.
Some cool fluff developments in 6th edition though.
His soul/spirit/psychic force/whatever acts as the North Star of space, yes.Doclector said:
But.
The theory is that if the Emperor dies, he'll be reborn in the Warp as an actual God, kicking the Chaos Gods' arses, et cetera et cetera the Imperium of Mankind wins all of space.
Or, he dies and all is lost.
This had been addressed in the previous Tyranid Codex. Their infighting is in no way "stupidest thing in the codex". They fight and compete with one another to find the strongest genes and mutations - the "defeated" fleet is consumed by the winner and ALL the biomass is used to improve the Tyranid species as a whole. Tyranids do not waste their own - they eat and re-purpose them in an improved form.
'Nids suffer no losses from such "war". It's more akin to bio research, as nothing is lost, but a lot is gained, in exchange for time. Survival of the fittest for the benefit of all Tyranids. While other races kill each other, 'Nids just keep growing better and better. Makes me wish that GW did not alter the fluff for the C'Tan - having "The Outsider" as a potential Great Hive Mind was sooo neat.
In regards to Tau, I've read somewhere previously that GW introduced the idea that Emperor was searching for aliens that are immune to Chaos influence, and imparted onto Astartes to continue the search. Tau are these aliens. Now the Marines are protecting them, as they are the mankind's hope to push back the Ruinous Powers back into the Warp and seal them there.
Hope is good.
I'm actually in the middle of building an army that is the herald of Emperor's return, composed of Custodes and the Terran guard(Allie rules FTW). Oh and an Avatar of "The Man" himself. Great Crusade II: the Sequel
Meh. The Tau can whip Chaos ass any day, plus they don't have to travel through the warp so even if the emperor dies it wont affect them in the slightest.Loop Stricken said:
Smurfs and Tau teamed up for unexplained reasons? Sounds like usual Tau fluff to me. Half explained nonsense while the Imperium and Chaos get all the face time. Fuck that.
And that my friends is the TRUE undercurrent of hope in the 40k universe, a universe free of his fluff.Akexi said:
That was explained in one of the Nid rulebooks. Tyranids grow new tyranids by essentially melting down bio-matter and reconstituting it. So if a couple of hive fleets fight, the loser just becomes more nids resulting in no net loss for the species at all. At the same time, the fight allows both fleets to determine which is superior; and any useful traits that the loser fleet has are used in the next generation of tyranids. So it strengthens the tyranids as a whole.Soviet Heavy said:
That was from a couple of codexes ago. No idea what the 'canon' explanation is now, but I'm guessing it will still be something along those lines.
When the emperor eventually dies he'll become a new chaos god due to all the worship, and the entire imperium will essentially be a really big eye of terror. So no, not good at all.TheFinish said:
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We can't even manage to not have war on this one planet, if we had an entire galaxy there would certainly be a war happening in a few places around it at the same times.MetroidNut said:
Eh...so, nothing too big changed?
Secondly, getting hive fleets to fight each other doesn't tell you which is best. It might tell you which is best at fighting the other hive fleet, that's not to say they are best at fighting everyone else.
Mind you, if the nids are expecting to fight other nid-like things, then it makes sense, and would be quite the development in the fluff, though I doubt it.
Doesn't make sense. Destroying your own forces is a bad idea, even if you are going to put them through a recycler afterwards, you still lose out unless your recycler is 100% efficient and consumes no power.someonehairy-ish said:
Secondly, getting hive fleets to fight each other doesn't tell you which is best. It might tell you which is best at fighting the other hive fleet, that's not to say they are best at fighting everyone else.
Mind you, if the nids are expecting to fight other nid-like things, then it makes sense, and would be quite the development in the fluff, though I doubt it.