Unfortunately, that's one reason I lose hope in humanitySkullkid4187 said:The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
Unfortunately, that's one reason I lose hope in humanitySkullkid4187 said:The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
http://www.giftfromwithin.org/html/columbin.htmlKharloth said:1.http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/30/bernall/ fine then, news article.Skullkid4187 said:1. wikipedia. 2. if you were in the shooting would you hear straight? 3. Each claim is differentKharloth said:Read the last paragraph:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassie_BernallSkullkid4187 said:Proof?Kharloth said:The official investigation says that the whole "do you believe in god" question asked by Dylan Klebold never took place.Skullkid4187 said:Then why did Dylan ask?Kharloth said:There is no evidence to support your claim that they were atheist, other than a book about the "martyrdom" of one of the victims written by some evangelical. The whole shooting wasn't about religion, it was that the two shooters were both fucking insane and hated everyone.Skullkid4187 said:The two boys killed Christians. They were both atheist. Read the book "She said Yes"Kharloth said:What. the. fuck. does that have to do with anything?Skullkid4187 said:Ever hear of Columbine?Funkysandwich said:Religion causes more hate than Atheism does.Skullkid4187 said:And every thing everyone has been saying against me isn't?Demented Teddy said:Atheism is not a belief or a way of life.Skullkid4187 said:The Bible is a way to live by and I choose to be a good person. I see atheism hasn't taught you that.Kharloth said:Because it is a more rational way of thinking. Religion forces you to form your ideas around an an ancient book that has no practical use in today's world, it forces you to live in fear, it forces you to accept whatever it says as absolute truth.Skullkid4187 said:I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and angerKharloth said:I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.Skullkid4187 said:The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
Also, you neglected to answer my question.
It is merely not believing that there is a higher deity.
So to say "I see atheism hasn't thought you that" is very ignorant.
For instance, if everyone was Atheist the situation in the middle east at the moment wouldn't exist. There wouldn't have been countless wars over the "holy land" because there wouldn't be anything to fight over.
Think of how many people have killed and been killed in the name of whatever god.
How many people have been killed in the name of atheism?
None.
2. But somehow people heard the question during the shooting?
3. Proof?
Brilliant.Jinjiro said:Religion vs Atheism, again? Really?! Fine, I'll bite.
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That quote sums up the folly of religion for me, but it still annoys me to see aggressive atheists jump on religious types like wolves on a wounded caribou. People these days are more worried about who is right, when WHAT is right is infinitely more important. Eventually everyone is going to die, and that's going to be the point where they get proved wrong/right about their religion (or lack of it). Until then, stop demanding that someone interprets the universe the same way you do.
Fuck yeah!keyLIMEpiez said:To give me hope, first the entire middle east region is destroyed, next people decide to drop racism all together as opposed to now where we have revenge on white people, next people get some fucking common sense and think for themselves, then extremists of any form die horribly,and finally every politician dies and are replaced with people who actually worked a fucking day in their lives.
Destroying an entire region just because there has been a large amount of conflict there is no solution. What we should do is turn the holy cites into independent cite-states, like the Vatican city and have each area governed by it's own government. Give them representation in the UN and make sure the citizen's rights are upheld, and at least part of the problem will be taken away.keyLIMEpiez said:To give me hope, first the entire middle east region is destroyed, next people decide to drop racism all together as opposed to now where we have revenge on white people, next people get some fucking common sense and think for themselves, then extremists of any form die horribly,and finally every politician dies and are replaced with people who actually worked a fucking day in their lives.
It's mainly the way they go about expressing their beliefs that gets to us. Still, sometimes it's not justified, but most Christians will never accept an Atheists point of view.Korten12 said:I didn't want to either, I honestly hate the whole idea of a religion flamewar, it pains me inside deeply.InnerRebellion said:but I don't want to get involved in the religion flaming.
But while it is a two way road, Skull said his personal belief and some Athiests on here couldn't stand it, so its Skull is more innocent then anyone, becuase for the most part if an Athiest said something like "Evolution gives me hope in humanity." No one would say anything, but as soon as a christans says something about his beliefs, some Athiests go up in arms.
There is no such thing as "darwinism" it's a term that creationists made up.00jimbop said:My only hope for humanity is that darwinism will kick in again so we can finally advance as a species.
I, as an atheist and a hopeful biologist, must be honest and say no.Skullkid4187 said:Do you believe in science 100%? Evolution?Kharloth said:Atheism is not a belief, it is the lack of belief, learn that.Skullkid4187 said:haha! You do the same, you blindly believe that all the stuff about atheism.Kharloth said:How am I not a good person? Because of my personal feelings about religion? Because I choose to not blindly accept what I am told to accept?Skullkid4187 said:The Bible is a way to live by and I choose to be a good person. I see atheism hasn't taught you that.Kharloth said:Because it is a more rational way of thinking. Religion forces you to form your ideas around an an ancient book that has no practical use in today's world, it forces you to live in fear, it forces you to accept whatever it says as absolute truth.Skullkid4187 said:I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and angerKharloth said:I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.Skullkid4187 said:The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
Also, you neglected to answer my question.
Atheism has no core "book", no core set of laws, no set rules on what a person should think. My beliefs are my own, not those ordered to me someone.
That is what the intelligent species said before us when they killed the dinosaurs.ww666 said:I see so many shit happening now a days that I find hard to have any hope for humanity, but if there is anything for me to hope is people to realize that if we wanna keep living here on Earth
we need to stop thinking like "Find a balance between human and nature".
We are going to need some sacrifices if we are to keep Earth or humanity alive for a couple hundred years.
You're assuming I mean tech support type stuff. No, I'm a cashier. Generally, they're not getting screwed over, sure as hell not as badly as I am. Half the time they're getting pissed off at me because they can figure out the fucking debit machine, which is pretty damn simple if they take the second of two it takes to fucking read what's on it. Either that or something costs 50 cents more than they thought, I page for someone to call me so I can get them to check it. They take their sweet time calling me, even before they have to find the thing. And, once again, even though none of this is my fault the customer gets pissed off at me, because I'm convenient. So yeah, I don't have much hope for a species that claims to be so above basic animalistic tendencies, and then vents it's rage at the most convenient person, and gets so royally pissed off about things that aren't a big deal. If they didn't have much money, I could understand the 50 cents being a big deal. But it's usually the people who you can tell just by looking at them are loaded. And it doesn't help that management ties our hands whenever they fucking can either, because then we need to wait around for someone with more authority to come do something we should be allowed to do ourselves.Demented Teddy said:Customer service is frustrating for the customers.Cain_Zeros said:Or work in customer service and are treated like shit on a daily basis for no other reason then because they're there. I work with people all the time, and I spend time with friends when I can. I'm not isolated, and as I said, there are some people that I don't think of as selfish, self-destructive bastards. And I actually don't count myself among that some.Demented Teddy said:Misanthropy is usually caused due to isolation from other people.Cain_Zeros said:The species as a whole is fucked. We're a bunch of selfish, self-destructive bastards.
That means misanthropes don't experience the good sides of humanity which greatly out-number the negatives of our race.
Something is broke = annoying.
The people they ring don't seem to give a shit and will most likely do nothing for you = annoying.
or
They've had to do loads of shit "ring this person" "wait X days" "let me connect you hear" "you are currently on hold" etc.
So I'm sure you must understand why the customers will take out their frustrations on someone working for the organisation that has been screwing them over.
For example, my first Xbox 360 broke.
My brother rang the customer service thing, some foriegner answers, after a while he gets told that they'll send him a thing to put my Xbox in and send it away to be fixed.
Nothing ever arrived.