What ACTUALLY gives you hope for humanity?

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Normalgamer

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Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
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The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger
Crusades, 9/11, Iraq, circumsicion, almost every war ever, witches, lack of stem cell research, prop 8. Okay I'm done.
OT: I enjoy humanity, I enjoy being human, yes we have flaws but we make up for those flaws by the good of the majority/minority, sure, some of us are douches, but even if just one person is good, then humanity is still worth hoping for in my opinion.
 

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Korten12 said:
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Think of how many people have killed and been killed in the name of whatever god.

How many people have been killed in the name of atheism?
None.
Ever hear of Columbine?
What.

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On a related note: dammit, why did this thread have to become a religious flamewar?...
Becuase a christian said his personal belief and every Athiest needs to attack.
What? I'm an atheist, and sure that kid is bothering me a little, but every person is entitled to their beliefs.
Sorry, I should have been some Athiests, I know some Athiests here are very nice people but there are a lot of them that can't stand anyone religious.
Yes, but many religious people can't stand us either. Two way street there, but I don't want to get involved in the religion flaming.
Edit: Damn, ninja'd by Teddy. Teddy, if you read this, you scare me...in a good way.
 

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Normalgamer said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger
Crusades, 9/11, Iraq, circumsicion, almost every war ever, witches, lack of stem cell research, prop 8. Okay I'm done.
OT: I enjoy humanity, I enjoy being human, yes we have flaws but we make up for those flaws by the good of the majority/minority, sure, some of us are douches, but even if just one person is good, then humanity is still worth hoping for in my opinion.
Sorry I have believes :) And 9/11 was not a religious attack nor Iraq. The Crusades, Salem Witch Trails, lack of stems cells are all justified. And my question was never answered
 

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Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Funkysandwich said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Demented Teddy said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger
Because it is a more rational way of thinking. Religion forces you to form your ideas around an an ancient book that has no practical use in today's world, it forces you to live in fear, it forces you to accept whatever it says as absolute truth.

Also, you neglected to answer my question.
The Bible is a way to live by and I choose to be a good person. I see atheism hasn't taught you that.
Atheism is not a belief or a way of life.
It is merely not believing that there is a higher deity.
So to say "I see atheism hasn't thought you that" is very ignorant.
And every thing everyone has been saying against me isn't?
Religion causes more hate than Atheism does.

For instance, if everyone was Atheist the situation in the middle east at the moment wouldn't exist. There wouldn't have been countless wars over the "holy land" because there wouldn't be anything to fight over.

Think of how many people have killed and been killed in the name of whatever god.

How many people have been killed in the name of atheism?
None.
Ever hear of Columbine?
What. the. fuck. does that have to do with anything?
The two boys killed Christians. They were both atheist. Read the book "She said Yes"
There is no evidence to support your claim that they were atheist, other than a book about the "martyrdom" of one of the victims written by some evangelical. The whole shooting wasn't about religion, it was that the two shooters were both fucking insane and hated everyone.
Then why did Dylan ask?
 

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InnerRebellion said:
but I don't want to get involved in the religion flaming.
I didn't want to either, I honestly hate the whole idea of a religion flamewar, it pains me inside deeply.

But while it is a two way road, Skull said his personal belief and some Athiests on here couldn't stand it, so its Skull is more innocent then anyone, becuase for the most part if an Athiest said something like "Evolution gives me hope in humanity." No one would say anything, but as soon as a christans says something about his beliefs, some Athiests go up in arms.
 

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Skullkid4187 said:
Normalgamer said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger
Crusades, 9/11, Iraq, circumsicion, almost every war ever, witches, lack of stem cell research, prop 8. Okay I'm done.
OT: I enjoy humanity, I enjoy being human, yes we have flaws but we make up for those flaws by the good of the majority/minority, sure, some of us are douches, but even if just one person is good, then humanity is still worth hoping for in my opinion.
Sorry I have believes :) And 9/11 was not a religious attack nor Iraq. The Crusades, Salem Witch Trails, lack of stems cells are all justified. And my question was never answered
...-twitch-...No, I'm not gonna get trolled. The fact you said the Crusades were justified sickens me.

OT: Oh, and I also forgot, overall as species we have evolved and adapted, in almost all aspects, morally, and mentally. Which is awesome.
 

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Normalgamer said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Normalgamer said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger
Crusades, 9/11, Iraq, circumsicion, almost every war ever, witches, lack of stem cell research, prop 8. Okay I'm done.
OT: I enjoy humanity, I enjoy being human, yes we have flaws but we make up for those flaws by the good of the majority/minority, sure, some of us are douches, but even if just one person is good, then humanity is still worth hoping for in my opinion.
Sorry I have believes :) And 9/11 was not a religious attack nor Iraq. The Crusades, Salem Witch Trails, lack of stems cells are all justified. And my question was never answered
...-twitch-...No, I'm not gonna get trolled. The fact you said the Crusades were justified sickens me.

OT: Oh, and I also forgot, overall as species we have evolved and adapted, in almost all aspects, morally, and mentally. Which is awesome.
It's called dying for something you believe in. That city is holy. You just don't understand.
 

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Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Funkysandwich said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Demented Teddy said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger
Because it is a more rational way of thinking. Religion forces you to form your ideas around an an ancient book that has no practical use in today's world, it forces you to live in fear, it forces you to accept whatever it says as absolute truth.

Also, you neglected to answer my question.
The Bible is a way to live by and I choose to be a good person. I see atheism hasn't taught you that.
Atheism is not a belief or a way of life.
It is merely not believing that there is a higher deity.
So to say "I see atheism hasn't thought you that" is very ignorant.
And every thing everyone has been saying against me isn't?
Religion causes more hate than Atheism does.

For instance, if everyone was Atheist the situation in the middle east at the moment wouldn't exist. There wouldn't have been countless wars over the "holy land" because there wouldn't be anything to fight over.

Think of how many people have killed and been killed in the name of whatever god.

How many people have been killed in the name of atheism?
None.
Ever hear of Columbine?
What. the. fuck. does that have to do with anything?
The two boys killed Christians. They were both atheist. Read the book "She said Yes"
There is no evidence to support your claim that they were atheist, other than a book about the "martyrdom" of one of the victims written by some evangelical. The whole shooting wasn't about religion, it was that the two shooters were both fucking insane and hated everyone.
Then why did Dylan ask?
The official investigation says that the whole "do you believe in god" question asked by Dylan Klebold never took place.
Proof?
 

Normalgamer

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Skullkid4187 said:
Normalgamer said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Normalgamer said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger
Crusades, 9/11, Iraq, circumsicion, almost every war ever, witches, lack of stem cell research, prop 8. Okay I'm done.
OT: I enjoy humanity, I enjoy being human, yes we have flaws but we make up for those flaws by the good of the majority/minority, sure, some of us are douches, but even if just one person is good, then humanity is still worth hoping for in my opinion.
Sorry I have believes :) And 9/11 was not a religious attack nor Iraq. The Crusades, Salem Witch Trails, lack of stems cells are all justified. And my question was never answered
...-twitch-...No, I'm not gonna get trolled. The fact you said the Crusades were justified sickens me.

OT: Oh, and I also forgot, overall as species we have evolved and adapted, in almost all aspects, morally, and mentally. Which is awesome.
It's called dying for something you believe in. That city is holy. You just don't understand.
I don't understand? I was religious for more then half my current lifetime, 2/3 even. I don't think you understand how the crusades worked, and how children died due to being "Unclean". But I will admit, your good at egging on a response. I usually can ignore people that say insulting things.
 

Jinjiro

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Religion vs Atheism, again? Really?! Fine, I'll bite.



That quote sums up the folly of religion for me, but it still annoys me to see aggressive atheists jump on religious types like wolves on a wounded caribou. People these days are more worried about who is right, when WHAT is right is infinitely more important. Eventually everyone is going to die, and that's going to be the point where they get proved wrong/right about their religion (or lack of it). Until then, stop demanding that someone interprets the universe the same way you do.
 

elilupe

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People like John Lennon and Michael Stipe. They are great artists who try to get messages of peace and harmony around the world.
 

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Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Funkysandwich said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Demented Teddy said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger
Because it is a more rational way of thinking. Religion forces you to form your ideas around an an ancient book that has no practical use in today's world, it forces you to live in fear, it forces you to accept whatever it says as absolute truth.

Also, you neglected to answer my question.
The Bible is a way to live by and I choose to be a good person. I see atheism hasn't taught you that.
Atheism is not a belief or a way of life.
It is merely not believing that there is a higher deity.
So to say "I see atheism hasn't thought you that" is very ignorant.
And every thing everyone has been saying against me isn't?
Religion causes more hate than Atheism does.

For instance, if everyone was Atheist the situation in the middle east at the moment wouldn't exist. There wouldn't have been countless wars over the "holy land" because there wouldn't be anything to fight over.

Think of how many people have killed and been killed in the name of whatever god.

How many people have been killed in the name of atheism?
None.
Ever hear of Columbine?
What. the. fuck. does that have to do with anything?
The two boys killed Christians. They were both atheist. Read the book "She said Yes"
There is no evidence to support your claim that they were atheist, other than a book about the "martyrdom" of one of the victims written by some evangelical. The whole shooting wasn't about religion, it was that the two shooters were both fucking insane and hated everyone.
Then why did Dylan ask?
The official investigation says that the whole "do you believe in god" question asked by Dylan Klebold never took place.
Proof?
Read the last paragraph:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassie_Bernall
1. wikipedia. 2. if you were in the shooting would you hear straight? 3. Each claim is different