What ACTUALLY gives you hope for humanity?

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Choclate covered bacon.


Honestly though, it's the human trait of creativity. We can find our way out of anything.
GAH, my heart, it pains.

More on Topic: Really I don't know what would at this point, I mean if you look at the history of human-kind it's surprising that there aren't more cynics in the world.
 

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Remember kids, When a small percent of Religious people are condescending and stupid, we should destroy all religion.

But when a atheist is condescending and stupid, it is perfectly fine.
BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THATS SO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD

CANT STOP LAUGHING!!!!!!!!
 

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Levitas1234 said:
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The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
The opposite of this. The fact that more and more people openly reject religion and its trappings. There is a long way to go, but its happening.

Every person who decides faith is not enough gives me hope for our species.
That is so ironic
Seems to me the troll is back

No it's not, it's just self contradicting.
(quit trying to make yourself look edgy, hipster.)
 

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I'm not sure. It may be all this shiny technology - communications, medicine, synthetic materials, videogames after all. Compare it to, oh say, the Middle Ages and see how far we've come. It may be the fact that there are humanitarian organizations eager to help those in need "just because". It may be the ever-growing literacy. I'm not really sure.

The point is: you can't judge entire humanity based on a few sick bastards. Declaring the entirety of a HUGE group "always chaotic evil" based on one or a few members is a logical fallacy if there ever was one. Not all religious people are zealots, not all republicans are rednecks, not all Germans are Nazis - and we know that. Remember also that for each murderous psychopath, there's usually an upstanding friend-to-all-living-things. Just google "Albert Schweitzer", you'll see what i mean.

Therumancer said:
Sorry about yet another very long post. Not sure how many will read it.
I've fully read it, and i agree with you entirely. The only way our civilization can truly end is if it forgets all the positive things we've did. Or, you know, if an asteroid hits the planet square in the Florida like it already did once.
 

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Kharloth said:
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The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger
Because it is a more rational way of thinking. Religion forces you to form your ideas around an an ancient book that has no practical use in today's world, it forces you to live in fear, it forces you to accept whatever it says as absolute truth.

Also, you neglected to answer my question.
The Bible is a way to live by and I choose to be a good person. I see atheism hasn't taught you that.
How am I not a good person? Because of my personal feelings about religion? Because I choose to not blindly accept what I am told to accept?
haha! You do the same, you blindly believe that all the stuff about atheism.
 

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Levitas1234 said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Darwins_Folly said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
The opposite of this. The fact that more and more people openly reject religion and its trappings. There is a long way to go, but its happening.

Every person who decides faith is not enough gives me hope for our species.
That is so ironic
No it's not, it's just self contradicting.
(quit trying to make yourself look edgy, hipster.)
I'd very much like to know who that is self-contradictory, seems pretty consistent from where I'm sitting.
 

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Skullkid4187 said:
The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
I like this comment. I was beginning to think i was the only Christian on the site.

AngryMongoose said:
Well, no dictators have yet successfully taken over the earth.
Also the number of athiests around is increasing, which suggests some kind of rational progress.
This makes me lose hope :( except for the fact that i can prove the existence of God via science, and this is really a cultural failing that is preventing pepole from see the obvious truth. For example the
Our very existence is proof of some being, the detail and constancy is proof of some desighn, the fact that we hold on to hope is proof that there is something to hope for. Read Aquinas, Lewis and the like and you will come to understand why god exists, and why he loves us.

Also the number of atheists world wide is not really increasing, in fact if you compare it to the number of Christans and Muslims, it is very small, in addition atheists tend not to have kids, and if they do they only have 1 or 2 which is not enough to sustain a population so atheism is in a steady decline in the long run, if anything else because of the lack of atheist children! The reason i think there are more atheists is because we no longer have any real national forum for religious debate, to be honest i think this is something that should be encouraged to talk about in schools (the existence of God and the teachings of Philosophers form Lewis to Christ to Mahmud to Sartre should be talked about in school, i know i have been exposed to all of these in private school and it allows for a wider thought base and an answer proven by John Paul Sartre himself and that is the existence of god).
 

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His religion is not a joke to all atheists. I myself am atheist but I don't laugh at my Mom and Grandparents. They are Christian and we have religious discussions without it devolving into a shouting match.
OT: Valve and Bioware give me hope.
I'm glad you said that, because I wanted to say something a bit less nice, along the lines of being an atheist doesn't require you to become an intolerant asshat.

OT: Over the years I've come to believe that the world is about balance; and so when I watch the news and see all the awful people doing all the awful things, and read the forums where people crow about how they're misanthropes and the world is shit, I remember that for every idiot out there, there is someone kind and caring. That there are people who have dedicated their lives to helping others, you just don't get to hear about them as often because happiness isn't as entertaining as suffering.

Basically this:

Slenn said:
That there are actually people who think of humans in both a positive and negative light. I honestly think it's not good to think in either viewpoint entirely.

As well as the fact that there are a lot of people here on this planet that are good and well. And some of them will also fight for that goodness.

"It is well within our power to destroy our civilization and perhaps our species as well. If we capitulate to superstition, greed, or stupidity, we can plunge our world into a darkness deeper than the time between the collapse of classic civilization and the Italian Renaissance. But we are also capable of using our compassion and our intelligence, our technology and our wealth, to make abundant and meaningful life for every inhabitant on this planet, to enhance our enormously our understanding of the universe and to carry us to the stars." - Carl Sagan.
Well said.
 

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Demented Teddy said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger
Because it is a more rational way of thinking. Religion forces you to form your ideas around an an ancient book that has no practical use in today's world, it forces you to live in fear, it forces you to accept whatever it says as absolute truth.

Also, you neglected to answer my question.
The Bible is a way to live by and I choose to be a good person. I see atheism hasn't taught you that.
Atheism is not a belief or a way of life.
It is merely not believing that there is a higher deity.
So to say "I see atheism hasn't thought you that" is very ignorant.
And every thing everyone has been saying against me isn't?
 

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Hope for the inevitable nuclear war.

Why you ask?

Good question I would say.

Mainly because after [Enter two separate arbitrary countries here] blow up the world. Aliens won't want it anymore and we can live out our lives under the guise of Fallout 3.
 

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Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger
Because it is a more rational way of thinking. Religion forces you to form your ideas around an an ancient book that has no practical use in today's world, it forces you to live in fear, it forces you to accept whatever it says as absolute truth.

Also, you neglected to answer my question.
The Bible is a way to live by and I choose to be a good person. I see atheism hasn't taught you that.
How am I not a good person? Because of my personal feelings about religion? Because I choose to not blindly accept what I am told to accept?
haha! You do the same, you blindly believe that all the stuff about atheism.
Atheism is not a belief, it is the lack of belief, learn that.

Atheism has no core "book", no core set of laws, no set rules on what a person should think. My beliefs are my own, not those ordered to me someone.
Do you believe in science 100%? Evolution?
 

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kickyourass said:
Levitas1234 said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Darwins_Folly said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
The opposite of this. The fact that more and more people openly reject religion and its trappings. There is a long way to go, but its happening.

Every person who decides faith is not enough gives me hope for our species.
That is so ironic
No it's not, it's just self contradicting.
(quit trying to make yourself look edgy, hipster.)
I'd very much like to know who that is self-contradictory, seems pretty consistent from where I'm sitting.
because hope is faith, gaining faith out of the loss of faith is self contradicting.



Also, I believe skullkid has gone mad. Christianity is responsible for everything wrong with our society, if we reverted back to it being the religion amongst all common folk, it would be the dark ages all over again.
Unless that's what skullkid is hoping for...
 

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Demented Teddy said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Demented Teddy said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
Kharloth said:
Skullkid4187 said:
The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.
I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.
I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger
Because it is a more rational way of thinking. Religion forces you to form your ideas around an an ancient book that has no practical use in today's world, it forces you to live in fear, it forces you to accept whatever it says as absolute truth.

Also, you neglected to answer my question.
The Bible is a way to live by and I choose to be a good person. I see atheism hasn't taught you that.
Atheism is not a belief or a way of life.
It is merely not believing that there is a higher deity.
So to say "I see atheism hasn't thought you that" is very ignorant.
And every thing everyone has been saying against me isn't?
I've seen your posts.
I've no problem with you being a theist however you do often (You first post in this thread being an exception) give off the vibe that you think you are superior to atheists just because you are a theist.
I'm just saying making fun of someone's religion isn't a joke. But people here need some manners
 

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When your small, average everyman does somthing extraordinary. Like when a bystander helps the firefighters rescue a kid from a burning building, when a strangers helps another who is being robbed. When people find the courage to do something they would never otherwise do. THAT is what gives me hope in humanity.