What have you lived by your entire life?

[bobknowsall]

And we're talking proper, dictator-upholding, Social-Darwinism-endorsing fascism here? Well, to each their own, I guess.

Meh, why is everyone hard on the Fascist? If we could just get it to work without it being related to terrible war crimes then everyone would love it. Not that it's happening any time soon, but still. (Just think! A world without idiot politicians!)


Try to be nice. Try to be tolerant. If you fail then who could blame you?

Dude, I described fascism in the nicest terms possible.

Sure, fascism might work in theory, but so does communism. Both are nearly impossible to implement in real life for differing reasons, which are (understandably) related to human error.

I won't be tolerant of a group whose principles I disagree with, mate. Fascist movements have never been responsible for positive social change, because a combination of deep-seated nationalism and military authoritariansm results in xenophobes being given guns. And that will always end poorly.

 

[NEVRINx54]

"Think slow, act fast." -BUSTER KEATON

 

[BlackIceWater]

Kill or Be killed." They said the world was divided into those folks who ran away from danger, and those who ran toward it. It was funny how you could overcome that instinct to get the hell out if you were trained hard enough".

 

[Darth Rahu]

Great things are born from great struggle

 

[bobknowsall]

I am not american.
I am Irish.

Ah Christ, that just ruined my day. I was kinda hoping the Irish contingent on this site didn't hold views like that. Ah well, at least we don't have other politically extreme philosophies knocking about.

So you hold the Americans in enough contempt that you can easily asume one of them supports something you oppose?
Sounds like bigotry to me.

A fascist lecturing me on bigotry? That is pretty ironic, considering the tenets of fascism.

No, I do not hold the Americans in contempt. But the US has always been a haven for political extremists, since they tend to be less harsh on the politically extreme.

The majority are fools.
It may take a while but it is possible to convince them that it is the best way.
Youth is not a good enough reason to dismiss someone's ideology by the way.

Aha, I smell a non-comformist. You are not of superhuman intelligence, buddy. In order to convince people that fascism works, you'd basically have to find a man with the wisdom and morals of a god, then put him in control of a country. One human cannot be put in control of a country. It's an idea that has never worked.

Youth is a time where people experiment with different worldviews and ideologies. I held some pretty extreme views a while back, but I then realized that they wouldn't actually work in reality. They sounded wonderful, but adding other people into the mix would have screwed them up. The reason communism and fascism do not work is because humans are unpredictable, annd in large groups they can behave stupidly. These two qualities mean that you cannot run a government where everyone needs to behave in an intelligent or obedient manner.

 

[nerdsamwich]

Seeing as both my personality and way of living have changed almost drastically over the years, all I can think of is "Don't take the Lord's name in vain"

That's about it, although nowadays I tend to be much kinder and such.

Do you know what said name is?
OT: A large mountain range.

 

[Standby]

Since the age of 16 I've lived by Fascist ideals.

And how's that going for you?

Good actually.
Seeing as I rarely have to use them outside political situations.

And we're talking proper, dictator-upholding, Social-Darwinism-endorsing fascism here? Well, to each their own, I guess.

Meh, why is everyone hard on the Fascist? If we could just get it to work without it being related to terrible war crimes then everyone would love it. Not that it's happening any time soon, but still. (Just think! A world without idiot politicians!)


Try to be nice. Try to be tolerant. If you fail then who could blame you?

Thank you.
It's nice to see someone not blinded by what happened in the 40s

So when you talk about Fascism, what parts of it do you follow exactly?

I'm going to go ahead and assume you ignore the whole Social-Darwinism part.

 

[TheNumber1Zero]

Do you know what said name is?

Why yes I do, thank you for asking.

 

[bobknowsall]

That was what happened in the 40s.
Modern Fascism is different.

Modern Fascism barely exists. The fact that the National Socialist Party screwed up a long time ago is not relevant; they still screwed up. They gave power to someone who was unable to handle it, and the same thing would happen today. Not the genocide, mind, but the other screw-ups that were caused by Nazi-run Germany.

 

[wwjdftw]

I am not american.
I am Irish.

Ah Christ, that just ruined my day. I was kinda hoping the Irish contingent on this site didn't hold views like that. Ah well, at least we don't have other politically extreme philosophies knocking about.

So you hold the Americans in enough contempt that you can easily asume one of them supports something you oppose?
Sounds like bigotry to me.

Also, never say never, our day may come again, after all there are lots of tricks for destroying democracy, even using it against itself.

Dude, you are aware that the Irish would revolt if you tried to bring a dictator to power? Remember how the English tried to whole "absolute control" policy? If you do, then perhaps you'll recall the results? You seem fairly young, so maybe the idea of fascism in Ireland will make less sense when you have to think about all that it entails.

The majority are fools.
It may take a while but it is possible to convince them that it is the best way.
Youth is not a good enough reason to dismiss someone's ideology by the way.

The Downfall of every ideology is that people think that it is perfect, or that it is the best.

 

[SMILEYkyle21]

life's a *****, make it yours

 

[nerdsamwich]

Do you know what said name is?

Why yes I do, thank you for asking.

You're welcome. I sure don't. I'm pretty sure even the Hebrews forgot it for fear of "taking it in vain."

 

[Just Pman]

Never judge somebody right away and if that doesn't work just do what ever would be really funny.

And never freak out about something because people have had it worse.

 

[Fr331anc3r]

The Basic Laws of Thermodynamics, my life is governed by these, not only in the physical sense but also in the psychological sense.

 

[Guitar Gamer]

I have little to no pride so I find other things to have at the end of it all.
You know, family, real; good friends.
A thing to live by?
I guess so far it's "If you can't get what you want, want what you already have"
To me that means that you can't expect to live without compromise, no person is Rorschach

 

[bobknowsall]

Since the age of 16 I've lived by Fascist ideals.

And how's that going for you?

Good actually.
Seeing as I rarely have to use them outside political situations.

And we're talking proper, dictator-upholding, Social-Darwinism-endorsing fascism here? Well, to each their own, I guess.

Meh, why is everyone hard on the Fascist? If we could just get it to work without it being related to terrible war crimes then everyone would love it. Not that it's happening any time soon, but still. (Just think! A world without idiot politicians!)


Try to be nice. Try to be tolerant. If you fail then who could blame you?

Thank you.
It's nice to see someone not blinded by what happened in the 40s

So when you talk about Fascism, what parts of it do you follow exactly?

I'm going to go ahead and assume you ignore the whole Social-Darwinism part.

This video explains fascism far better then I can

That was what happened in the 40s.
Modern Fascism is different.

Modern Fascism barely exists. The fact that the National Socialist Party screwed up a long time ago is not relevant; they still screwed up. They gave power to someone who was unable to handle it, and the same thing would happen today. Not the genocide, mind, but the other screw-ups that were caused by Nazi-run Germany.

You should watch it too.

There's nothing there I haven't already read about. I do dabble in the study of politics occasionally.

I don't dislike fascism because the Nazis are associated with it; I dislike it because it is not a sound idea for a government in any country. You cannot trust a single individual with control of a whole country, regardless of how many advisors he might have. People are flawed, and you cannot have a perfect political system if it is in the hands of an imperfect being. If you find that perfect being, I am all for fascism. Until then, I'm sticking with what we've got. It's not perfect either, but at least it won't cause civil war or rebellion.

EDIT: Ninja'd for a very important typo.

 

[feather240]

And we're talking proper, dictator-upholding, Social-Darwinism-endorsing fascism here? Well, to each their own, I guess.

Meh, why is everyone hard on the Fascist? If we could just get it to work without it being related to terrible war crimes then everyone would love it. Not that it's happening any time soon, but still. (Just think! A world without idiot politicians!)


Try to be nice. Try to be tolerant. If you fail then who could blame you?

Dude, I described fascism in the nicest terms possible.

Sure, fascism might work in theory, but so does communism. Both are nearly impossible to implement in real life for differing reasons, which are (understandably) related to human error.

I won't be tolerant of a group whose principles I disagree with, mate. Fascist movements have never been responsible for positive social change, because a combination of deep-seated nationalism and military authoritariansm results in xenophobes being given guns. And that will always end poorly.

Oh, that second part was completely separate. I think you're nice and tolerant. I agree with you for the most part too.