Quaidis said:
Ahhh, I knew I was going to get called out on that one. Yes, I know there are females in the story. But in actuality how many do you fight with? How many of these women are in your party and actively battling with you? Compare that to how many male characters you fight with. The only playable woman in the entire game is Mulan. I'm not saying that women didn't have some part in the story, but you never get to know them and, exception to one, you never get to fight with them.
This is true, as to how many fight by your side? Tifa and Yuffie both have sequences in which they activly fight by your side, though not as part of the Party. But keep in mind this is less a flaw with the game as it would be with the whole damn Concept. How many female disney leads ARE Warriors? Mulan is and who else? this is an honest question here because the majority of them are not fighters and would be dumb along side fighters. So thats inherently going to happen JUST from the premise of the game
How could you deny that anyone wearing black or titled a 'nobody' and given a robe were not immediately shot dead and that the entire plot, outside of amnesia, revolved around how no one wanted them around? How the main black-clothed 'nobodies' try to give themselves a reason to live, try to find a reason to strive in this world, and your main purpose is to snuff them out? This is even something you accomplish. Mickey Mouse sneaked into their clique and you thought that he suddenly became evil simply through wearing a black robe and hanging out with the unwanted crowd.
Because Black represents enigma, hell I think your really stretcing it. They were the antagonists! if all of them had been wearing white would you have considered them the Ku Klux Klan?! this is taking a design choice of using black to represent Enigma when all of them (except Xemnas) are WHITE! Keep in mind it wasn't Soras goal to snuff out the organization, they fucked with him. Lord knows why they didn't let him do what he was doing (Kill heartless) remember the first time he saw a Nobody was AFTER he first saw Mickey in the robe, and he didn't think Mickey was evil just apart of the Mysterious Organization. Keep in mind right after that he saw the Organization being gigantic PRICKS to everyone!
I'm sorry I didn't know holding a hostage and trying to kill people were so high on the organizations list of things to prove i'm human. Then consider what Nobodies are. The remnants of beings that have become heartless, Namine was a Nobody and she wore white, Roxas was a Nobody, the original 6 Nobody all betrayed their teacher because they investigated in stealing hearts. They aren't misunderstood they are fucking evil.
The plot revolved around finding Riku and the King as it allways had, it was about combating the heartless and then these chuckle fucks pop in and A. try to kill you and B. kidnap your friends!
And don't worry, I'm not including any other KH games. I'm not one of those people that hate an entire series due to one game. This is completely singling out KH2. I liked KH1, and believe it had more character and thought put into it than 2. In fact, I liked the Hundred Acre Woods thing in the first game. It was pleasant. Haven't played the others yet and hold nothing against them.
well congratulations the DS game will have you in control of the organization and the GBA game was the first showing of the organization and their goal THEN was steal Sora's memories then use him against the other half of the organization. The organization was pretty damn black and white when it came to being evil unless your name was Axel who was just a coniving mother fucker who got bowlderdized in KH2
So in short your making a HUGE mountain out of tiny Mole Hills and I think your one of those people who never actually read the Ansem Reports that pretty much show that "Yeah their evil"
MY complaint with KH 2 is why the organization bothered getting involved at all?! I mean this is their goal right
"Kill heartless to restore Kingdom Hearts so we can get hearts" At least on PAPER thats what it was. I get that they don't have hearts or even emotions (they really are Human Shaped Heartless it's just what happened to the body and mind when the heart was taken) but JESUS CHRIST Logic dictates that if you have the same goal as Sora you shouldn't kidnap his friends and try to kill them. It was the STUPIDEST idea ever "hey we want to kill all heartless so lets go antagonize the good guy whos doing just that!" hell they even pretty much realized this when Saix went to Sora "Just keep doing what your doing"
So stupid yes, Supremist or Racist? no. And the Sexisim is inherant from it being from Disney (by the way I am still curious for disney heroines who happen to also be warriors)
Blood_Lined said:
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I'll admit that I was thinking about actually getting Kingdom Hearts, that is UNTIL I learned that you had to play the game with ALL the major Disney characters. I backed up literally when I learned that whinny the Pooh and Donald Duck were main characters. Not interested.
Actually Winnie has allways been the optional Minnie Game world and Donald Duck is surprisingly Badass (Mickie Mouse is the KING badass)
Not to mention that the worlds you play through are mostly comprised of the ones Boys would like, such as Agrabah, Nightmare Before Christmas, Peter Pan if were talking about the first game Tarzan, we get Beast in Hollow bastion, Hercules, yes we do have the retarded oh god I hate this world every now and then (Fuck Atlantis, I know it's optional but FUCK ATLANTIS! Especially in the second game where it's a SINGING MINI GAME!) but you can actually get through the entire game without needing to do any of the crap worlds (Alice in Wonderland isn't so much crap as it is crazy and it's one of the first worlds)