What should be done about stupid people?

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Amnestic

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Define: Stupid.

Or more specifically, how are you going to separate 'stupid' people from 'intelligent' people? Where do you draw the line?

When do your grains of sand become a heap?

Until you make a clear cut distinction that you can all agree on, why bother even discussing it?
 

Aulleas123

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Nothing.

Let them be stupid.

Let people live the way they want to live.

One could replace the word 'stupid' with 'gay' and suddenly everyone is a psychotic fascist bigot. My point is that there are stupid people in this world just as much as there are smart people. In fact, with all of the stupid people gone, the bell curve distribution will shift, making the average folks (mostly: you and me) stupid. Then we'll have this discussion all over again. If the shift happens through education (like it has over the centuries) then that's great, but if people are going to be fascists about it, then fuck that.
 

effilctar

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Amnestic said:
Define: Stupid.

Or more specifically, how are you going to separate 'stupid' people from 'intelligent' people? Where do you draw the line?

When do your grains of sand become a heap?

Until you make a clear cut distinction that you can all agree on, why bother even discussing it?
I should have thought it out better. I meant people who refuse to be educated and refuse to find work
 

Internet Kraken

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effilctar said:
Internet Kraken said:
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Mr Companion said:
Well this is a smug, snobby post if ever I seen one. On the other hand I suggest to ignore them.
If you keep out of their way and work hard they will suffer more than you. And is that not what you really want when it comes right down to it?
We have the right to be snobby towards them. We work hard and make money while they claim off of it. If anything, they should be worshipping us tax payers and licking our boots
No you fucking don't. Being more successful does not automatically make you a better person. Get off your high horse.
When they don't work AT ALL, have no intentions of finding work and are content with getting free money, yes I AM a better person than them
No you're not, and you are proving that you aren't right now with your smug attitude.
The fact is that people who CHOOSE not to work and take money off of the government saying that theyre trying to find work are less than dirt


And your idiotic ideas are worth less than dirt.

Seriously, maybe instead of complaining about these people you should try and find a solution that actually works. Do you know why these people don't work? Do you just assume that all of them are just lazy bastards that have no desire to do anything?

Unless you understand why these people behave the way they do, I don;t think you can come up with a proper solution.
I am not talking about people that have been put out of work or who are not physically or mentally able to work. I am talking about the minority whose actual reason for not working is pure lazyness. This minority want money but do not want to make money, it is these people who I am talking about. It is they who are worthless.
Fixed your quote.

So, you're complaining about an incredibly small amount of people that don't have much of an impact on society?

Do you have some sort of grudge against lazy people? This whole things seems pointless.
 

Julianking93

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If only we had a camp of some kind. One that was aimed to help them concentrate on subjects.

Oh well.
 

effilctar

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Internet Kraken said:
effilctar said:
Internet Kraken said:
effilctar said:
Internet Kraken said:
effilctar said:
Internet Kraken said:
effilctar said:
Mr Companion said:
Well this is a smug, snobby post if ever I seen one. On the other hand I suggest to ignore them.
If you keep out of their way and work hard they will suffer more than you. And is that not what you really want when it comes right down to it?
We have the right to be snobby towards them. We work hard and make money while they claim off of it. If anything, they should be worshipping us tax payers and licking our boots
No you fucking don't. Being more successful does not automatically make you a better person. Get off your high horse.
When they don't work AT ALL, have no intentions of finding work and are content with getting free money, yes I AM a better person than them
No you're not, and you are proving that you aren't right now with your smug attitude.
The fact is that people who CHOOSE not to work and take money off of the government saying that theyre trying to find work are less than dirt


And your idiotic ideas are worth less than dirt.

Seriously, maybe instead of complaining about these people you should try and find a solution that actually works. Do you know why these people don't work? Do you just assume that all of them are just lazy bastards that have no desire to do anything?

Unless you understand why these people behave the way they do, I don;t think you can come up with a proper solution.
I am not talking about people that have been put out of work or who are not physically or mentally able to work. I am talking about the minority whose actual reason for not working is pure lazyness. This minority want money but do not want to make money, it is these people who I am talking about. It is they who are worthless.
Fixed your quote.

So, you're complaining about an incredibly small amount of people that don't have much of an impact on society?

Do you have some sort of grudge against lazy people? This whole things seems pointless.
The thing is, though it is a small percentage that doesn't mean that it isn't still a large number. There are quite literally thousands of them in the UK, with whole parts of certain cities inhabited just by these people. one person might not be that much of a drain, but when theres thousands, the numbers add up rapidly
 

Amnestic

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effilctar said:
Amnestic said:
Define: Stupid.

Or more specifically, how are you going to separate 'stupid' people from 'intelligent' people? Where do you draw the line?

When do your grains of sand become a heap?

Until you make a clear cut distinction that you can all agree on, why bother even discussing it?
I should have thought it out better. I meant people who refuse to be educated and refuse to find work
And so because they make an easily changeable decision you'll forever destroy their life?

Wow, I don't want to go all Godwin on you but by Mjolnir that's stupid.
 

DoctorObviously

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You need to lure these people with what they're interested in to school. But, unless the school gets infinite funds, I don't think that'll really happen.
 

notyouraveragejoe

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grimsprice said:
notyouraveragejoe said:
Proteus214 said:
Mandatory sterilization. Natural selection in the intellectual age should still function. You don't make the cut, your genes get flushed out of the pool.
Pretty good idea because it means we still have the lazy asses to work manual labour and/or fast food joints.

If they're disturbing the classroom then put them in their own class. All of them, just lock them up for the day so they don't piss off the people who actually want to get ahead. Maybe every few months have an exam to check and see whether anybody is actually trying to get out.
this system almost exists in most schools... its called the IB/AP program, smart hardworking people get to go to class with other awesome smart hardworking people. and to be honest it works really well. although it does foster a certain amount of elitism as previously stated... these smart hardworking (i'm not going to say it...) people tend to look down on the other levels of class... stigmatizing them for being stupid or lazy... but oh well. social darwinism for the win.
Ah yes the joys of the IB. Just about to start that. Looking forward to it. Unfortunately it doesn't always work. In some places (I am naturally referring to where I am) Smart Hardworking People get mixed with Stupid Lazy Disruptive Dicks Who Come From Money. And I pick elitism over disruptiveness any day of the week.
 

Sightless Wisdom

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They should be dealt with somehow, the government could just stop paying them, they have to work to live then. THe thing is nothing will be done because human rights essentially give anyone the right to laze about all day and take the governments money...too bad for the people who have to work, and whose money is going through the government and into the lazy, stupid people in society.
 

cartzo

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let them live, just dont let them breed. KIDDING.
i agree with what many people on this thread have said, cut benefits, maybe that way they will emmigrate, and we can fill the gap with harder working influx of immigrants and asylum seekers.
 

Internet Kraken

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effilctar said:
Internet Kraken said:
effilctar said:
Internet Kraken said:
effilctar said:
Internet Kraken said:
effilctar said:
Internet Kraken said:
effilctar said:
Mr Companion said:
Well this is a smug, snobby post if ever I seen one. On the other hand I suggest to ignore them.
If you keep out of their way and work hard they will suffer more than you. And is that not what you really want when it comes right down to it?
We have the right to be snobby towards them. We work hard and make money while they claim off of it. If anything, they should be worshipping us tax payers and licking our boots
No you fucking don't. Being more successful does not automatically make you a better person. Get off your high horse.
When they don't work AT ALL, have no intentions of finding work and are content with getting free money, yes I AM a better person than them
No you're not, and you are proving that you aren't right now with your smug attitude.
The fact is that people who CHOOSE not to work and take money off of the government saying that theyre trying to find work are less than dirt


And your idiotic ideas are worth less than dirt.

Seriously, maybe instead of complaining about these people you should try and find a solution that actually works. Do you know why these people don't work? Do you just assume that all of them are just lazy bastards that have no desire to do anything?

Unless you understand why these people behave the way they do, I don;t think you can come up with a proper solution.
I am not talking about people that have been put out of work or who are not physically or mentally able to work. I am talking about the minority whose actual reason for not working is pure lazyness. This minority want money but do not want to make money, it is these people who I am talking about. It is they who are worthless.
Fixed your quote.

So, you're complaining about an incredibly small amount of people that don't have much of an impact on society?

Do you have some sort of grudge against lazy people? This whole things seems pointless.
The thing is, though it is a small percentage that doesn't mean that it isn't still a large number. There are quite literally thousands of them in the UK, with whole parts of certain cities inhabited just by these people. one person might not be that much of a drain, but when theres thousands, the numbers add up rapidly
I'd like to see your proof of this. I doubt that all of these people are not working just because they are lazy.
 

dubious_wolf

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Proteus214 said:
Mandatory sterilization. Natural selection in the intellectual age should still function. You don't make the cut, your genes get flushed out of the pool.
i agree yes i am an elitist, but it is my right to be one.

Internet Kraken said:
Proteus214 said:
Mandatory sterilization. Natural selection in the intellectual age should still function. You don't make the cut, your genes get flushed out of the pool.
I can't believe people even consider this to be an option.

First of all, genes don't automatically determine if someone is smart or stupid. The education they receive usually has larger impact on their intelligence. Secondly, how the hell do you determine who has to be sterilized? Third, sterilization isn't something you can reverse. If someone you sterilized turns their life around and becomes a productive member of society they will still lack the ability to reproduce. Fourth, you never want to limit genetic diversity.
1st They play a significant part in determining intelligence and cognitive reasoning...
2nd this would be determined depending on crimes committed...
3rd freeze some semen or some eggs...
4th nature thinks differently...
 

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Chances are half of the people suggesting these outlandish punishments for the "crime" of stupidity would be subject to them.

You don't magically become smart once you realize that most people aren't.
 

grimsprice

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notyouraveragejoe said:
Ah yes the joys of the IB. Just about to start that. Looking forward to it. Unfortunately it doesn't always work. In some places (I am naturally referring to where I am) Smart Hardworking People get mixed with Stupid Lazy Disruptive Dicks Who Come From Money. And I pick elitism over disruptiveness any day of the week.
yeah so my question for you is what kind of stupid backwards place do you live in that lets people buy their way into smart classes? don't they have to be... idk... smart? to get into the ... smart.... classes?
 

RAMBO22

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There is only one thing to do with us stupid people.
INCREASE OUR NUMBERS AND WE WILL (in a stupid fashion) rule all