I second this Escapists, Spartacus Blood and Sand is fucking amazing, quite possibly the best show I have ever seen. Ever.imahobbit4062 said:
Whats needed for Sam Raimi's upcoming World of Warcraft movie?
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I hope to god someone assassinates him before he finishes making the film. WoW is a great game, but making a film for it would completely destroy it, I reckon. Blizzard better be guiding him, at least.
OT: Like I said, for Blizzard to 'supervise' him, and make sure they don't completely change the game. And if Blizzard isn't part of the film, it'd be best forhis safety everyone if he didn't try to create more lore.
EDIT: oh, what do we want to see IN it? Uhm... a decent storyline, good characters and good use of the equipment and/or technology that's given to them is the only answer we can give really. Oh, and I wanna see Illidan massacre Horde. Hehehehe.
OT: Like I said, for Blizzard to 'supervise' him, and make sure they don't completely change the game. And if Blizzard isn't part of the film, it'd be best for
EDIT: oh, what do we want to see IN it? Uhm... a decent storyline, good characters and good use of the equipment and/or technology that's given to them is the only answer we can give really. Oh, and I wanna see Illidan massacre Horde. Hehehehe.
Lord of the Rings was already made, so this movie has no reason to exist.
honestly, though. What is the point of turning a game into a movie? They are very different media. A good story for one will not work in the other.
Worse, with that whole cannon business there is no reason to make a game out of a movie or vise versa. This is why Star Wars games can't quite do what they should because you can't kill the Emperor or Darth Vader. That's Luke Skywalker's job. You don't get to do that.
"You don't get to do that," applies to turning a game into a movie as well. You can't have the movie characters kill the Lich King or whatever because that's the players job. This limits what a scriptwriter can do with the movie to the point that they really have nothing to play with.
Of course, this cannon business can simply be ignored and you can just kill Anakin Skywalker in a game if you like. But then you're not in the same world as the movies, are you? Just a parallel fan fiction dimension and the experience is diminished for it.
But the real question is, what does the movie World of Warcraft offer that Lord of the Rings didn't? Fans will probably have all sorts of answers to this which will amount to weak excuses and petty nuance that the general film audience will not care about and rightly so.
So there is no reason for a World of Warcraft movie to exist. So the real question is, why isn't the game itself enjoyable enough? I can understand why the publisher would diversify their property as they are a corporation and their main goal is to make a profit. But why do the fans want this? Do they think it will legitimize the gaming medium? What is it because I do not understand this at all.
honestly, though. What is the point of turning a game into a movie? They are very different media. A good story for one will not work in the other.
Worse, with that whole cannon business there is no reason to make a game out of a movie or vise versa. This is why Star Wars games can't quite do what they should because you can't kill the Emperor or Darth Vader. That's Luke Skywalker's job. You don't get to do that.
"You don't get to do that," applies to turning a game into a movie as well. You can't have the movie characters kill the Lich King or whatever because that's the players job. This limits what a scriptwriter can do with the movie to the point that they really have nothing to play with.
Of course, this cannon business can simply be ignored and you can just kill Anakin Skywalker in a game if you like. But then you're not in the same world as the movies, are you? Just a parallel fan fiction dimension and the experience is diminished for it.
But the real question is, what does the movie World of Warcraft offer that Lord of the Rings didn't? Fans will probably have all sorts of answers to this which will amount to weak excuses and petty nuance that the general film audience will not care about and rightly so.
So there is no reason for a World of Warcraft movie to exist. So the real question is, why isn't the game itself enjoyable enough? I can understand why the publisher would diversify their property as they are a corporation and their main goal is to make a profit. But why do the fans want this? Do they think it will legitimize the gaming medium? What is it because I do not understand this at all.
I reckon it should be about Alterac Valley, or Ulduar. Just simply a single raid on Ulduar or a battle in the Alterac Valley (Not ZOMG RUSH DREK/BELINDA). The AV one would allow some serious contrasting between the Horde and Alliance ^^
yep its scheduled for 2013 so get ready, apparently the only listed actor so far is Mark Hildebrandt as King Varian Wrynn.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0803096/
EDIT: Also found this on IMDB
Thrall will be in the movie. It will be told primarily from the Alliance point of view The time of the movie is set about 1 year before World of Warcraft begins. The film is mainly about cultures in conflict. It won't be an adventure movie like LoTR, more of a war film.
(Source : BlizzCon 2007)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0803096/
EDIT: Also found this on IMDB
Thrall will be in the movie. It will be told primarily from the Alliance point of view The time of the movie is set about 1 year before World of Warcraft begins. The film is mainly about cultures in conflict. It won't be an adventure movie like LoTR, more of a war film.
(Source : BlizzCon 2007)
i was thinking the same thing. when did this happen?!?!IxionIndustries said:
knowing me, i will probably watch it, although i feel that it's going to be absolute cripe.
I'm inclined to mostly agree with the first problem. After the atrocity that was Spiderman 3, and that REALLY cheesy exorcism scene in "Drag me to Hell" I have little to no faith in Raimi. Then again the only time I had any was with the first 2 Spiderman movies.Evil Earlgrey said:
Actually, it is a Warcraft movie. Not a World of Warcraft movie like everyone's been saying.HK_01 said:
I IMDB'd it...it's true. There's also a no name actor slated to play Varian Wrynn and this little gem: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0803096/trivia?tr1076524
I have played neither of those games... No, wait. I did play Oblivion a little. I didn't like it. But that's neither here nor there.imahobbit4062 said:
You comparison is not congruent because Oblivion and Dragon Age are both games, so it does not have the problems of converting from one medium to another the Warcraft movie does.
And I did ask why making a movie is at all important for game players. There are gameplay differences between Dragon Age and Oblivion which could be discussed if that were the topic here.
A movie takes gameplay out of the equation completely, which I guess you could argue makes it different if you want to. And I quote you below that there are things in Warcraft that made for a good story. But here's the thing: as some who has played the game, you have already experienced those stories. While playing the game, were you thinking "boy, this would be a lot better if I were sitting on my butt staring at a movie screen instead of having to push these buttons all the time"?
That's the real question. You've already experienced those stories. Would making it into a movie improve those stories? If so, how?
imahobbit4062 said:
Judging by your forum name, you are a fantasy fan and as such you probably do not realize just how samey Tolkienesque fantasy properties are to the casual observer nor how the nuances that make one property 'vastly different' for you are are uninteresting and mean nothing to everyone else.the_antithesis said:
I understand this is a hard truth to face. But it needs to be faced and understood because making a movie means courting a new audience. An audience that does not care about the differences between a night elf and a regular elf. An audience that will look at the World of Warcraft movie and correctly dismiss it as a Lord of the Rings rip off.
Currently, what makes Warcraft unique is that it is a game that you play. The interactivity is what makes it unique. A movie takes that away. So I'm wondering what's the point of making a movie?
The Warcraft storyline has become so convoluted, retcon'd up, and directionless that it'll be a tough job pulling it together into a coherent form again.Nyce1 said:
Really, they need to go back to the original Warcraft and start picking and choosing what to keep from there.
Need Slyvanas in there. And please put Bruce Campbell on the horde. Make him tauren, or even troll.El_Tordo said:
I'm not the person your post was addressed too but I just have to say. If a viewer can't tell the difference between LotR and Warcraft then, they're just an idiot. The differences between the two are vast. If you can't differentiate it's not just a mtter of the nuances it's a fundemental inability to grasp themes, mood or any form of subtext. The only people who wouldn't be able to tell them apart are not likely to see the film under any circumstances. AAlso direct knock-off films not exist but gain success frequently.the antithesis said: