Whats wrong with todays cartoons?

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bleh002

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Goremocker said:
God I miss the 90's cartoons...back then,cartoonnetwork was full of adult themes and black humor...god those were good shows...Dexter,Courage,Invader zim,Johnny bravo,Grim Billy and Mandy,and soo many more...those were the good days...
Invader Zim started in 2001. And for all those good 90's cartoons, let me mention these two: Hammerman and the New Kids on the Block cartoon.

I remember my childhood cartoons fondly, but I do not want to revisit them. I don't want the memories I have of the original Transformers, G.I. Joe and Thundercats cartoons ruined by watching them and realizing that the animation was atrocious, the voice acting horrid and the plots were nothing more than an excuse to sell more toys.
 

chaos order

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anthony87 said:
Bring back Earthworm Jim!!!!
agreed
bring back reboot i miss megabyte (although tony jay is dead RIP)
bring back animaniancs (wacko was my fav)
bring back batman beyond or even the animated series
bring back the tick
bring back yvon of the yukon
 

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Fox242 said:
They aren't funny, intellegent, creative, or even charming. They are just down right stupid. There aren't any real issues going on withj these shows or even any good conflicts. The story for all these shows is basically the same: idiot lead character has dumb adventures with vastly moronic friend/pet/thing. It's all crap! Where's the good stuff? Even though I'm not a big fan of the 90s, people sure knew how to make good cartoons during those years.

Goremocker said:
God I miss the 90's cartoons...back then,cartoonnetwork was full of adult themes and black humor...god those were good shows...Dexter,Courage,Invader zim,Johnny bravo,Grim Billy and Mandy,and soo many more...those were the good days...
Damn straight friend. I miss all of those cartoons and also ones that were not on that list like Samurai Jack, Rocko's Modern Life, Rugrats, Ren and Stimpy, and Ed, Edd 'n Eddy. Those were the days indeed. There's no way that a show like Johnny Test can hold a candle to Dexter's Laboratory.
While I'm not a fan of Rugrats I could add even more to that list like AHHHH!! Real Monsters, Animaniacs,and Cow and Chicken.I really wanted to add the shows that you said but I'm short on nostalgia time.
 

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There's always the Boondocks...

It's appealing to the new generation of kids. Who have terrible taste. You're going to have to deal with it. Just make sure that when you have kids yourself, you show them good shows. It's the only thing you really can do...
 

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kyosai7 said:
SuperMse said:
"Treat kids like equals! They're people too! They're smarter than you think! They were smart enough to catch me!" -Sideshow Bob.

Not enough cartoons do that anymore. For instance, you want to know how I learned about the The Most Dangerous Game? Johnny Bravo. Granted, there was some shit back when I was a kid, but it was at least better than what kids have now. We had X-Men: The Animated Series, for God's sake! What do they have? This. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFFGK1qysYs]
Hey, I like the Super Hero Squad Show! It's a funny and satirical look at the Marvel Universe and has made me laugh a good number of times!

Also, As cool as the X-Men Animated Series was, I find myself preferring X-Men: Evolution a bit more, for the good fights scenes and good plots. Hated Batman:TAS, couldn't get into it, but I really like Batman Beyond... I need to find a copy of Return of the Joker uncut someday..
I thought someone might respond this way. Super Hero Squad isn't all bad, and there are occasional fun silver-age references or clever set pieces, telling by the 3 or so episodes I've watched, but it's indicative of a larger problem stemming from the way society treats children. It takes the characters of the Marvel Universe and strips them down to their most basic elements in order to make them easy to understand. It doesn't tackle big themes in the way the Spider-Man or Batman animated series did (I love Batman: TAS, sorry), and jams as many characters as possible into the show, even when they serve no purpose. It oversimplifies and pretty much just becomes bright colors on the screen, with absolutely no deeper meaning. I think the writers do the best with what they're given, but even judging from the art style, this thing is just meant to be a marketing bonanza in order to sell toys, similar to the Schumacher Batman movies. It's a commercial, not entertainment.

But yes, get your hands on a copy of Return of the Joker A.S.A.P.
 

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RatRace123 said:
Furburt said:
It's because they look down to children, not up. The old days had plenty of things children wouldn't get, but they kept them in anyway, and they were better for it.

Nowadays, everything is totally tailored to make sure that nothing that's too advanced for the kiddies gets in. Fuck that. How else are you going to learn?
I second this, todays cartoons are stupider. Just for kids, and not for adults, unlike back in the good old days of the sharp writing of the 90s. I'm not sure whether it's the kids or the cartoons themselves, but they're getting dumber. I don't think we'll ever see anything quite like this again

Oh my god a tear of nostalgia actually came from my eye i miss this show that much i wish i was older when i watched it so i could fully value the genius of that show
 

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The best cartoons are made for kids but had nods to the adults might be watching, they never pandered. Every generation had great cartoons and horrible ones.

The old school bugs bunny cartoons, hell had borderline racist things in them and other adult themes. Many of which have been edited down or removed for modern days since they pushed some buttons people do not like pushed.

Animaniacs was great.

Ren and stimpy ftw could not believe when that got on nickolodean back in the day.

Courage the cowardly dog was great.

Billy and mandy was downright epic at times. my 50 year old uncle even loved that show.

But your always going to have to sift through the lowest common garbage to find the real gems of any cartoon generation.
 

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Irridium said:
A big part of me wants to say its because of Nostalgia.
Nothing will compare with watching old cartoons with the wonder of a child.

Granted since they replaced the great cartoons of the past with things like "CN Real" and Cartoon Cartoon Fridays with that fried piece of shit known as "Fried Dynamite", I'm not so sure.

One things for sure though, cartoons lost a lot of balls.
Remember Courage the Cowardly Dog? That show had balls, and if you tried to show something like that these days, shit would hit the fan. I remember its last episode... god damn that was sad.

Both "Perfect" and the one where he lost his parents to that dick of a veterinarian. Both those episodes taught me that no one is perfect, and fuck anyone else who tries to force you to be perfect. And in the latter, it taught me to love and cherish my parents. Because they can be taken away instantly at any time.

And don't even get me started on Megas XLR. Whoever cancelled that deserves to be mauled.


What do cartoons these days teach kids?
The truth.
 

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Dok Zombie said:
antipunt said:
Hmm...well, all I can say is:

Spiderman old intro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZw64rBswqc

Spiderman new intro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S19w2xXU54

Anybody notice anything?
God damn it why do they feel the need to always make new versions of cartoons in that horrible quasi-anime art style? Like with Transformers Armada, great storylines, awful animation.

If I wanted to watch anime (which I don't) I'd watch some fucking anime (which I won't), stop trying to rip off another cultures art style just because it's in vogue at the minute, ten years from now this shit is going to look so dated.
Transformers Armada was amazing and had good animation.

My favorite transformer series next to the original.
 

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Irridium said:
A big part of me wants to say its because of Nostalgia.
Nothing will compare with watching old cartoons with the wonder of a child.

Granted since they replaced the great cartoons of the past with things like "CN Real" and Cartoon Cartoon Fridays with that fried piece of shit known as "Fried Dynamite", I'm not so sure.

One things for sure though, cartoons lost a lot of balls.
Remember Courage the Cowardly Dog? That show had balls, and if you tried to show something like that these days, shit would hit the fan. I remember its last episode... god damn that was sad.

Both "Perfect" and the one where he lost his parents to that dick of a veterinarian. Both those episodes taught me that no one is perfect, and fuck anyone else who tries to force you to be perfect. And in the latter, it taught me to love and cherish my parents. Because they can be taken away instantly at any time.

And don't even get me started on Megas XLR. Whoever cancelled that deserves to be mauled.




What do cartoons these days teach kids?
you my friend; have excellent taste (lol)

i specifically remember going to a friends birthday party and we -instead of playing video games all night or going to a movie- watched a marathon of the animaniacs that he got as a birthday present. my friends and I are between the ages of 16-18 and we laughed ourselves to tears. first because of the fact that that show was hilarious enough without the high-brow jokes, then they had the jokes people only get if they're older....

I can't think of anything educational on top of what you said.

thanksgiving special:
A Hunter- Give me the bird!!!
Yakko- we'd love to really, but the Fox censors just won't allow it.

lol.
 

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LloydEsaka said:
Why has no one mentioned Freakazoid? That was the best show ever
I can't watch it, My TV has Relax-o-Vision installed and Freakazoid is just too violent...
 

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Check out some of the stuff on Adult Swim (late night Cartoon Network- 9:30pm central time and on). Robot Chicken is a stop motion animated show that uses action figures and dolls. The Boondocks,which has been mentioned, can be fairly funny if not a little politically loaded/biased.
But the one you really need to check out is The Venture Bros.
 

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hey thanks for all the comments and info!
i hear allot of courage the cowardly dog around just to say that was one of the ones i was thinking when saying "going to dark places" courage had it all a brave little hero, a small creepy house, an old russian lady, a zombie ex-hollywood directos, but at the same time courage had even adorable moments for example when it helps an intergalatic squid give birth...no seriously that actualy happened, also one of my all time favorites would be invader zim!