when is this casual gaming plauge going to stop?
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I'm not sure, but I'd draw this up to nostalgia. I don't think games with good, original stories came out in the last 'era' of gaming consoles, and I disagree further than each one was incredibly well balanced too. I think it's just a case of us being human: everything was always better however long ago, and now is always going to be much worse than before.Dracovec said:
I'm not that much against 'casual games' as such. I think anything that brings in more gamers to the market, attracts more money, and helps to fund more games for me is always a good thing. Besides, most of us probably started on a relatively 'casual' game to begin with. I kind of like all the casual games...just not the trashy ones. Hardcore or casual, trashy games just leave a bad taste in the mouth.
I honestly don't know what you wrote either, and I spend half my day deciphering language from by-gone eras. Perhaps you were tired or what-not, but you're coming across as more of an "ass" than someone pointing out the fact that you were difficult to understand. Also, "attacking" someone's spelling isn't at all a "personal level". You did that.
The thing is that games take a lot longer to make nowadays, so it's natural that there would be less released all at once. We're also at a very calm time in the video game release calender; not many people choose to release things at this time of the year.Dracovec said:
Hey stranger, at risk of making an ass of myself:
URDOINITRONG.
Research, writing, so on. However, because there's few things I like more than a good discussion and solving the problems of people I'll never meet, I'm going to refer you to here and then to here, and then I'm going to ask you to visit your most assuredly lovely fiance's workplaace and fork over $60 for the AAA release of your choice.
Have a nice day.
NOTE: Let it be known that I too am growing ill of the game industry's ever-increasing levels of homogeny, even though this thread doesn't need to exist.
URDOINITRONG.
Research, writing, so on. However, because there's few things I like more than a good discussion and solving the problems of people I'll never meet, I'm going to refer you to here and then to here, and then I'm going to ask you to visit your most assuredly lovely fiance's workplaace and fork over $60 for the AAA release of your choice.
Have a nice day.
NOTE: Let it be known that I too am growing ill of the game industry's ever-increasing levels of homogeny, even though this thread doesn't need to exist.
i disagree. the hardcore games will never, ever be cut out to release a slew of casual games. Look at MW2; it obliterated sales records of everything in existence. And look at Halo; never before has a video game caused such a cultural phenomenon. Companies will never cut these cash cows out, because that would be just plain stupid.Dracovec said:
using the terms that are recognized doesnt say anything about my mindset and also i own over 400 games,of them 30 ps3,20 360 i give them all a chance and ill try to find something good in them i am just seeing a decline in quality over the last few years and the "casual" money making gaming market can be contributedThatPurpleGuy said:
There are still plenty of good games out there. I would say the number of good games is the same as it always has been but there's just more games overall. What I hate is when they make sequels to good games more casual eg. Splinter Cell Conviction.
How do you know I didn't just go out and buy both of those? I may not have gotten them both on release date... (I bought Arkham Asylum when it first came out, and Demon's Souls I got last month) (I've also received other current generation games, they just weren't my choices/purchases)Dracovec said:
I have a huge backlog, so I've been limiting my purchase of current generation games. I need to get through a large chunk of the last two generations of games.
Nothing's wrong with Casual games, like the guy with the Ninja avatar said, a good chunk of them are really fun.
Pop Cap is probably one of my favorite developers because all their games are original, pretty, and well...Fun! I found myself enjoying Plants VS Zombies more than Halo 3.
Casual games provide games for a wider audience, and help make games become more acceptable. If the image of gaming is Plants VS Zombies instead of Gears of War 2, then I wouldn't mind.
Back to the dog bowl!
Pop Cap is probably one of my favorite developers because all their games are original, pretty, and well...Fun! I found myself enjoying Plants VS Zombies more than Halo 3.
Casual games provide games for a wider audience, and help make games become more acceptable. If the image of gaming is Plants VS Zombies instead of Gears of War 2, then I wouldn't mind.
Back to the dog bowl!
not arguing it would be stupid but thats all gaming is turning into aside from the flooded market of j-rpg strategy rpgs have dwindled(at least ones worth playing) adventure,heavy puzzle now its shooters and sandbox constantly which all have that like gta shit going on..cptawesome said:
Immersion, motherfuckers. The gameplay can be as dodgy as my 6 year old PC, what developers have apparently forgotten is how to write. The innumerable space marines wouldn't be an issue if they were compellingly written.
There was a guest on Charlie Brooker's Gameswipe who articulated this perfectly. He said something along the lines of "technology has come along in leaps and bounds so prolific it boggles the mind to compare today's works to something released even just 5 years ago, however, the writing has barely progressed since the eighties." I can't remember it exactly. Or be fucked to find the episode. It's on youtube somewhere if you're interested.
Games like (brace for personal bias) Dragon Age: Origins are actually progressing this field. The world they create known as Thedas is just so contextually believable and complete. Go and visit greywardens.com to see what I mean, they write articles on every aspect of it, and I've seen no other game where that's possible without just making up a load of fan-imagined bullshit.
There was a guest on Charlie Brooker's Gameswipe who articulated this perfectly. He said something along the lines of "technology has come along in leaps and bounds so prolific it boggles the mind to compare today's works to something released even just 5 years ago, however, the writing has barely progressed since the eighties." I can't remember it exactly. Or be fucked to find the episode. It's on youtube somewhere if you're interested.
Games like (brace for personal bias) Dragon Age: Origins are actually progressing this field. The world they create known as Thedas is just so contextually believable and complete. Go and visit greywardens.com to see what I mean, they write articles on every aspect of it, and I've seen no other game where that's possible without just making up a load of fan-imagined bullshit.
This may be true that a lot of games copy other, more successful games, but that's because those games have a formula that works. There are still plenty of games that feature excellent stories (most notably Mass Effect and Heavy Rain) that no other medium can achieve. i literally had to stop and stare at my screen in amazement because what I was seeing was so incredible.Dracovec said:
If a game decides to copy a better game-let's continue using GTA- and it turns out bad, that's simply because it's a bad game, not because it decided to copy something else.
No... That was my point, games have always sucked at that. A very select few actually hire people with imaginations. Casual gaming is just the embodiment of the problem.Dracovec said:
Casual gaming is some prick smashing his hotwheels with a hammer. Fun for a while, devoid of creativity.
Video gaming should aspire to be a cardboard box, where your imagination is the limit. It could be a firetruck, a train, a castle. You name it.
