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OT: Until the Popcap CEO is shot by the programmer of the original Doom
when is this casual gaming plauge going to stop?
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OT: Until the Popcap CEO is shot by the programmer of the original Doom
It's all heavy nostalgia; this image that games used to better a couple of years ago. Not true, it's just that the only games that anyone remembers are the good ones (or the really, really bad ones). I strongly suspect that the same number of good games come out nowadays as has always been the case (although more games in general are being released, reducing the percentage of 'good' games), but to exclude the 'casual' games from your definition of good games is sheer madness - sure, they're not as long, but they don't need to be. Games are, and always will be, primarily about having fun. Whether this is with Plants vs. Zombies, Portal, or Mass Effect, I'm playing it to enjoy, not to proclaim myself a 'hardcore gamer'.
What is a 'casual game', anyway? Surely a game is a game, pure and simple? If it's a game you play casually, then it pretty much covers any game except several day long RPG's, MMORPG's, and games played at a professionally competitive level. So really, most games are casual?
What is a 'casual game', anyway? Surely a game is a game, pure and simple? If it's a game you play casually, then it pretty much covers any game except several day long RPG's, MMORPG's, and games played at a professionally competitive level. So really, most games are casual?
I find it easy enough to find games I want to play but then again I spend a lot of time getting information and opinions on games. Going into game stores and just looking for something good would a waste of time, like finding a needle in a haystack.
actually i havent named names on games,and no not all old games where good but they were more abundant the gaming companies put more work into,story,gameplay,systems and so forth...yes i have played all the games i have brought my conclusions from and mostly i have a ***** about the market being flooded with shooters,sandbox and j-strategy grid rpgs, and i dont remember actually saying space marine shooter but,mass effect,crysis,haze,avp,borderlands(to an extent),gears of war(giving gears and mass effect credit for being decent games) but i would keep going but im tired of trying to think em up loleclipsed_chemistry said:
even if i have to fight my side lol
nahh to stuffy and dont get me wrong i buy and or play a lot of new games every month and find good in some and bad in some...i love gaming and its an exciting time to be a gamer especially one who started on and old apple and an atari it could go a lot of ways but i do believe things getting so large and marketable will make the need for companies to make really involved,heavy story,adventure games die because the gamers like myself need more from games than bang bang,and twinkly rows of jewels to keep us going the old saying not dying with a bang but with a whisper comes to mindblood77 said:
i will back you up, i had to read his post a good 3-4 times to decipher what he was getting at, its english alright, just mixed up and missing words.reg42 said:
This is one of the better gens of gaming I have been through, and since I have been playing video games since the early 80's, I have been through about all of them. Anyone thinking that older generations had hit after hit is kidding themselves. Super Nintendo gets a lot of love from folks for example, some stating it was the best console ever, however for every Super Metroid, there was a Bart's Nightmare. For every Final Fantasy, there was a Ren and Stimpy game.
This gen has produced many quality games in rapid succession. Were the older games harder? Sure they were, but they were hard for all the wrong reasons most of the time, hard for reasons that gamers Today would complain about to no end. No save system for most games, cheap deaths, off screen enemies shooting you, limited lives, no continues, broken enemies, horrible controls, etc. How many times did you do a screen transition in the original Legend of Zelda, only to be placed directly upon a randomly generated enemy? How many times did you have to try to do a proper series of wall jumps in Super Metroid to climb out of a pit because the controls just weren't responsive enough? There are many more examples, but you get the general idea.
You want to make current gen games harder, this is what you do. Turn off the hint system (if you are able to) right when you get the game, turn the difficulty all the way to highest setting, TURN OFF AUTOSAVE AND DON'T SAVE YOUR GAME. When playing RPGs, never level up your skills and don't get any better equipment. Games are only piss easy these days because you would complain if they were too difficult on your anyway. *points to Yahtzee's review of Demon's Souls*.
This gen has produced many quality games in rapid succession. Were the older games harder? Sure they were, but they were hard for all the wrong reasons most of the time, hard for reasons that gamers Today would complain about to no end. No save system for most games, cheap deaths, off screen enemies shooting you, limited lives, no continues, broken enemies, horrible controls, etc. How many times did you do a screen transition in the original Legend of Zelda, only to be placed directly upon a randomly generated enemy? How many times did you have to try to do a proper series of wall jumps in Super Metroid to climb out of a pit because the controls just weren't responsive enough? There are many more examples, but you get the general idea.
You want to make current gen games harder, this is what you do. Turn off the hint system (if you are able to) right when you get the game, turn the difficulty all the way to highest setting, TURN OFF AUTOSAVE AND DON'T SAVE YOUR GAME. When playing RPGs, never level up your skills and don't get any better equipment. Games are only piss easy these days because you would complain if they were too difficult on your anyway. *points to Yahtzee's review of Demon's Souls*.
I don' think it will stop. The geniuses at Nintendo have turned the industry on it's head, and now everyone wants a piece of that pie.
well i make usual tours to gamestop and find myself finding the same thing you say isnt there i like some shooters,sandbox and love j rpg i give it all a go but when i walk into g-stop and see all the same things you say arent there then yes i know what im looking at and i have played them currently over the last few months all i havent got to try was mass effect 2,assassins creed 2,and heavy rain...hell i even tried jurassic the hunted for christ sakes LOL666Chaos said:
I like casual games. Since when did something have to be difficult with a gritty story in order to be good?
I enjoy both casual and regular games. I wouldn't really compare the two in the same way but they can both still be fun. Casual gaming if anything is improving the games industry. By making games more accessible, the industry becomes more profitable. There's still plenty of titles to appease 'hardcore' gamers but if you get obsessed with the idea of disillusionment then you're never going to notice.
I enjoy both casual and regular games. I wouldn't really compare the two in the same way but they can both still be fun. Casual gaming if anything is improving the games industry. By making games more accessible, the industry becomes more profitable. There's still plenty of titles to appease 'hardcore' gamers but if you get obsessed with the idea of disillusionment then you're never going to notice.