White males only scholarship

[Sakurazaki1023]

(Damn, reverse discrimination sucks)

Stop calling reverse discrimination, there's no such thing. Discriminating against whites or men or straights is still discrimination. Discrimination doesn't default to discrimination against minorities.

I was referring to the irony of discrimination towards a group by trying to avoid discrimination. People are tying to give more opportunities to minority groups and I respect that, but those opportunities shouldn't cause discrimination against another group. The irony comes into play when there are so many exclusive opportunities that regular need-based scholarships (that are open to anyone) don't exist.

 

[Comrade_Beric]

Looks like just another case of "It's only racism because you're white."

"It's only racism if you're the majority" more like. Mugabe deporting white people to give away their land in Zimbabwe is racist, too. White or Black, intentionally insuring the supremacy of the majority ethnic group, either through targeted exclusive assistance or obstruction of minorities, is wrong. Assisting an impoverished minority in an attempt to create a more equal society, however, sometimes requires helping a minority that is afforded few other opportunities.

As an example of how black people are still the victims or racial bias in the US, I offer you this: A sociological study performed in the mid-2000s took place by taking four different types of resume` and sending them to different firms to see their response. Two resumes` were for good, well qualifies candidates, and the other two were of more average candidates. On one of the good resumes there would put a generic sounding name like "Robert" or "Linda" and on the other they would put a more ethnic name like "Deshaun" or "Shaniqua." They then did the same to the average resumes and mailed the resumes individually to a firm seeking the same position. On average, the generic named resumes received a call back 50% more often than the ethnic named ones with nearly identical qualifications. This was most extreme in cases where the firms were hiring for high visibility positions such as sales representatives, and least prevalent in positions relating almost exclusively towards skill such as technical support personnel.

Claiming that black people are not at a disadvantage in modern society is disingenuous at best and comparing programs which intentionally try to assist them in overcoming this social bias, though perhaps not fair in and of themselves, still promote greater fairness in our society at large, and thus have a place, imo. A college fund accessible exclusively to the already empowered majority, though empirically similar in operation, is an agent exclusively for the increase in disparity between opportunities afforded between said majority and all other ethnic groups within that society.

 

[TeeBs]

I think we need to make an end of these race specific scholarship, one of the reasons black only scholarships started was because of the widening gap between poor black people and rich white people. Understandably though there are white people who can't afford college and black people who can, why not make scholarships that benefit you based on how little income your family has. Too me that makes way more sense.

There are still some hugely under represented minorities in school. Generally I agree with you in terms of women and blacks, but Latinos and Native Americans are still very very under represented in Universities in Canada and the US.

What I mean is that we should more or less give scholarships to college based on income not on race. To me it doesn't matter what race you belong to, if your race is underrepresented then such scholarships would help your race more, not because it picks your race out specificly, but because more people in your race would apply for said scholarships.*

Not your race specifically.

 

[PinochetIsMyBro]

I'm not screaming it my dear, simply stating it. So which type are you? The supremacist, or the hater whose gonna hate? Unless, of course, you have a genuine reason for not liking the reduced percentage of white people - which I'd love to hear.

It's funny how you think I'm going to explain myself in depth when you started out with a baseless slur and then continued to name call while trying to present yourself as reasonable. I have better things to do than bang my head against a wall composed entirely of your stupidity.

Racism in America has been dead for decades, with the exception of the discredited, minuscule groups too insecure to accept that the amount of melanin in their skin does not, in fact, make them superior beings.

And yet race is still an issue. The fact that we as a society can't collectively "get over it" is incredibly distressing.

We should be awarding scholarships on merit and hardship, not skin color; excluding any ethnic group, for any reason, is still discrimination.

Sigh.

Why is it that people always think of skin color when it comes to race, and not say... differences in skull sizes, susceptibility to disease, body build, etc. It was never about melanin, and people who think that we evolved the same mentally after being geographically isolated from one another when we didn't evolve the same physically drive me insane with their ignorance.

I've got to force myself to stop posting in this thread before my brain tries to claw its way out of my skull to escape the stupidity and ignorance filtering in through my eyes. Back to yahtzee's videos and gorgeous mass effect 2 artwork! Quickly!

 

[KEM10]

I this is stupid do Hispanics have a group like this yo know if your whit male and not disabled yo can probably afford this.And if yo look at demographics the male to female education is even.I really don't there is a need for this "equality push", just get better application reviewers.I really wouldn't call non-males a minority.Also how many people are they intending to give an application.

There a Hispanic only scholarships. There are also scholarships for people who are left handed, who have a family member in the free masons, a family member in the rotary club, lion's club, gender specific, age specific, race specific, choice in major specific, and any combination of those that you can think of.

Also, there are more women in college than men.

 

[Danny Ocean]

Try going up to a poor white guy and saying 'statistically you make more than other races so you'll be fine'.

That's not really an argument, now is it?

These are macro issues, on a higher level than any individual, and as such need to be addressed on a macro scale.

 

[DuctTapeJedi]

Spoiler

They already have advanced privileges specifically for white males. It's called being a white male.

That's the whole point of scholarships for females and non-whites, to help them advance in a white male dominated society.

I don't think being in the majority is of much comfort to the poor white male that has to quit school because he can't afford it.

They already have advanced privileges specifically for white males. It's called being a white male.

That's the whole point of scholarships for females and non-whites, to help them advance in a white male dominated society.

This isn't the 1950s. Other than in some select communities outside mainstream US culture, being a white male carries no innate privileges in 2011.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States#Race_and_gender_disparities

I'm going by the statistics.

Try going up to a poor white guy and saying 'statistically you make more than other races so you'll be fine'.

This'll be my last post, this has the potential to get... unpleasant.

Scholarships specifically for non whites and women are intended to close a gap left by years of oppression. I'm not saying white males can't get scholarships, ever, that's crazy. There's tons of scholarships that are open to everyone. In fact, most are. But creating a scholarship solely to assist a demographic that statistically is already doing fine, and everyone else is trying to catch up to is... I don't even know what... It just doesn't make any sense.

 

[BanthaFodder]

way I see it, if you can get a scholarship for not being white, why not have a scholarship for being white?

basing things like scholarships on physical traits (other than say, a sports scholorship) is idiotic. it's as idiotic as the people who voted for Obama because he was black (or the people that DIDN'T vote for him for that same reason). as Morgan Freeman once said, the only way racism is going to go away is when we stop labeling eachother as "black men" or "white men" and start labeling eachother as PEOPLE.

but yeah, if you can get a scholarship for being black, or hispanic, or any race for that matter, why not caucasian? how is it not racist to offer a scholarship to someone because they are of a certain race, yet deny another person because they are not? the general idea is that only white people can be racist. anyone with a brain that has lived in the real world can tell you this a steaming pile.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Okay. There actually aren't a lot of white male scholarships most are targets at minorities or special interest to the extent that being white and male precludes a vast number of scholarships and leaves only the ones that white males have to fight just as hard for. I don't see a problem.

 

[DannibalG36]

Uh... this is a great idea. The majority of all scholarships focus on minority groups - it's nice to see someone willing to give out money to those of us who aren't racially/physically "special."

 

[RN7]

I don't see why this is bad. Everybody else has a scholarship, these guys are (technically) a minority, and it's not like they're just giving 500 dollar to every white guy who shows up and there doorstep. The need and academia is still in place.

 

[Del-Toro]

It's fine with me. I personally hope no one starts screaming about how it "excludes" other races. I'm sure that's what some of the bleeding hearts are going to scream.

Actually, this brings up a question, how are any other ethnically based scholarships any less racist? It's not like the world is divided strictly into whites and everyone else. A scholarship exclusively for black students, of which there are a few, can't be awarded to an arabic or east asian student, because those students aren't black. It goes the other way too, but my point remains the same.

And to the people who are saying that whites have it good enough in the states to not need scholarships at all, you're talking out your ass. It would be more accurate to say that most of the wealth is controlled by white people than to say that white people control the wealth, because the latter would imply that we're all in on it. We're not, there are plenty of white people living in poverty. Not me personally, but there are plenty, even in Canada, eh?

 

[Jegsimmons]

either give everyone no matter the race, religion, sex, ect. the same scholarship options, or get rid of them all together.

 

[strangemoose]

Why indignation? I'm not allowed to sign up for half the scholarships out there because I'm not a one-legged, blind, lesbian, aboriginal woman that lives in a 1km radius on the northeast side of town. At least with this one I would have a chance.

Edit: Why not get rid of these kinds of physical restrictions altogether? Make it based on what a person has done. I still wouldn't get any since I don't volunteer enough, but at least someone who deserves it, instead of the guy who only got it because he lives on a boat and has no ears.

AMEN listin listin to this mans words of wisdom!!!!

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

I personally think it's a little unfair to have it white men, but that's a WHOLE different can of worms.

 

[annoyinglizardvoice]

They have education in Texas?!?

But seriously, I disaprove of any scolarship that takes race into account, regardless of which race is involved.