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Brawndo said:
I await your indignation
The thing I was worried about the most is that this would be a reactionary and childish program, taking cheap digs at the current state of affairs in our culture. I'm actually surprised that they're presenting a mature and reasoned argument because instead of levying accusations, they are raising important questions:

1. What does it mean to be a "minority" or "majority?" Is it a numbers thing? A "dominant culture" thing? At what point does the label go away, if at all?

2. Is it fair to continue to segregate these scholarships for minorities while we're still trying to bolster efforts to make the "for all" programs more inclusive?

3. Do "minority-only" scholarships revert us back to the Plessy v. Ferguson "separate but equal" days? If we don't allow "white-only" scholarships, are we enforcing "separate but inequal" instead--in that "minority" students can apply for both, but white students can only apply for one (and are often viewed with lower preference in those!)?
 

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I think this is a GREAT idea. In fact, I was just talking to some friends about how white males are the new "minority" because we're the only ones not given any privileges just for being a certain color or gender.

I'm all for this. Go Texas.
 

Irony's Acolyte

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The main reason why I think its a bit unnecessary for there to be a scholarship for white males is that wasn't created with the same purpose as the scholarships for minorities. These scholarships are made to help give minorities the ability to go to good colleges, mainly to the fact that minorities (on average) aren't as financially secure as the majority (whites). This scholarship seems more like it was created because if all the other groups were getting scholarships just for being part of a group, why shouldn't white males. Because we all know how hard white males have had it throughout history.

Of course it would be really nice if scholarships were based entirely upon a person's actions rather than what group he can be put into. But I'm still not complaining about this. This is equality, everyone can get a scholarship based on their race and gender.
 

La Barata

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quote="Zachary Amaranth" post="18.267833.10245019"]Whites have it rough in this nation. They totally need a leg up to stand on par with the rest of the nation.[/quote]

I understand you are being sarcastic, but you'd be partially correct in your statement depending where you live. Come to the South sometime; I can show you plenty of economically disadvantaged white men who could desperately use a scholarship to get out of the cycle of poverty they and their families are trapped in.[/quote]

Hell, I live in Canada, used to live just north of Toronto. I, as a white male, was a visible minority. Literally 7/8ths of my school was asian, and another 3/4 of that were black/brown/hispanic etc. There were maybe 20 white kids at my school.
 

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It's about damn time. I always thought those race, gender, sexual orientation grants were blatantly racist. It's actually HARD to be a white straight male because no one thinks that hating you for being a white straight male is racist.

I use to live in the slums of Pittsburgh. I was reminded on a daily basis that my skin color wasn't welcome there. Ironically, among the many many slangs thrown at me (cracker, ghost, etc etc) being accused of being racist was peppered in there. When all I wanted to do was go to class and not die in a drive by shooting!

Which I nearly did when the bus I was on got used as covered by two warring gangs.
 

Gigano

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Like all AA, it sounds like a tolerable preventive idea, assuming of course the demographic of collage age white males is actually lagging behind in terms of education.

Though free higher education and government grants for everyone with a need accepted might be a tad bit more fair.
 

tgrant200

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This is a great idea! Many people think that ALL white people are rich. Coming from a working class (NOT middle class, another rung lower) white family and currently attending college most of my college funding comes from grants and need based scholarships. I'm glad they came up with this scholarship for the white men in Texas. If you are in the working class you deserve some help funding your higher education regardless of whether you are white or not.

On a side note: When can white males stop paying for the sins of the forefathers? When can society forgive what our race did in the past? In most cases the perpetrators of the racism/slavery (depending how far back you go) are people we don't know, that are not even related to us. Since we are white though we must feel obligated to feel sorry for what some people did 40-150 years ago. Slavery and segregation were not fair or humane, but not everyone's ancestors were white slave owners. Some of our ancestors did not even jump across the pond until after slavery was long since past.
 

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I have no problem with scholarship in general, but I do have a problem when it's based on race/religion. Why not what I did as a person, not what group I'm with? It's like saying "How your X race, you need help", not "Hey you did great and school and need help".
 

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I'm not trying to start any controversy and I'm white myself but the thing is mot people who would and do agree with this are indeed... well white.

Rich white people don't need to go to school, all they need is a job and learn how to sell bottled water like their four fathers before them. Since the wealth of their family is astronomical and will never perish.

Reason why minorities DO say that its an act of racism is because we do have those individuals who are indeed white and control the color blue. (Sarcasm) Where as other minorities don't have any individuals of the sort gaining that type of wealth.

But overall I see what they did thur.
 

PunkRex

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So what your saying is that if I moved to Texas from England id actually stand a CHANCE of getting into uni... the bastards.
 

Arehexes

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Brawndo said:
believer258 said:
Also, NO MORE FUCKING SPORTS SCHOLARSHIPS. I'm tired of seeing utterly useless bullies and shitheads getting a free ride because the only thing they can do is throw a fucking ball farther than anyone else in the area, or hit something or someone.
Completely ignoring your raging, biased comment about "bullies and shitheads" that is clearly rooted in being thrown into lockers one too many times at school, this will never happen because:

1. Athletic scholarships are the only way some people have access to college at all. Only 2-3% of NCAA athletes actually go into professional sports, but all of them have the opportunity to take advantage of their college experience if they choose to study hard and not take a bullshit major

2. Collegiate sports are very large revenue generators for many schools. My undergrad school had an $80+ million athletic department, and 20 percent of its revenues were turned over to the school for academic and administrative use
It bothers me though when at my school sports takes precedent over students. If I leave my dorm to go off campus (Like for work or to go home to get school stuff), I'm not allowed on campus during a home football game. Why is this, because I don't have a gameday pass. The problem is I paid 363~ dollars to park in my dorm area, and the one day game day pass is on the other side of the dorm area(my spots are on top of a hill while gameday passes are on the bottom of the hill). So in order to park at my dorm I have to buy in advance a gameday pass which wouldn't even apply to were I park at.
 

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I don't really care about this. I just hope some worthy students benefit. I just find it amusing when white males (I am a white male, btw) complain about how hard they have it, and how much discrimination they face and woe be them for they are an oppressed minority group...blah blah blah.

EDIT: I find it strange that most of you say most scholarships you find are restricted based on race or gender. Almost all the ones I find in my college are based on merit, financial need, or certain academic requirements: your major, membership regarding the business college/humanities program, etc, or whether you're going on study abroad.

Certainly I believe you, but it's not all doom and gloom guys.
 

Wolfram23

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naab said:
I'm not trying to start any controversy and I'm white myself but the thing is mot people who would and do agree with this are indeed... well white.

Rich white people don't need to go to school, all they need is a job and learn how to sell bottled water like their four fathers before them. Since the wealth of their family is astronomical and will never perish.

Reason why minorities DO say that its an act of racism is because we do have those individuals who are indeed white and control the color blue. (Sarcasm) Where as other minorities don't have any individuals of the sort gaining that type of wealth.

But overall I see what they did thur.
1) "rich whites" wouldn't qualify.

2) There are many, many, many foreigners (ie: non whites) who are completely loaded.

3) Notice how "trailer trash" is usually white people? Yeah blacks and other ethnicities have their ghettos and such too, but I'm just saying that because there are rich white people it doesn't at all mean white people have some sort of advantage.