Who is the Greatest Space Marine?

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I'll say Master Chief. He was the first space marine I knew.
Was that a joke post?
Nah. I know there's a lot of Halo hate here but I stand by what I said. The guy saved the human race for Pete's sake.
He's not a space marine. He's in the Navy.
Yeah, Space Navy! Navy = Water. Water = marine(s).
Seriously though, Gordon Freeman isn't either of those and people have been posting him. If you're gonna nitpick so much then why not do something about that?
Anyone who wears armor and shoots aliens in space is close enough to be called a space marine.
Sergeant Major Johnson is a space marine. Master Chief Petty Officer is the equivalent of a Space Navy SEAL.
I all ready said something along those lines.


PirateKing said:
Is that what everyone calls him? Doomguy? That's funny. I've never played a Doom game actually. I'd go out on a limb and say they're not as good as Halo though.
I like playing as someone who is someone though. You know what I mean? Not just, "Doomguy."
I don't know why it's so popular in shooters today to not characterize the guy we're playing as.
I like them doing that because I like coming up with the back story, it helps me get into the game more. And well Master Chief only ever goes by his rank in the games ever... I don't care that the books have his name be John.
The books are good by the way. Just thought I'd throw it out there.
I just like to be someone rather that someone with no personality who is for some reason much stronger than any of the other characters.
At least Master Chief has a reason for why he's so powerful.
 

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PirateKing said:
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I'll say Master Chief. He was the first space marine I knew.
Was that a joke post?
Nah. I know there's a lot of Halo hate here but I stand by what I said. The guy saved the human race for Pete's sake.
So did Doomguy, he saved Earth multiple times from the invading Demons....well it fell sorta once....
Is that what everyone calls him? Doomguy? That's funny. I've never played a Doom game actually. I'd go out on a limb and say they're not as good as Halo though.
I like playing as someone who is someone though. You know what I mean? Not just, "Doomguy."
I don't know why it's so popular in shooters today to not characterize the guy we're playing as.
I'm not going into the Halo sucks rant because that's off topic. Back in the days of Doomguy, backstory wasn't a big thing in shooters, that's just how it was, they said you're a space marine and demons are invading...kill them.
 

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He seems to be underrated, but Vasquez. In fact, I'm going to watch that there movie now.
 

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I'd vote for Corporal Andrew "Frosty" Harrison, mostly because I can't really think of any other space marine in a game that I enjoyed.

- J
 

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mrfft said:
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I'll say Master Chief. He was the first space marine I knew.
Was that a joke post?
Nah. I know there's a lot of Halo hate here but I stand by what I said. The guy saved the human race for Pete's sake.
So did Doomguy, he saved Earth multiple times from the invading Demons....well it fell sorta once....
Is that what everyone calls him? Doomguy? That's funny. I've never played a Doom game actually. I'd go out on a limb and say they're not as good as Halo though.
I like playing as someone who is someone though. You know what I mean? Not just, "Doomguy."
I don't know why it's so popular in shooters today to not characterize the guy we're playing as.
I'm not going into the Halo sucks rant because that's off topic. Back in the days of Doomguy, backstory wasn't a big thing in shooters, that's just how it was, they said you're a space marine and demons are invading...kill them.
I remember a day when people were brave enough to say they liked Halo. Those days were nice.
I didn't grow up in the days of Doomguy. I grew up watching anime and reading books and playing platformers and stuff.
I just like characterization and I think it's wierd when characters are totally passive when people are talking to them. I like to hear a "Let's go" or something.
 

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He was a marine, so I'd say he's the greatest space marine, since well...you know...he actually exists.

Edit: Him in the actual Marine uniform

 

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So, in summary, "the greatest space marine" doesn't work very well on the grounds that space marines belong to sketchy fictional organizations and it's hard to tell who belongs to what.

The Emperor -- Is he a space marine, or is he an emperor now?
X Shephard -- He's described as a "Soldier" or possibly one of the other classes, and a Spectre, but not a Space Marine.
Samus -- She's a freelance bounty hunter, really.
Master Chief -- We've already covered that. Really, nobody is specifically called a "Space Marine" in Halo, but they're probably all under a space marine umbrella (or do you think Space Marines wouldn't have ranks?)
Rico (?) -- There's a few Ricos in anime, and neither are specifically Space Marines.

According to Wikipedia, here's our choice of Space Marines:
  • [li] Aliens Series (1986-1997) - United States Colonial Marines[/li]
    [li] Babylon 5 (1994-1998) - EarthForce Marine Corps (also known as "Gropos" or "GROund POunderS")[/li]
    [li] Battlestar Galactica (2004) - Colonial Marine Corps, Colonial Marine Corps Reserve[/li]
    [li] Command & Conquer series(1995-present) Global Defense Initiative[/li]
    [li] Doom series (1993 - present) - the United States Space Marine Corps[/li]
    [li] Falkenberg's Legion series (1976-1993) - The CoDominium Marines[/li]
    [li] Ground Control (2000) - Crayven Corporation's Marines unit.[/li]
    [li] Halo Series (2001-Present) - UNSC Marine Corps, UNSC ODST (Orbital Drop Shock Troopers) Corps.[/li]
    [li] Heritage Trilogy, Legacy Trilogy, Inheritance Trilogy (1998-present) - United States Marines Corps, United Star Marine Corps[/li]
    [li] Killzone series (2003-present) Interplanetary Strategic Alliance Marines[/li]
    [li] Lensman series (1937) - Galactic Marines[/li]
    [li] Metroid (1986-present) - the Galactic Federation Marine Corps[/li]
    [li] Outwars (1998) - Colonial Marines[/li]
    [li] Quake Series (1996-present)[/li]
    [li] Rolling Thunder - (2008) - Martian Naval Corps[/li]
    [li] Space: Above and Beyond (1995) - United States Marine Corps Space Aviator Cavalry[/li]
    [li] Space Marines (1996) - A United Planets Marine hostage rescue team battles space pirates[/li]
    [li] Starblazers (1972) - Ground combact units found on the 11th planet.[/li]
    [li] StarCraft (1998) - Confederate Marine Corps later succeeded by the Dominion Marine Corps. Other corps include the Alliance Marine Corps, the United Earth Directorate Powered Infantry and numerous more.[/li]
    [li] Starfire series - Federation Navy Marine Corps[/li]
    [li] StarFist series - Confederation Marine Corps[/li]
    [li] Stargate Atlantis - US Marines are attached to the Atlantis Expedition as security forces, referred to as 'Space Marines' by Expedition members.[/li]
    [li] Star Wars - Galactic Marines of the Grand Army of the Republic originally known as the 21st Nova Corps was an elite unit that was created as the Grand Army of the Republic diversified during the Clone Wars.The unit was commanded by Jedi General Ki-Adi-Mundi and Clone Commander Bacara.[/li]
    [li] The Mote in God's Eye (1975) and related novels - Imperial Marines[/li]
    [li] TimeSplitters 2 (2002) - Space Marines (Sergeant Cortez & Corporal Hart)[/li]
    [li] TimeSplitters: Future Perfect (2005) - Space Marines (Sergeant Cortez)[/li]
    [li] Traveller (1977) - Star Marines, Imperial Marine Force, Solomani Marine Corps, Zhodani Consular Guard[/li]
    [li] Turok (video game) (2008)[/li]
    [li] Warhammer 40,000 (1987-present) - Imperial Space Marine Chapters, and also to an extent Chaos Space Marines.[/li]
    [li] Wing Commander Franchise (1990-1999) - Terran Confederation Marine Corps[/li]
Amongst those I'm familiar with from that list, I'm thinking the Warhammer 40k are probably the "greatest" at least in term of hardcore butch-ness. Genetically engineered, power-armored badasses. The only trouble is picking out a specific one -- as I just covered, calling the Emperor a mere Space Marine is likely to get you lynched as a heretic. After that, you're pretty much looking at as many overzealous He-Men as grains of sand on a beach.
 

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geldonyetich said:
Rico (?) -- There's a few Ricos in anime, and neither are specifically Space Marines.
Starship Troopers. Though he's called a "Mobile Infantry" he fits all the credentials for Marine. (i.e. dropped exclusivly from Navy ships).
 

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PirateKing said:
I remember a day when people were brave enough to say they liked Halo. Those days were nice.
Come on, wash the sand out of your craw here and just let it go. No one's doing a "Halo sucks" rant, there's no call for you to basically call them out as cowards and liars. Halo isn't too popular on these boards. What can you do?

Especially in this instance where you can't pick Master Chief because he is not a marine. It has nothing to do with liking/disliking the franchise. Just let it drop.

- J
 

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tiredinnuendo said:
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I remember a day when people were brave enough to say they liked Halo. Those days were nice.
Come on, wash the sand out of your craw here and just let it go. No one's doing a "Halo sucks" rant, there's no call for you to basically call them out as cowards and liars. Halo isn't too popular on these boards. What can you do?

Especially in this instance where you can't pick Master Chief because he is not a marine. It has nothing to do with liking/disliking the franchise. Just let it drop.

- J
Just saying there's a lot of Halo hate here for some reason. I just think it's strange that opinions have drastically changed about such a popular franchise. I am not calling them cowards. Someone did mention the Halo sucks argument a few quotes ago.
I would drop it if I hadn't been quoted by twenty(hyperbole) people. I'm sorry for taking the term space marine and thinking of it in a general sense.
For the sake of ending this firestorm, I'll say Johnson is my favorite.
 

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Horus was the greatest space marine.
He could wtfpwn Master chief, samus, or any other suggestion.
Other than the Emperor.
But then the Emperor wasnt a space marine.

I WIN!
 

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You in System Shock 2 when you pick the marine class. I can't which specialty that was, but it doesn't matter. You were a space marine and awesome.
 

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Adrian Shepard. Well, he was in the HECU. And then he went to space on an Osprey.

So he's similar to a space marine...
 

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Adrian Shepard. Well, he was in the HECU. And then he went to space on an Osprey.

So he's similar to a space marine...
Yeah, and the fact he is awsome just pushes it I think.

Is this rico not the one from killzone then?
 

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Tsuki Tanaka said:
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Nah, j/k.

Does Samus Aran count?
If she's a Marine then yes.
She's not, she's a bounty hunter.

"Hunter Clad in Metal" as the space pirates call her...


... but she still has my vote. I don't care if she ain't a marine. XD
Well, what definition are we running on with "space marine?" Anything in Power armour? Or actual affiliation with a space military, etc.?
She was actually in the space marine corps. at one point (before any of the games), but then left to go freelance. I guess you could call her a space mercenary.
 

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I like how everyone brushes off Master Chief as not really being a Space Marine, yet Samus Aran got past on the first page with only a tiny scuffle to mark it. It just seems to be something of an arbitary definition.

If I have to be picky for only specifically titled marines in space to count, then it would have to go to either Sgt. Johnson or any of the myriad of badasses in the Adeptus Astartes.

If I was allowed to be less picky, then I'd probably go with Commander Shepard in Mass Effect, or indeed the Master Chief.