Who would be the victor in the 40K universe?

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TheRightToArmBears

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The Dark Ones. They don't actually exist, I made them up whislt gluing random bits together and never came up with a backstory.

I'd love to say Eldar, but they're pretty boned, so probably Tyranids.
 

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avykins said:
Cheesebob said:
Chaos.

How well do Tyranids do against worlds which are changed and shaped by the gods themselves?

People seem to forget, the eye of terror is where the gods of chaos like to touch the real world, thus pretty much anything is fucked...necrons would be second
Chaos is powered by the thoughts and emotions of the human race. If the Imperium fell then chaos would not be long behind it. Its current followers would have no choice but to turn on each other and would be easy pickings for the 'Nids.
Oh plus 'Nids have the power to "cast a shadow" over the warp basically silencing it. They would destroy the gods power or at least severely weaken it.
Khorne, Nurgle and Tzeentch would still exist quite happily, slightly less influential maybe, but still powerful...Slannesh would be obliterated because only the eldar and tau would be left to experiance pleasure and they seem pretty...well chaste compared to the imperium.

But if the 'Nids did try and invade the Eye of Terror, can you imagine the shit the Chaos gods could do just to destroy or at least create a stalemate with them? It would be stupidally deady and powerfull :D
 

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Triple G said:
DUDE. Tau would be overrun in a matter of hours. There are maybe 100billion Tau in the universe and like 100000000000 billion tyranids. You can have the very best things in super sliced bread but if you're outnumbered 1000 to 1 you will lose.
meh, you forget the amazing tau fire power and they aren't fools you know
tau would know to take down the synapse creatures first

and who knows, maybe they would be able to take out the norn queen before they even make planet fall

the nids 100000000..... billions wouldn't count for as much against the tau armada
 

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painfull2006 said:
Triple G said:
DUDE. Tau would be overrun in a matter of hours. There are maybe 100billion Tau in the universe and like 100000000000 billion tyranids. You can have the very best things in super sliced bread but if you're outnumbered 1000 to 1 you will lose.
meh, you forget the amazing tau fire power and they aren't fools you know
tau would know to take down the synapse creatures first

and who knows, maybe they would be able to take out the norn queen before they even make planet fall

the nids 100000000..... billions wouldn't count for as much against the tau armada
Tau would be the FIRST to die, waaaaay before the Imperium, not matter how good their firepower is, when your enemies outnumber blades of grass you are screwed unless you have some amazing abilities (IE. Gods which can manifest themselves)
 

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stinkychops said:
Cheesebob said:
painfull2006 said:
Triple G said:
DUDE. Tau would be overrun in a matter of hours. There are maybe 100billion Tau in the universe and like 100000000000 billion tyranids. You can have the very best things in super sliced bread but if you're outnumbered 1000 to 1 you will lose.
meh, you forget the amazing tau fire power and they aren't fools you know
tau would know to take down the synapse creatures first

and who knows, maybe they would be able to take out the norn queen before they even make planet fall

the nids 100000000..... billions wouldn't count for as much against the tau armada
Tau would be the FIRST to die, waaaaay before the Imperium, not matter how good their firepower is, when your enemies outnumber blades of grass you are screwed unless you have some amazing abilities (IE. Gods which can manifest themselves)
You forget their amazing assimilating abilities. Perhaps the Nids could become some workers or the like.
The first to die would be the eldar. They take too much responisibilty.
How can Tau get Tyranids to work for them?

All 'nids want to do is to devour all life, apart from themselves.

Tau = Life

Thus

Tau = Dead
 

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As a Deamonhunter AND Chaos Player, as well as collector of orks, I'm going to have to say that My personal Opinion is that Chaos will win. Here are my arguements for this:
1)They taint almost any race to their cause, and have the same powers as Space marines, a well as deamonic blessings.
2)They are generally easy to ally together, as the Gods will easily forget petty rivalries in pursuit of a greater reward, as will lords.
3)Having played against: Imperial Gaurd; Witch hunters; Tau; Orks; Necrons; Space Marines and Eldar with my Chaos army and won all but one match, I must draw the conclusion that Chaos are superior.

That is my Completely objective Response.

Fanboy Response: A radical Deaonhunters Breakaway group assasinate the Emporor and Usurp the Golden Throne because they're bored, and go on to rule the galaxy in alliegiance with the other sects of radical Ordo's.
 

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Tyranids: One theory states that they came to this galaxy and are moving through it as swiftly as possible because they're running from something. If that something catches up then they're finished. Though there's also the "Just a scouting force" theory. Ofcourse, should they win they would then proceed to leave our galaxy for good. I don't really think it's they're idea of a "victory". Of course if they continue to evolve at such a huge rate they'll eventually become capable of more advanced intelligence, leaving ever piece of biomass in the galaxy with a warp presence... Let's not think about that.

Orks: Too dumb. Eventually they would destroy all LOCAL opposition, then turn on each other out of bordom, until all their numbers were confined to a smaller area where they could be wiped out in a single/handful of strikes... That or the nids get them.

Necrontyr: If the Void Dragon really is on Mars, and it really is waking up, then coupled with the deciever's cunning and their resilience, the imperium would be left without loyal Adeptus Mechanicus support and would be in serious trouble, as would the rest of the galaxy were they to take Terra and have a crack at the webway gate in the Golden Throne. Then again, they may just spark the starchild prophecy, in which case, well, see below.

Imperium: Sceeeeeeerewed, unless the star child prophecy kicks in. The Emperor's compassion, love and general niceness which he cast aside during the battle with Horus all rushing back to give humanity a big hug. And a swift kick in the jaw to anything else. Combine this with several trillion followers and he's going to be the single most powerful god ever to have existed. Chaos is through.

The Tau: ... you're kidding, right? They have no understanding of the universe, hence no understanding of their foes, hence Chaos will slap them silly.

The Eldar: Given that they PLAN on all dying in one final battle for the sole purpose of killing Slannesh, I wish them every luck winning in the long run.

Dark Eldar: Even if they somehow won, they'd then have no more souls to offer Slannesh and he'd start taking their's. They're doomed to fail.

Chaos: All the enemies of the Ruinous Powers could be lying face down in their own blood, the galaxy could be perfect pandemonium and the inevitable happens:
Tzeench starts backstabbign folk for the sake of it, Hell he'd probably backstab HIMSELF if he got too bored.
Khorne would try and murder everything, locking the galaxy in an endless war and maybe even allowing other powers to rise just for a challenge.
Slannesh... Well if the Eldar didn't get him he'll just try and make "Soemthing different" happen to allow him to experience new things, so that would never end well.
Nurgle would sit around waiting for it all to fall apart. Failing that, he'd MAKE it fall apart.
All this depends on the Necrons not succeeding with their plan to sever the Warp form the Matterium.

painfull2006 said:
the nids 100000000..... billions wouldn't count for as much against the tau armada
The Hive Fleet wold extent those freaky tentacle things, eat their way through the hull, start sending a force through and then the Tau would be stuck fighting a melee opponent in a confined space... The kroot wouldn't be able to do jack shit before you think about their support.
 

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Triple G said:
THEY CAN DIE. I hate it when people start saying that Necs are immortals, what are you, retarded?
No need for that.

They are immortal, but not un-killable. Immortal simply means that they never die of age, which is true.
 

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stinkychops said:
Hmm, I suppose the Tau. I always had a soft spot for the emporer though.

Although aren't the necrons invincible?
Then tyranid have never lost a planet?
The Tau have crap all people, it's mentioned in the Ladt Chancers series that on a hive world there is (possibly) more people than their entire species.


Most likely Necrons. Sheer power, and almost invincibility could make them win. Though Tyranids come a close second and orks a close third, if they could all gang up. It'd be an interesting thing to see who wins, as a species fighting together they each have a real possibility of winning, everyone else is fucked, whether it be by numbers or lack of technology they each have weaknesses that wouldn't let them survive in a Total War.
Danny Ocean said:
Triple G said:
THEY CAN DIE. I hate it when people start saying that Necs are immortals, what are you, retarded?
No need for that.

They are immortal, but not un-killable. Immortal simply means that they never die of age, which is true.
They are semi-immortal. Guardsmen can't match them if theres like more than 5 Necrons, and they would eventually over-run most enemies, through numbers and power. Through basic definition they could be considered immortal, but I can see how you think thinking they are immortal is wrong. And a good point was made, they can live forever if they don't fight anyone.
 

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KING BOB 2896 said:
If this has been done before I'm sorry.

If the fighting in the Warhammer 40K universe finally came to a close who do you think would be the overall victor?
Me.
 

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If you're talking about the worldwide events where players decide the outcomes of the large scale wars based on a point system and what armies they play as.

The Space Marines or the Chaos because they always win
 

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avykins said:
No they would not. Lets go through the races shall we.
Humans - Chaos main battery.
Tau - Very minimal effect on the warp. Plus small numbers.
Eldar - Strong effect on the warp but take steps to limit it. Plus small numbers.
Dark Eldar - Offer up mainly human souls to feed Slaanesh. No humans and Slaaney comes hunting for them.
Necrons - No effect on the warp.
Ork - No effect on the warp.
'Nids - No effect on the warp.
Nids have a huge effect on the warp ever heard of the shadow of the hive mind, or zoeneropes (yes i know the spelling is very wrong)

The Eldar have a gigantic effect on the warp after all they single handedly created the eye of terror and slannesh in 1 move that wiped out most of there species.

And read the new fluff on alpha legion about the cabal which sas that choas wouldnt be screwed nowadays although if horus had won the heresy they would of been destroyed within 2 generations
 

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I'm in for the Tyranids to win. Despite the massive firepower of all the other races, nothing really comes close to eradicating the Tyranid as a whole. Sure they can take on individual hive fleets and bring them down, but really its not at their loss if even one tendril escapes. The only real way of bringing them down if denying resources, but this just slows them down. Ok so there are the Necrons but the Tryanids make sure not to go anywhere near those Tomb Planets. Only viable way i can see the tyranids actually being destroyed is if the Necrons actively go after the Tyranids. Since they aren't able to absorb the material the Necrons are constructed with and since the Necrons just build themselves back up against then yeah Tyranids are down. Though this hasn't happened before and I can't see any viable reason for them attacking the Tryanids since they leave their planet alone. :)
 

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The Eldar lost their most powerful psycher Eldrad Ulthran so are pretty much crippled. The chaos Gods stand a good chance simply because they control space marines, dark eldar along with their own creatures. orks will never join forces to mount a full scale assault. Necrons are too few in number. Tau are too young compared to the other races. Nids stand a good chance, unless the imperium score a few good victories. So long as humanity remains united, I'd say they could win.
 

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I never knew Tyranids kinda negated the warp...that changes everything.


The squats will unleash their hidden empire from the next galaxy and slaughter everyone!