If they're coming from the past post op, but if from the future pre op. Unless the are drowning in a whirlpool, that it's the opposite. Unless the whirlpool is upside down and turning counter clockwise.Evil Smurf said:
Why are men attracted to lesbians?
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The whirlpool needs to be going at 88 miles an hour for time travel to work.White Lightning said:
Two reasons, actually.
First, because males are hard-coded to mate with as many partners as possible in order to ensure his genetic continuity. Without a stable relationship creating that, and barring other genetic "abnormalities" (from a purely genetic standpoint, I mean no offense to anyone), the male is predisposed to perceive all females as potential mating partners. Seeing two females obviously interested in mating hits both of those predispositions, regardless of their potential interest in him.
Secondly, because they aren't likely going to be interested in him. This is the prime example of the expressions "the forbidden fruit tastes all the sweeter", and "a hard-fought battle makes the greatest victory". All humans are predisposed to want things more when told they cannot have it, and most humans relish a challenge regardless of any chance for success.
Also, because porn is the boldest expression of pure fantasy, involving often very unlikely scenarios played out for the sole purpose of us (meaning all humans) indulging in the realms of possibility. The fact that these scenarios are themselves typically extremely private affairs makes it all the morecompelling titillating without necessarily being "good" from any artistic or sexual standpoint, and regardless of its specific characters.
First, because males are hard-coded to mate with as many partners as possible in order to ensure his genetic continuity. Without a stable relationship creating that, and barring other genetic "abnormalities" (from a purely genetic standpoint, I mean no offense to anyone), the male is predisposed to perceive all females as potential mating partners. Seeing two females obviously interested in mating hits both of those predispositions, regardless of their potential interest in him.
Secondly, because they aren't likely going to be interested in him. This is the prime example of the expressions "the forbidden fruit tastes all the sweeter", and "a hard-fought battle makes the greatest victory". All humans are predisposed to want things more when told they cannot have it, and most humans relish a challenge regardless of any chance for success.
Also, because porn is the boldest expression of pure fantasy, involving often very unlikely scenarios played out for the sole purpose of us (meaning all humans) indulging in the realms of possibility. The fact that these scenarios are themselves typically extremely private affairs makes it all the more
there are a lot of women who enjoy man on man for the same reasons i guess. it must be something to do with fantasy or maybe a person of the same sex feels awkward to them.
Speaking as a female, I have watched all sorts of porn, but generally not lesbian porn. Unfortunately, some to most male roles in porn have the man abusing the woman, slapping her ass and/or being like "Who's your Daddy?" with every thrust. That turns me right off. And the stuff that isn't violent is all the same. "Do a minute and a half in one position, then switch it up to the next position, and the man never comes inside the woman, because we have to tell the trolls watching this stuff when to finish beating off and fetishize the man ejaculating on the woman's ass." Such a turnoff. Really.
Male/male porn is not made for women, and has a lot of this same aesthetic, which is why women are into Yaoi. It's the nearest you can get to sex with no gender politics: two people treat each other as equals and one is not in a position over the other (although, to be honest, I don't like the Yaoi where one character stalks and browbeats another into a relationship, even if the second one ends up enjoying it later. Stalking and sexual harassment is still that no matter how much one character ends up enjoying it later. And the weeping and crying and "OW! It HURTS!" make me want to vomit when it occurs in Yaoi as well (yes, it's a trope). It makes me want to scream "You're doing it wrong!"
Ahem. Anyhow, as I was saying, homosexual male porn is not made for women. Lesbian porn *is* made for men, as far as I can tell. Back some while ago, in the 80's, when I first started seeing this stuff, I heard women were making porn for women- much more fantasy-based than male porn and with no external cumshots. I'd like to see that and see what it's like, but I have never encountered any. That's the problem with the whole porn industry- it's based around men and what they want- not women. And while I won't comment that romance is porn for women, if you read it, you can see what women want in their erotic fantasies. Generally, it's a man who accepts them for who they are, and doesn't try to change them for himself, and who finds them hot and who they find hot and attractive in return. It doesn't mean someone conventionally attractive, or even a handsome bugger with one attractively placed scar. It can be a geek who likes the same stuff we do and doesn't put us down for it, a game geek who doesn't reduce women to "Make me a sammich, woman, and then show me your tits!" But is more like, "Wow! You like playing Call of Duty? So do I! Let's play some now..." (if you have time and the opportunity to do so).
Male/male porn is not made for women, and has a lot of this same aesthetic, which is why women are into Yaoi. It's the nearest you can get to sex with no gender politics: two people treat each other as equals and one is not in a position over the other (although, to be honest, I don't like the Yaoi where one character stalks and browbeats another into a relationship, even if the second one ends up enjoying it later. Stalking and sexual harassment is still that no matter how much one character ends up enjoying it later. And the weeping and crying and "OW! It HURTS!" make me want to vomit when it occurs in Yaoi as well (yes, it's a trope). It makes me want to scream "You're doing it wrong!"
Ahem. Anyhow, as I was saying, homosexual male porn is not made for women. Lesbian porn *is* made for men, as far as I can tell. Back some while ago, in the 80's, when I first started seeing this stuff, I heard women were making porn for women- much more fantasy-based than male porn and with no external cumshots. I'd like to see that and see what it's like, but I have never encountered any. That's the problem with the whole porn industry- it's based around men and what they want- not women. And while I won't comment that romance is porn for women, if you read it, you can see what women want in their erotic fantasies. Generally, it's a man who accepts them for who they are, and doesn't try to change them for himself, and who finds them hot and who they find hot and attractive in return. It doesn't mean someone conventionally attractive, or even a handsome bugger with one attractively placed scar. It can be a geek who likes the same stuff we do and doesn't put us down for it, a game geek who doesn't reduce women to "Make me a sammich, woman, and then show me your tits!" But is more like, "Wow! You like playing Call of Duty? So do I! Let's play some now..." (if you have time and the opportunity to do so).
What about deux cocks? Does the gay polarity cancel each other out or is that just gay infinity?NoeL said:
Which then... oh you get the point. No it isn't.
Watching 2 cocks is 'teh gay'.
And yeah it's fetishizing, not 'actual lesbian or gay' couples or how they make love. It's really kind of geared toward straight men. Like the Yaoi portion of Japanese Manga fetishizes gay couples for women.
See the parallel?
Why is this a thread? Why do people feel the need to make threads for which the answers are in the title? This isn't discussion this is just a senseless question. It's like me making a thread as to why people like mustard, hate the stuff myself, but I'm not all "Why do people like it, I can't understand it! It's too much for me to think of an answer on my own!"
Now I like lesbian porn, but a lot of it is...really badly filmed and"acted". Chew the scenery a bit in porn of course, but they end up eating it, digesting and then shitting it out in most lesbian scenes to the point where I'm just laughing at how over the top it is and it detracts from the enjoyment, you gotta learn when to pull it back. No, what you want is good "acting" coupled with squirting dildos. All the thrills and spills(ba dum tsh) of boy on girl porn with none of the negatives!
The Japanese porn industry also has a much "friendlier" tone, with the girl and boy generally treating each other as equals, it tends to be a lot more sensual and a bit less like the girls are treated as fuck-meat (or as much as they can be, we are talking about porn here). Obviously there are certain areas that are a bit more...sinister, but it seems more "choreographed" and nowhere near as aggressive as your average western porn, even when it is a "forced" scenario.
Now I like lesbian porn, but a lot of it is...really badly filmed and"acted". Chew the scenery a bit in porn of course, but they end up eating it, digesting and then shitting it out in most lesbian scenes to the point where I'm just laughing at how over the top it is and it detracts from the enjoyment, you gotta learn when to pull it back. No, what you want is good "acting" coupled with squirting dildos. All the thrills and spills(ba dum tsh) of boy on girl porn with none of the negatives!
I think that's just bad camera work. A lot of camera men really don't find a lot of pride in their work or don't think about what their audience does or doesn't want to see. If I was a porn director, you'd not be finding any of those crappy missionary man crack shots in MY movies! And woe betide any camera man that intentionally films a mans face. I don't wanna see that shit, men aren't particularly nice to look at, especially your average hairy porn meathead, and especially when I'm having a shifty and they show me a mans O face! The penis is unavoidable but for gods sake don't show more of the man than you need to. Of course there's straight porn for gay guys, but that's a whole other area.GonzoGamer said:
Yeah a lot of male/female porn the men really don't treat the women very nicely...I mean obviously if the "story" calls for it, and the girl is comfortable with it, but a lot of the time you can see that they're really not just acting and the guy is actually abusing her. Seems to be the best directors are female, best cinematography and editing, and the girls are generally treated very well: Burning Angel being a good example, all the girls enjoy their work and are good friends outside of work.LadyRhian said:
The Japanese porn industry also has a much "friendlier" tone, with the girl and boy generally treating each other as equals, it tends to be a lot more sensual and a bit less like the girls are treated as fuck-meat (or as much as they can be, we are talking about porn here). Obviously there are certain areas that are a bit more...sinister, but it seems more "choreographed" and nowhere near as aggressive as your average western porn, even when it is a "forced" scenario.
I would say it's also the fact that with 2 women, everything you are looking at is something you find sexually appealing. You aren't suddenly being shown an extreme closeup of some guys junk, instead of, you know, the woman you find attractive. No matter what angle or position or whatever, the camera is always being pointed at a naked woman, which for a straight guy, is appealing.
That's my feelings on it anyway.
That's my feelings on it anyway.
Your avatar is perfect for that comment. Absolutely perfect.neonit said:
Also, I like that phrasing so much I'm going to blatantly steal it for future recollection.
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I've never liked seeing penises, fellatio, or the act of penetration in my pornography. I stuck with soft core for a really long time, and when I ventured into anything harder, it was always lesbian. Granted, I have no problems with my own male genitalia, I just think other men's are gross to look at. Believe it or not, I actually suspected I might be gay for much of my life due to my inexperience with women, but somehow I never considered this little issue where I found all men disgusting. Basically, the advantage is getting to see two women have sex without those ugly, ugly men getting in the way.
Lesbian porn is great, but I get a little bored by it. I want to see a girl get a good dicking and a strap-on just doesn't cut it.
I could watch lesbian porn as simple entertainment in the background of doing other things. Like a poker night with the guys or something. Which has happened before. At my University co-ed dorm lounge. Most of the girls weren't very impressed with us. None of them were prudish, though.
I could watch lesbian porn as simple entertainment in the background of doing other things. Like a poker night with the guys or something. Which has happened before. At my University co-ed dorm lounge. Most of the girls weren't very impressed with us. None of them were prudish, though.
Weird thread, but okay.
It's more to do with the fact that a good female body is just wonderful to look at for a lot of guys. Right, that's my explanation for the day. =P
It's more to do with the fact that a good female body is just wonderful to look at for a lot of guys. Right, that's my explanation for the day. =P
I'd say it's because the Male Straight brain is designed to not be appeased by a penis, so if you remove that and simply have another woman with large breasts doing similar acts to what straight men do it's all the better.
Personally I have no care, an extra two breasts is good n' all (because breasts, I'd say that even if I were homosexual) but it's not something I find amazingly attractive.
I also love the female figure much more than the male (which is just a triangle with cushions or flatness instead of breasts), so there's that.
Personally I have no care, an extra two breasts is good n' all (because breasts, I'd say that even if I were homosexual) but it's not something I find amazingly attractive.
I also love the female figure much more than the male (which is just a triangle with cushions or flatness instead of breasts), so there's that.
I view myself as asexual most of the time, but I assume it's because of some chemical reaction in our brain.
Now, if you were to get Ariana Grande cloned and have them bang... oh, the things I'd do for you. (LET A MAN DREAM, IT'S THIS OR SHORT LEATHER JACKETS THAT CUT OFF AT THE SHOULDER-BLADES).
Now, if you were to get Ariana Grande cloned and have them bang... oh, the things I'd do for you. (LET A MAN DREAM, IT'S THIS OR SHORT LEATHER JACKETS THAT CUT OFF AT THE SHOULDER-BLADES).
I think this vid isn't too explicit for me to link, I find it funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJvYprLDcRs
And this one too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeC58y-mgPw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJvYprLDcRs
And this one too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeC58y-mgPw
My girlfriend does. She can't get enough yaoi and male/male fanfics. I don't know what the fuck it is about them.rhizhim said:
This is really quite simple, and it has nothing to do with the elaborate, crazy theories people keep bringing up, especially the idiotic "men are inherently lazy and wish they didn't need to put effort into sex" or "men are all insecure and demand women not be for their amusement" crap that some people are throwing around.
If you are a straight man, and I am, you find an attractive woman hot. You find an attractive woman doing sexual things hot. Thus, multiple attractive women doing sexual things is also hot. It has nothing to do with insecurity or men being natural jackasses who want to "convert" lesbians or any of the other ridiculous garbage people come up with, it's not about us being sleezy, awful bastards, it's about the fact that we naturally find attractive women doing sexual things appealing. Who it's with doesn't matter. The notion that it has anything to do with whether a lesbian woman would sleep us is silly - I don't watch porn as some sort of "pretend I'm there" escape, that's what my imagination would be used for. I watch porn to see something happening, not to feel involved.
Every time I see this discussion online I get really unsettled by how many people (of all genders and orientations) try to explain it away in terms that declare straight men to be really awful people.
If you are a straight man, and I am, you find an attractive woman hot. You find an attractive woman doing sexual things hot. Thus, multiple attractive women doing sexual things is also hot. It has nothing to do with insecurity or men being natural jackasses who want to "convert" lesbians or any of the other ridiculous garbage people come up with, it's not about us being sleezy, awful bastards, it's about the fact that we naturally find attractive women doing sexual things appealing. Who it's with doesn't matter. The notion that it has anything to do with whether a lesbian woman would sleep us is silly - I don't watch porn as some sort of "pretend I'm there" escape, that's what my imagination would be used for. I watch porn to see something happening, not to feel involved.
Every time I see this discussion online I get really unsettled by how many people (of all genders and orientations) try to explain it away in terms that declare straight men to be really awful people.
Same here but it does have me wondering just how many here are Straight compared to those like me who might be Bisexual/Gay/lesbian.Leemaster777 said:
I still love me some guy on girl action but also some guy on guy but it has to be specific for both really for my tastes.