Why are you hetero or homosexual?...
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I have a different thought on that. I've heard several times that when a fetus is devoloping at the physical level they're all female. So whatever it is that occurs to define the physical gender aspect can somehow be off and that it also controls sexual orientation somehow. I've also heard that "orientation" isn't as black and white as some would prefer to believe. I agree with that second part for reasons I won't get into.Dertex said:
I'm only attracted to females of the species. That's just how it is. This is kinda like asking people why they're the height they are.
This could be interesting for youJCBFGD said:
http://www.mygenes.co.nz/download.htm
I found this while investigating that topic. That people can change their sexual preferences over time suggest it's at least as much a choice as a trait. I agree with you except that I consider bi/homosexuality as more of a potential than a real trait, since the extent of this trait is not due to the person's gene but to the mother's health.
Even someone who had a perfectly healthy mother can choose (or stumble on) a gay relationship. Which goes to show that external influences after birth are a lot more important than most likes to think apparently.
As someone who gradually liberated himself from any preconception on his own sexuality I feel the trauma of sexualy confused people is the pure accidental result of peer pressure. Same for everyone who believes such an overwhelmingly important part of someone's life just got to be beyond external influences and can only change in pain, peer pressure.
My position about this makes me think I'm like an atheist arguing against believers, just here I argue against the very existence of "sexual orientation".
ahhhh trick question, I get it. but seriously, never made a choice about the people I'm sexually attracted to. If I were to realize I was bisexual and not just attracted to women, that wouldn't be something I had control over. Can't answer a 'why' question about it, really.
Contrary to popular belief, i don't believe Sexuality is 'encoded' or we are 'born with it'...I'm sorry, but to me, that is right up there with saying 'god made me do it'. Sexuality, atleast to me, is determined by a persons nurture as is most other things. Ok, naturally SOME things are passed through genetics, not denying that, but Sexuality ain't one of them. Sexuality is a choice, that simple.
HOWEVER, I am going to say one thing unless somebody quotes me out of context: There is nothing wrong with choosing homosexuality, Bisexuality, Pansexuality or Asexuality over Heterosexuality. I think as long as both partners consent, then it's fine no matter if the partner is the same gender as you or the opposite. Nobody is harmed, so they are perfectly fine to me and i have no issues. Hell, the ancient Greeks did it and they turned out to be one of the greatest civilizations ever to grace our planet, so yeah. Got no problem with anyone's choice of sexuality.
HOWEVER, I am going to say one thing unless somebody quotes me out of context: There is nothing wrong with choosing homosexuality, Bisexuality, Pansexuality or Asexuality over Heterosexuality. I think as long as both partners consent, then it's fine no matter if the partner is the same gender as you or the opposite. Nobody is harmed, so they are perfectly fine to me and i have no issues. Hell, the ancient Greeks did it and they turned out to be one of the greatest civilizations ever to grace our planet, so yeah. Got no problem with anyone's choice of sexuality.
Who you're attracted to is up to each individual's taste, there is no rhyme or reason it just is. I am hetero and have never been attracted to nor felt a sexual desire for the same gender, but that's just me. everyone is entitled to whatever they feel makes them happy.
Hetero, I've never been attracted to men.. just haven't.
Nothing wrong with homosexual, just not my cup o' tea
Nothing wrong with homosexual, just not my cup o' tea
This kinda reminds me of when people say Evolution is a belief system.Infernai said:
It's really odd to me.
Because how would folks feel if someone just said one day "Arithmetic is a belief system, frankly I don't think division works that way."
Wouldn't that come across as odd? Kinda stupid, maybe crazy?
There is so little evidence to support sexuality as a choice that I find it so odd that anyone could say it without following it up with "I've done absolutely no research into the topic."
At least then I can read it and say "Well I suppose if I was just randomly making up theories about how the world works based on my own personal feelings I could come up with crazier things to say."
Otherwise I'm just left stumped.
There is a really long blurb about why this is a dangerous view even if you personally don't use it to hurt people, but this question gets brought up on these forums about once every three days so its obviously a waste of time.
Apparently nobody has access to case studies anymore. If only there was some interconnected series of computers where this sort of thing could be answered.
I'll see if Al Gore is around for some help on the problem.
When did you study it? I finished up my Degree 2 years ago, there was 0 debate on the topic.Cpt.Muddles said:
Nature decides the range of possible outcomes for any one person, nurture decides where on that range you end up.
So any person is genetically limited to a certain range of heights (for instance) and their nutrition will decide where in that range of heights they end up.
Sexuality appears to be something that, at best, is decided during gestation. So nurture does the work while in the womb, but nature takes over once ejected. Too many genetic markers and actions early on in life correlate with sexuality post puberty for it to be influenced strongly (or in any statistically significant way) by post-birth nurture.
Unless we are also going to argue that the direction your hair twists is nurture as well?
I probably shouldn't say argue, I don't really plan to come back to the thread
. There will be a new one on the same subject in 48 hours anyways.Hetero, cause I like tits
On a more serious note, sexuality isn't much of a choice, just a complex combination of nature and nurture circumstances. I'm not attracted to men, I'm attracted to women, and that's the end of it. None of them are "right" or "wrong" and only a fool would think otherwise
On a more serious note, sexuality isn't much of a choice, just a complex combination of nature and nurture circumstances. I'm not attracted to men, I'm attracted to women, and that's the end of it. None of them are "right" or "wrong" and only a fool would think otherwise
Well, I cannot explain why i am not attracted to men (I am a man myself.. or boy. 19 yo, you decide) but I can definately tell you that I am not.TheSolemnHypnotic said:
I have actually tried to imagine myself being romantically engaged with another boy, but there was really nothing compelling in the thought. None at all.
On the off chance that I start to sound creepy or too personal I apologize, but I saw a picture of you, OP, in another thread, and you seem like a really pretty girl, I was surprised to read that you have no experience at all with love/sex/relationships. But with no experience at all, I don't really think you can comprehend the full extend of sexuality or attraction to another person. Not to belittle you at all, but I do think that it is rather impossible to grasp the entirety of your own sexuality if you have never actually been intimate with another person.
Oh, and as a short answer to the original question: I really don't like the idea of messing with a naked dude... It does not turn me on. At all. I know my preferences.
I know for me: I believe that the only difference between a romantic relationship and a platonic one is sex. I am not sexually attracted to men, only women. therefore, there is no reason for me to be in a romantic relationship with a man. For me, it's that simple.TheSolemnHypnotic said:Please read. How is it that people are capable of just sticking to one gender of people? I understand that we need some people to reproduce but, idk. If you were in a romantic relationship with some one but met some one else of the same/opposite gender who made you feel 100,000,000 times better/more loved/more cared for, you wouldn't consider them an option based on what's in their pants? Gender is a very flexible thing (feminine characteristics found in males, vice versa). Or do you think this theory is the result of being alone for so long and once I engage in socionormative behaviors I'll be able to see in more black and white than gray?
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Edit: No, I've never been in a romantic relationship. [I know nothing about sex].
Edit II: Why do people keep thinking I said sexuality is a choice? If you get that impression I clearly need to have my post beta'd.
Edit III: Turn your Auto-Defense off! I'm not trying to convert everyone into a bisexual.
Edit IV: Is there a way to turn the anger off in here?
Edit V: I KNOW FOR MOST PEOPLE SEXUALITY IS NOT A CHOICE.
Edit VI: There is no way I am the only 16-year-old who has never been in a relationship.
As for your last edit, no you're not the only 16 yr old who hasn't ever had a relationship. I knew several college freshmen who had never had a relationship. In fact over 3/4 of my friends at college had never had a relationship b4 they went to college. don't worry about it.
Well, thank you for the compliment (it wasn't creepy). I agree, because I haven't engaged in the subject, it is probably best to not worry about it since my view is a bit narrowed. Thank you for sharing.Dingo John said:
