Why do people hate the Wii.

[DemonI81]

third party developers continue to make mainstream games and Nintendo still makes the games that made people like them to begin with, So why do so many people hate the Wii, its current success and feel the need to invalidate its status as a gaming platform.

I sold my Wii after it collecting dust for 3 months after I bought my 360. The reason I sold it and the reason, I think, most people dislike it, is because it's very "kiddie". It just has a very cartoony/kiddie feel to it. It's also missing important features. No hard drive to store all the games you buy from the Wii store. No headset or chat capabilities making online play insanely annoying for team based games. HDTVs are dropping so rapidly in price everyone's got one and the Wii graphics, while good, are just nowhere near the other consoles. Devs have to deal with a whole new control scheme that they, from interviews I've read, find annoying.
I do have to say, the Wii is great fun. It's fun for parties though, not really for 1 person. 4 people playing Tiger Woods, all swinging the Wiimotes around.... it was a great time. I don't hang out with 3 other people often though, schedules are too different. This is another reason I sold it.
I don't think people "hate" the Wii, I just think people get caught up in the whole console war thing. It's like Chevy vs. Ford, people get all worked up for no good reason and don't mean to take it as far as they usually do.

 

[vesavius]

How else are we going to broaden the audience for Video Games?

You see... I don't care if we do or don't broaden the market for video games, it measn nothing to me. I don't want challenge and in depth gameplay thrown out for a casual lite approach that exists only to maximise the potentiol demographic for maximum profiteering to line the pocket of a corperation.

Why would I? I don't own shares in any of these companies, so them upping the units they sell means little to me tbh.

It just seems to me that the best games were made when the market was relatively small.

Not attacking you, just the way I see it

 

[pantsoffdanceoff]

By the way, I believe 'Dolphin' was the codename of the Gamecube, and 'Revolution' of the Wii.

Oh yeah, it was. Some kind "Revolution" the Wii was. ahahahaa

How else are we supposed to advance our experience if you guys want to stick to cartidges?
*sheds a tear*

The cartridges were awesome, if they were broke you could just blow in them and voila! It was like the air you exhaled was magical.

 

[Mr0llivand3r]

before anyone spams my mailbox with retort upon retort telling me how i am wrong in every way, just know that i greatly appreciate the Wii and what's its doing for the video game world. I think it was a good call on Nintendo's end to modify their old ways...

... slightly.

people dis the Wii because it's just generally mediocre compared to the others.

low-quality graphics, half-assed controls (although they are incredibly intuitive), and only about 4 or 5 games worth buying.

it's just really hard to get into the games when they are either targeted towards an audience that is half your age, not difficult enough to find any real worth in playing, or too short to get even remotely involved.

i think that Nintendo's biggest flaw is that it keeps beating the dead horse of the Mario, Link, and Metroid franchises. Instead of designing new characters with new stories and worlds, they continue to crank out the same games over and over again with just a new coat of paint on each

 

[DethFan666]

It is child oriented.

 

[Jumplion]

How else are we going to broaden the audience for Video Games?

You see... I don't care if we do or don't broaden the market for video games, it measn nothing to me. I don't want challenge and in depth gameplay thrown out for a casual lite approach that exists only to maximise the potentiol demographic for maximum profiteering to line the pocket of a corperation.

Why would I? I don't own shares in any of these companies, so them upping the units they sell means little to me tbh.

It just seems to me that the best games were made when the market was relatively small.

Not attacking you, just the way I see it

But you see, those "casual" games where complexity is thrown out for simplicity, those games are almost always only for the Wii. It's a side-effect, it happens in the Film Industry as well as the Book and Music industry, but the thing is, there's still no shortage of deep complex games and most of those games are for the "hardcore" consoles.

It's a perfect balance, i'm telling you. The wii picks up new gamers which eventually go over to the more "hardcore" gamers to become elitists like us. This won't happen all the time, but it will happen alot.

 

[vesavius]

How else are we going to broaden the audience for Video Games?

You see... I don't care if we do or don't broaden the market for video games, it measn nothing to me. I don't want challenge and in depth gameplay thrown out for a casual lite approach that exists only to maximise the potentiol demographic for maximum profiteering to line the pocket of a corperation.

Why would I? I don't own shares in any of these companies, so them upping the units they sell means little to me tbh.

It just seems to me that the best games were made when the market was relatively small.

Not attacking you, just the way I see it

But you see, those "casual" games where complexity is thrown out for simplicity, those games are almost always only for the Wii. It's a side-effect, it happens in the Film Industry as well as the Book and Music industry, but the thing is, there's still no shortage of deep complex games and most of those games are for the "hardcore" consoles.

It's a perfect balance, i'm telling you. The wii picks up new gamers which eventually go over to the more "hardcore" gamers to become elitists like us. This won't happen all the time, but it will happen alot.

Thats fair enough, and I get your point, but...

(theres always a but right?)

My worry, and one of the reasons that the Wii rings warning bells that add to my wariness of it and what it represents, is that suuurre there are 2 'hardcore' consoles and 1 'casual' console this time round, Sony and MS were for sure caught out this time, we all know that, but now these two have seen themselves raped by Nintendo, will there be x3 'casual' consoles next time?

This is what worries me, and indeed concerns me for the future of games in general.

I think that the Wii will dictate the future console market... I mean, look at PS Home. It's a horrible ghetto of adverts and casual games. These guys are led ONLY by the need to generate revenue, nothing else, and right now the Wii is pulling more in right?

I'm not saying anything for sure, or being a prophet of doom, but like I say warning bells are ringing.

 

[MURPHYCHACHO]

Why am I getting fed up with the Wii?

Because every single time I go shopping for new games, I can't find a single Wii title that interests me even a little bit. They're all either for little kids, based off of movies, gimmicky bullshit, or yet another spin-off of one of Nintendo's franchises. Nintendo said at E3 that they were going to make more games for casual gamers, but I didn't think that would be all they'd sell!

 

[DreamKing]

Why am I getting fed up with the Wii?

Because every single time I go shopping for new games, I can't find a single Wii title that interests me even a little bit. They're all either for little kids, based off of movies, gimmicky bullshit, or yet another spin-off of one of Nintendo's franchises. Nintendo said at E3 that they were going to make more games for casual gamers, but I didn't think that would be all they'd sell!

*cough* Mad World *cough* There's always Resident Evil: Umbrella Cronicles and House of the Dead 2 and 3. Don't forget that Ghost Squadron came out on the Wii. I also heard Resident Evil 4 was the best on the Wii.

 

[MURPHYCHACHO]

Why am I getting fed up with the Wii?

Because every single time I go shopping for new games, I can't find a single Wii title that interests me even a little bit. They're all either for little kids, based off of movies, gimmicky bullshit, or yet another spin-off of one of Nintendo's franchises. Nintendo said at E3 that they were going to make more games for casual gamers, but I didn't think that would be all they'd sell!

*cough* Mad World *cough* There's always Resident Evil: Umbrella Cronicles and House of the Dead 2 and 3. Don't forget that Ghost Squadron came out on the Wii. I also heard Resident Evil 4 was the best on the Wii.

Eh. I already own most of those on other consoles, and the others I'm not interested in.

 

[Amarok]

In my mind, the Wii is a casual console and really, has been marketed as such. These hardcore gamers who complain about the Wii being too casual and childlike are just being a bit odd, really.

I find the Wii to be great fun when played with my family, older and younger. It is a casual experience, if I want deeper games, I'll go on my PC!

 

[Ace of Spades]

The thing about Nintendo is that they have one release for each of their major franchises per console. I haven't played anything new on my Wii in months.

 

[Incompl te]

I believe it's because of the lack of "hardcore" games available. From personal experience i find that it's more fun with another person/s as the competitive side makes the experience more enjoyable. Single player on many games just gets dull after prolonged periods.

 

[vesavius]

I think the wii doesn't pour blood and sweat testosterone so most "hardcore" gamers think it's not cool. It is my favorite out of all the others because it doesn't have the stupid fratboys go crazy over it or nerdy losers who never seen a real woman want to spend their time with it they have WoW for that

wow easy... no need to get all insulting just because someone prefers the games on their system to yours

My GF loves gaming on my 360, as I am sure thousands of girls do, and she's not a frat boy or nerdy loser, and I'm SURE she has seen a real woman... No sure though what that does to your deliberitly narrow and offensive opinion.

Btw, her and my sister also play WoW, which I don't get personally, but there ya go.

Ignorant stereotypes eh? Gotta love 'em.

 

[Sensenmann]

Shovelware, shovelware, shovelware, thats all that comes out, with the exeption of some of the early titles, the games have sucked

 

[Asehujiko]

As for Virtual Console, not everybody likes piracy.

Everybody exept nintendo has the decency of making games they don't plan on selling anymore free to the public or atleast reduce the price and drm. See abandonia.com for the first category and gog.com for the second. nintendo however gives you a region locked console specific ripoff that may or may not have it's control scheme mangled in order to make the wiimote appear as a useful addition.

Next up, their outright hatred for indie developers and the homebrew community. As a modder for pc games, i find myself in the group of people who would get an automatic "fuck off" when i would try to apply for a job as anything other then cleaner.

Then there's their completely anal pricing system. Say, you make a flash app that basicly goes "stand like this and press "next"" and ship it with a plastic board with some very basic pressure sensors glued beneath it. how much would that cost? 10 bucks? 15 bucks, nay, wiifit currently goes for $120 overe here.

 

[mipegg]

Most of the time it seems like the sort of gamers who call themselves 'hardcore' and like to think that twiddling their thumbs alot seems to be you cool/awesome/etc. Theres also a bit of a 'fuck nintendo' bandwagon going around, noone seems to notice that, if you dont like the games dont buy them?

I dont hate the wii, far from it, i absolutely love it. At a party nothing beats wii sports when your slightly tipsy