Why do people think it's ok to pirate games?
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You like drawing. You draw a copy of a famous painting worth $1M and hang it on your wall. You just stole $1M.Cody211282 said:
You like cooking. You look up on the web and find the recipe for the 300$ steak from the restaurant next door. You cook it. You just stole 300$.
You like digital data. You look on the web and you find a digital copy of a 60$ game. You copy it to your pc. You just stole 60$.
Same situation on the 3 cases, yet people only find something wrong with the third, why?
Mainly its also due to the fact that it is very rare to pirate a game that you would otherwise buy, on the rare occasion I have pirated a game it has mainly been when there was no real chance of me buying it, or while i had a desire to see what it was like, I certainly didn't have the money to shell out on it. If I really like a game however I'll pay money for it, the same as I would with music I really like!
The idea behind it is that piracy is only stealing on the basis that you recieved a copy of the game (a copy that took 0 dollers to copy/paste to you)and took away a "potential sale" from the developer. The arguement is that if i pirate a game i WAS NEVER EVER going to buy anyway i have not taken a potential sale away. The same amount of people still have the game. I would never pirate a game i was willing to pay money for. I do however own emulators for games that are 10 years old or that i already own just for fun.Cody211282 said:
Second hand game selling is worse economically that piracy. A game shop selling a game second hand takes a "potential sale" away from the developer as selling a returned game gives 0 dollers to the developers, it has already been baught once and the money given to them on tha first occasion. In this case however not only to the developers miss a potential sale but the shop itself makes money from the same item twice.
I dont really understand how, if i never intended to buy this game purely because i didnt like it enough to do so, pirating it because its an "ok" game is such a bad thing. Rhere
The only thing I can think of that I don't think anybody has said is they might be incredibly psyched up waiting for a game (can't wait to play), and when it comes out they haven't got enough money or it might of went out of stock. The mind set usually there is angry or upset and if they know how to download games then they can fill up that emptiness and feel happy about it.
The others are usually
- Games at unreasonable prices
- Can't afford it
- DRM sucks ass
- Don't care mind set (also easier)
- Game broke (not buying another)
- Heard bad things about it
- Company's making dick moves
Not great excuses but sometimes they fit the bill, especially the DRM one, no matter what you say it's always bullshit.
The others are usually
- Games at unreasonable prices
- Can't afford it
- DRM sucks ass
- Don't care mind set (also easier)
- Game broke (not buying another)
- Heard bad things about it
- Company's making dick moves
Not great excuses but sometimes they fit the bill, especially the DRM one, no matter what you say it's always bullshit.
Wait a minute. People pirate because they are pissed of with DRM's. And game companies include DRM's because of pirates. Does anyone else see a very long, painful cycle here?
No, but it's hurting you. Pirates that pirate with that intention cause the game to have DRM protection, and then more people pirate that game because they are pissed off with the DRM. This is what starts the meltdown.HotFezz8 said:
Now now lets not bring real people into this especially not one that were victims of horrible parenting.Cody211282 said:
Plus its a well known fact that for prostitutes it is a hazard of the job. They are well aware it can happen and (the one who arnt forced into it), choose to do this of their own accord.
A while back I pirated Mass Effect 1 and GTA IV just to see if they were worth the money.
They were good, So I went to town to buy them, Guess what? I only found a GTA IV(collector's edition) while ME1 was nowere to be found. When I get home and try GTA IV on PS3 it just freezes all the time.
I then searched on google for solutions and found a whole lot more people with the same problem, but no solutions, fixes or patches. I'm against pirating when you are just too cheap to buy a game, but things like these are pretty annoying as well.
They were good, So I went to town to buy them, Guess what? I only found a GTA IV(collector's edition) while ME1 was nowere to be found. When I get home and try GTA IV on PS3 it just freezes all the time.
I then searched on google for solutions and found a whole lot more people with the same problem, but no solutions, fixes or patches. I'm against pirating when you are just too cheap to buy a game, but things like these are pretty annoying as well.
Here are my two cents
As long as companies are (albeit inadvertedly) portraying the unlicensed obtaining of intellectual property as cool by misnomering it as Piracy there will be no end to it.
DRM is not an obstacle, it's a challenge
Copying is not a crime unless you make a profit from selling the copy and claiming it to be the original.
I've got a longer rant on the subject but I thought I should ease you into it.
As long as companies are (albeit inadvertedly) portraying the unlicensed obtaining of intellectual property as cool by misnomering it as Piracy there will be no end to it.
DRM is not an obstacle, it's a challenge
Copying is not a crime unless you make a profit from selling the copy and claiming it to be the original.
I've got a longer rant on the subject but I thought I should ease you into it.
If it weren't for piracy, gaming wouldn't be so widespread nowadays and would have a lot of less legit customers. I get an allergic reaction to the morally superior people who say people who pirate should be shot. I guess they never had a divx movie or an mp3 on their hard drives.
A lot of people who play pirate games are those who buy them afterwards if they like them. The best protection is MAKING A GOOD GAME, something what Ubisoft and EA will never understand. Those who play only pirated games and ignore the legit versions would never buy the original ones in the first place, no matter what game it is. Basically, piracy made much more good for the whole gaming industry than bad.
I've played WoW on private servers. I liked it, so I bought the original. It turned out to be a piece of crap not much long after, but eh, thanks to pirating, I bought an original game.
My friend downloaded a bunch of Blind Guardian mp3. He liked them a lot. So afterwards he bought a lot of original albums, shirts, went to concerts, etc. And many others like him as well.
My point is: piracy is underrated. It's wrong, yeah, but you're hypocrites, so I don't care. In Croatia, our games cost the same amount of money like in the USA, but we earn 3-4 times less on average. Some games are even more expensive in Croatia. So yeah, screw you.
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Oh yeah, I've never heard of renting a game, so I guess that can't be done in here.
A lot of people who play pirate games are those who buy them afterwards if they like them. The best protection is MAKING A GOOD GAME, something what Ubisoft and EA will never understand. Those who play only pirated games and ignore the legit versions would never buy the original ones in the first place, no matter what game it is. Basically, piracy made much more good for the whole gaming industry than bad.
I've played WoW on private servers. I liked it, so I bought the original. It turned out to be a piece of crap not much long after, but eh, thanks to pirating, I bought an original game.
My friend downloaded a bunch of Blind Guardian mp3. He liked them a lot. So afterwards he bought a lot of original albums, shirts, went to concerts, etc. And many others like him as well.
My point is: piracy is underrated. It's wrong, yeah, but you're hypocrites, so I don't care. In Croatia, our games cost the same amount of money like in the USA, but we earn 3-4 times less on average. Some games are even more expensive in Croatia. So yeah, screw you.
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Oh yeah, I've never heard of renting a game, so I guess that can't be done in here.
People aren't evil. They merely do what gives them the most incentive. And quite frankly Australia does have to put up with a lot. Kinda glad that the guy in charge now isn't putting a kibosh on video games simply because everyone in the AUS industry is over 12 years old.Blackvegie said:
Odd... I would think this to be an argument on anime not games.Babitz said:
Because The first two are not actually taking the thing, they are merely you attempting to copy it best you can, it isn't a carbon copy of it. Stealing the money would assume that they had it in the first place, which they didn't.Belladonnah said:
Because game's have a digital nature, and every copy of it will be the same, it's handled differently because you can easily distribute them anyway you want, which is frowned on by the publisher (obviously). Now I stopped pirating a while back, these days ill pirate the odd game for my DS or really old games.
However, I would pirate Assassins creed 2, had I any interest in the game out of principle, due to the stupid nature of the DRM, which would hopefully show Ubisoft that the DRM does not work and is quite easily cracked and will pirated anyway. I find it justified to make a point to the publisher, when the Legal consumer gets it in the neck and is treated like a criminal, and the Pirate gets to have a nice easily working copy of the game, something isn't right.
MW2 was another game I had beef with over the dedicated servers debacle, HOWEVER, I refused to buy it, and I still haven't. but I didn't pirate it either, instead I bought Bad Company 2, because I love Battlefield.
I would also like to know how you rent a PC game, if it has the stupid DRM, I view pirating as a way of getting a DEMO of the game to see if you like it to be fine, why should I pay £35/40, for something that may be a massive disappointment? Heck if that guy from Crysis 2 has anything to say "FREE game demos are a dying breed", okay maybe it's not quite true but you get my drift
Personally I feel companies should just all bow down to almighty Steam and use that, mainly because if they ALL did it, i'd have far too many launcher programs running at once, but it's the best type of DRM, you can play it offline, it stops piracy for the main part, and it's non intrusive. Plus my wallet loves Steam.
games need to be higher quality. I do it simply on a try before you buy basis, for instance. I "acquired" borderlands and I have every intention to buy it, I also "acquired" just cause 2, and i'm happy that I did because much like eidos, it was the biggest pile of corporate slur 3rd person shooty failure i have ever, EVER seen. and its being sold for 50 bucks on steam and 60 euro over here. now I can keep ahold of that 50 bucks and buy a game worth paying for.