Why do Vegetarians get so much hate?

[bjj hero]

Because they are little sissies, who don't have the guts to enjoy the taste of blood.

Im sure I read a study showing that being a vegi makes your testicles atrophy...

If you don't mention being a vegitarian, I wont mention you being a vegitarian. It's the self righteous shit that goes along with it that pisses me off. Its a phase, you'll grow out of it.

Anything to be different...

 

[VitalSigns]

Because they are little sissies, who don't have the guts to enjoy the taste of blood.

Im sure I read a study showing that being a vegi makes your testicles atrophy...

If you don't mention being a vegitarian, I wont mention you being a vegitarian. It's the self righteous shit that goes along with it that pisses me off. Its a phase, you'll grow out of it.

Anything to be different...

Being a vegetarian does nothing bad to your Testicles. thats a rumor.
also im 21 been vegetarian since i was 18, I will not grow out of it, and I wont be preachy but have enough respect to not trivialize my decision as "Anything to be different".

Its things like that, people say it, we defend ourselves, then people call us preachy

 

[Skipid]

Vegetarians go on and on about animal cruelty and most vegetarians go even further thinking that they are "better" or that they are "saving" something. The less meat you eat, the meat industry will need less animals to sustain their buisness. So instead of breeding animals to be sent of to slaughter, these animals will never be born.

So if your "Vegetarians save 100 animals a year" thing is true (Source?) then you have just denied 100 animals excistance in this world. Making the efforts of your "Save the animals" campaign utterly useless.

But what realy pisses me off about vegetarians who don't realize that a diet is not a lifestyle but a fucking diet that isn't making any fucking difference, is that they preach about animal cruelty and a bunch of other fun stuff, while human beings ( Homo Sapiens, remember what this is?) are suffering and dieing slow and painfull deaths of meaningless excistance somewhere in Afrikanakstanopia (or something).

So would you rather focus on some sheep that doesn't have a brain fit to get out of the road when I honk the horn and yell at it to get out of the way, because it's to busy licking the salt of the highway, or a little kid that hasn't had a proper meal all it's life so the body has responded by killing off the urge to eat or any emotions relating to hunger. And that very same kid will be raised by a sibling since the parents have died because of AIDS and/or Malaria?


Fuck the cows getting slaughtered, what about the humans you pretentious twats.

(Not directed to you if it does not apply, just venting).

 

[scott91575]

Decent points, Statistically speaking every Vegetarian saves roughly 100 animals per year.
Yes animals do die in grazing for vegetables, but i'm not stupid enough to let myself starve to death. Im not trying to Change the world, its more or less about just not being involved in the actual cruelty. However i give no one flack for their personal choice, but animal cruelty is an issue, you can't just say its not, but we are in a world full of issues so its easy to bypass it for something more relate-able like slave labor and Abortion. As for half assed? I don't see how not eating meat can be half assed, unless they eat is occasionally and don't tell anyone but its pretty black and white, you either eat it or you don't.

Also, Pointing out they're wrong is also kind of grey, when you say that do you mean you tell them their wrong when you find out their vegetarian? or when they start pushing it on you, Cause i am a firm believer it is not anyones place to push anything on anyone else.

Gonna call BS on the 100 animals a year too. Have you seen how much meat comes from just one cow or one pig? That would mean a person would need to eat a whole animal almost every 3 days. Unless it's all chicken, or you are counting eggs, I highly doubt it. A whole pig or cow would last most people an entire year. Throw in a few chickens, a turkey and maybe you have 20 animals. Not 100.

I could care less what you eat. Yet this is one reason people don't like vegetarians....lies.

 

[VitalSigns]

Decent points, Statistically speaking every Vegetarian saves roughly 100 animals per year.
Yes animals do die in grazing for vegetables, but i'm not stupid enough to let myself starve to death. Im not trying to Change the world, its more or less about just not being involved in the actual cruelty. However i give no one flack for their personal choice, but animal cruelty is an issue, you can't just say its not, but we are in a world full of issues so its easy to bypass it for something more relate-able like slave labor and Abortion. As for half assed? I don't see how not eating meat can be half assed, unless they eat is occasionally and don't tell anyone but its pretty black and white, you either eat it or you don't.

Also, Pointing out they're wrong is also kind of grey, when you say that do you mean you tell them their wrong when you find out their vegetarian? or when they start pushing it on you, Cause i am a firm believer it is not anyones place to push anything on anyone else.

Gonna call BS on the 100 animals a year too. Have you seen how much meat comes from just one cow or one pig? That would mean a person would need to eat a whole animal almost every 3 days. Unless it's all chicken, or you are counting eggs, I highly doubt it. A whole pig or cow would last most people an entire year. Throw in a few chickens, a turkey and maybe you have 20 animals. Not 100.

I could care less what you eat. Yet this is one reason people don't like vegetarians....lies.

If Im wrong then I have read falsified statistics, therefore I am not the liar, much like you are not the Intolerant Slaughterer for just eating the meat.

This is what was presented to me, and what I read. Granted it came from PeTA. (a group I have no real association with)

 

[VitalSigns]

Vegetarians go on and on about animal cruelty and most vegetarians go even further thinking that they are "better" or that they are "saving" something. The less meat you eat, the meat industry will need less animals to sustain their buisness. So instead of breeding animals to be sent of to slaughter, these animals will never be born.

So if your "Vegetarians save 100 animals a year" thing is true (Source?) then you have just denied 100 animals excistance in this world. Making the efforts of your "Save the animals" campaign utterly useless.

But what realy pisses me off about vegetarians who don't realize that a diet is not a lifestyle but a fucking diet that isn't making any fucking difference, is that they preach about animal cruelty and a bunch of other fun stuff, while human beings ( Homo Sapiens, remember what this is?) are suffering and dieing slow and painfull deaths of meaningless excistance somewhere in Afrikanakstanopia (or something).

So would you rather focus on some sheep that doesn't have a brain fit to get out of the road when I honk the horn and yell at it to get out of the way, because it's to busy licking the salt of the highway, or a little kid that hasn't had a proper meal all it's life so the body has responded by killing off the urge to eat or any emotions relating to hunger. And that very same kid will be raised by a sibling since the parents have died because of AIDS and/or Malaria?


Fuck the cows getting slaughtered, what about the humans you pretentious twats.

(Not directed to you if it does not apply, just venting).

I stated before i am against ALL forms of cruelty in regards to both humans and animals, this is a tired argument, its extremely hard to stop human to human cruelty but to make even a small difference by doing something as easy as a diet change, that is a difference I can make without taking any time out of my day, so I figured why not.

 

[Dys]

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Decent points, Statistically speaking every Vegetarian saves roughly 100 animals per year.
Yes animals do die in grazing for vegetables, but i'm not stupid enough to let myself starve to death. Im not trying to Change the world, its more or less about just not being involved in the actual cruelty. However i give no one flack for their personal choice, but animal cruelty is an issue, you can't just say its not, but we are in a world full of issues so its easy to bypass it for something more relate-able like slave labor and Abortion. As for half assed? I don't see how not eating meat can be half assed, unless they eat is occasionally and don't tell anyone but its pretty black and white, you either eat it or you don't.

Also, Pointing out they're wrong is also kind of grey, when you say that do you mean you tell them their wrong when you find out their vegetarian? or when they start pushing it on you, Cause i am a firm believer it is not anyones place to push anything on anyone else.

Gonna call BS on the 100 animals a year too. Have you seen how much meat comes from just one cow or one pig? That would mean a person would need to eat a whole animal almost every 3 days. Unless it's all chicken, or you are counting eggs, I highly doubt it. A whole pig or cow would last most people an entire year. Throw in a few chickens, a turkey and maybe you have 20 animals. Not 100.

I could care less what you eat. Yet this is one reason people don't like vegetarians....lies.

If Im wrong then I have read falsified statistics, therefore I am not the liar, much like you are not the Intolerant Slaughterer for just eating the meat.

This is what was presented to me, and what I read. Granted it came from PeTA. (a group I have no real association with)

Oh, the statistic came from PeTa? Probably for the best not to trust statistics from such biased sources.
We can probably assume that the paramenters for that statistic don't include all the insects, birds and small mammals/reptiles that are killed during the harvest process, also that they were comparing organic, homegrown produce to mass farmed livestock.

In a real world example that statistic is plain wrong, billions more lives are sacraficed due to pesticides and machinary in crop harvesting than livestock farming (which has less machinary and no pesticides).

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Vegetarians go on and on about animal cruelty and most vegetarians go even further thinking that they are "better" or that they are "saving" something. The less meat you eat, the meat industry will need less animals to sustain their buisness. So instead of breeding animals to be sent of to slaughter, these animals will never be born.

So if your "Vegetarians save 100 animals a year" thing is true (Source?) then you have just denied 100 animals excistance in this world. Making the efforts of your "Save the animals" campaign utterly useless.

But what realy pisses me off about vegetarians who don't realize that a diet is not a lifestyle but a fucking diet that isn't making any fucking difference, is that they preach about animal cruelty and a bunch of other fun stuff, while human beings ( Homo Sapiens, remember what this is?) are suffering and dieing slow and painfull deaths of meaningless excistance somewhere in Afrikanakstanopia (or something).

So would you rather focus on some sheep that doesn't have a brain fit to get out of the road when I honk the horn and yell at it to get out of the way, because it's to busy licking the salt of the highway, or a little kid that hasn't had a proper meal all it's life so the body has responded by killing off the urge to eat or any emotions relating to hunger. And that very same kid will be raised by a sibling since the parents have died because of AIDS and/or Malaria?


Fuck the cows getting slaughtered, what about the humans you pretentious twats.

(Not directed to you if it does not apply, just venting).

I stated before i am against ALL forms of cruelty in regards to both humans and animals, this is a tired argument, its extremely hard to stop human to human cruelty but to make even a small difference by doing something as easy as a diet change, that is a difference I can make without taking any time out of my day, so I figured why not.

You could just as easily stop human suffering by selecting locally produced food. A simple change in diet and boycotting foodstuffs imported from third world countries would supposedly lessen the human suffering, as there would be less people forced to work the farms for slave rates. Of course, being from Australia we have a whole lot of locally produced meat, so that would probably mean forsaking the animals for the sake of humans, and eating locally sourced free range animal products to avoid supporting inhumane working conditions is cruel. Seriously I can respect that arguament, just the people who whip that out when arguaing to my face (that are from my local area) have less pretentious choices to prevent suffering, but they would rather follow the fad.

 

[bjj hero]

Decent points, Statistically speaking every Vegetarian saves roughly 100 animals per year.
Yes animals do die in grazing for vegetables, but i'm not stupid enough to let myself starve to death. Im not trying to Change the world, its more or less about just not being involved in the actual cruelty. However i give no one flack for their personal choice, but animal cruelty is an issue, you can't just say its not, but we are in a world full of issues so its easy to bypass it for something more relate-able like slave labor and Abortion. As for half assed? I don't see how not eating meat can be half assed, unless they eat is occasionally and don't tell anyone but its pretty black and white, you either eat it or you don't.

Also, Pointing out they're wrong is also kind of grey, when you say that do you mean you tell them their wrong when you find out their vegetarian? or when they start pushing it on you, Cause i am a firm believer it is not anyones place to push anything on anyone else.

Gonna call BS on the 100 animals a year too. Have you seen how much meat comes from just one cow or one pig? That would mean a person would need to eat a whole animal almost every 3 days. Unless it's all chicken, or you are counting eggs, I highly doubt it. A whole pig or cow would last most people an entire year. Throw in a few chickens, a turkey and maybe you have 20 animals. Not 100.

I could care less what you eat. Yet this is one reason people don't like vegetarians....lies.

If Im wrong then I have read falsified statistics, therefore I am not the liar, much like you are not the Intolerant Slaughterer for just eating the meat.

This is what was presented to me, and what I read. Granted it came from PeTA. (a group I have no real association with)

Oh... dear... There is a proverb, I believe it is Japanese in origin: If you believe everything you read; don't read.

You honestly didn't thing PETA had an agenda and would want to colour their stats to further their cause? Nieve at best.

Being a vegetarian does nothing bad to your Testicles. thats a rumor.
also im 21 been vegetarian since i was 18, I will not grow out of it, and I wont be preachy but have enough respect to not trivialize my decision as "Anything to be different".

Its things like that, people say it, we defend ourselves, then people call us preachy

I was joking about your testicles, do you really think there is a study supporting atrophy of the testicles from veg? You have been a vegetarian for three years. Most kids goth or emo phases lasts longer than that. Give me a call when you're 30, if you're still a vegetarian.

Feel free to preach, I will exercise my right not to listen... and maybe fire back the odd smart arsed comment.

 

[VitalSigns]

PeTA is biased, but they are a very extreme example of a minority.
don't pull the Pesticides card, because obviously i need to sustain life with some food.
AGAIN! let me repeat, it is NOT THE DEATH OF THE ANIMAL THAT I NECESSARILY FIND CRUEL, IT IS THE LIVING CONDITIONS!

 

[garfoldsomeoneelse]

You are preaching right now.

Coming into a forum, saying "Hey guys, don't hate us, we just want to save the animals, and I save over a hundred a year with my super-awesome non-cruelty-supporting diet" is preaching.

You know what I catch a lot of shit for? Smoking. There's an abundance of anti-smoking threads around here, but not once have I been tempted to create a thread about "hey, guys, why do you hate smokers? We're really okay guys, we don't want to convert you to smoking, and I save over one hundred tobacco plants from being turned into compost every year! Oh, but you're not immoral for not smoking."

(EDIT: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.117850

Holy shit, I hadn't even seen this. Too perfect.)

The difference being that I don't have a victim complex. If you don't want to be lumped in with the idiots, don't willingly staple the same label to your forehead. Shut up, stop whining about how "oppressed, misunderstood and hated" you are, and eat your damn salad in peace, instead of trying to be a martyr for tofu-eaters everywhere.

Nobody's going to give you a hard time if you don't advertise.

 

[VitalSigns]

Decent points, Statistically speaking every Vegetarian saves roughly 100 animals per year.
Yes animals do die in grazing for vegetables, but i'm not stupid enough to let myself starve to death. Im not trying to Change the world, its more or less about just not being involved in the actual cruelty. However i give no one flack for their personal choice, but animal cruelty is an issue, you can't just say its not, but we are in a world full of issues so its easy to bypass it for something more relate-able like slave labor and Abortion. As for half assed? I don't see how not eating meat can be half assed, unless they eat is occasionally and don't tell anyone but its pretty black and white, you either eat it or you don't.

Also, Pointing out they're wrong is also kind of grey, when you say that do you mean you tell them their wrong when you find out their vegetarian? or when they start pushing it on you, Cause i am a firm believer it is not anyones place to push anything on anyone else.

Gonna call BS on the 100 animals a year too. Have you seen how much meat comes from just one cow or one pig? That would mean a person would need to eat a whole animal almost every 3 days. Unless it's all chicken, or you are counting eggs, I highly doubt it. A whole pig or cow would last most people an entire year. Throw in a few chickens, a turkey and maybe you have 20 animals. Not 100.

I could care less what you eat. Yet this is one reason people don't like vegetarians....lies.

If Im wrong then I have read falsified statistics, therefore I am not the liar, much like you are not the Intolerant Slaughterer for just eating the meat.

This is what was presented to me, and what I read. Granted it came from PeTA. (a group I have no real association with)

Oh... dear... There is a proverb, I believe it is Japanese in origin: If you believe everything you read; don't read.

You honestly didn't thing PETA had an agenda and would want to colour their stats to further their cause? Nieve at best.

Being a vegetarian does nothing bad to your Testicles. thats a rumor.
also im 21 been vegetarian since i was 18, I will not grow out of it, and I wont be preachy but have enough respect to not trivialize my decision as "Anything to be different".

Its things like that, people say it, we defend ourselves, then people call us preachy

I was joking about your testicles, do you really think there is a study supporting atrophy of the testicles from veg? You have been a vegetarian for three years. Most kids goth or emo phases lasts longer than that. Give me a call when you're 30, if you're still a vegetarian.

Feel free to preach, I will exercise my right not to listen... and maybe fire back the odd smart arsed comment.

This is not a preach thread, its a discussion, read before you type. And trust me, im neither Emo or Goth. If your not under 16 and your still gathering people into convenient Pop Culture groups, your an idiot.

P.S I do not support PETA at all. they give vegetarians and Vegans a very bad and loud name.

 

[Dys]

PeTA is biased, but they are a very extreme example of a minority.
don't pull the Pesticides card, because obviously i need to sustain life with some food.
AGAIN! let me repeat, it is NOT THE DEATH OF THE ANIMAL THAT I NECESSARILY FIND CRUEL, IT IS THE LIVING CONDITIONS!

So educate yourself on the concept of free range livestock and stop trying to present all livestock farmers as sadistic assholes.

 

[PurpleRain]

All vegetarians I've run into always complain how meat is murder, how its wrong to eat meat, yadda yadda yadda. What the hell do you think we've been eating since the dawn of man? We certainly weren't eating Tofu.

You've met a lot of strange and angry people.

 

[scott91575]

Decent points, Statistically speaking every Vegetarian saves roughly 100 animals per year.
Yes animals do die in grazing for vegetables, but i'm not stupid enough to let myself starve to death. Im not trying to Change the world, its more or less about just not being involved in the actual cruelty. However i give no one flack for their personal choice, but animal cruelty is an issue, you can't just say its not, but we are in a world full of issues so its easy to bypass it for something more relate-able like slave labor and Abortion. As for half assed? I don't see how not eating meat can be half assed, unless they eat is occasionally and don't tell anyone but its pretty black and white, you either eat it or you don't.

Also, Pointing out they're wrong is also kind of grey, when you say that do you mean you tell them their wrong when you find out their vegetarian? or when they start pushing it on you, Cause i am a firm believer it is not anyones place to push anything on anyone else.

Gonna call BS on the 100 animals a year too. Have you seen how much meat comes from just one cow or one pig? That would mean a person would need to eat a whole animal almost every 3 days. Unless it's all chicken, or you are counting eggs, I highly doubt it. A whole pig or cow would last most people an entire year. Throw in a few chickens, a turkey and maybe you have 20 animals. Not 100.

I could care less what you eat. Yet this is one reason people don't like vegetarians....lies.

If Im wrong then I have read falsified statistics, therefore I am not the liar, much like you are not the Intolerant Slaughterer for just eating the meat.

This is what was presented to me, and what I read. Granted it came from PeTA. (a group I have no real association with)

First mistake - trusting anything Peta has to say.

How about this, disseminating false information.

Furthermore, to another one of your points, plant proteins are considered incomplete proteins. They lack certain amino acids. In order to make them complete you need to combine different ones (legumes, grains, and nuts). This is the reason you hear rice and beans is a good mix for protein (mixing grains with legumes). Meat protein on the other hand is a complete protein. You can get complete proteins through vegetables in combinations. Yet all vegetables lack the complete protein in meat. There is nothing wrong with plant proteins as long as you eat a combination.

BTW...your perfect protein, falafel (normally chickpeas), is lacking in methionine and cystine. You need to add a grain.

 

[VitalSigns]

PeTA is biased, but they are a very extreme example of a minority.
don't pull the Pesticides card, because obviously i need to sustain life with some food.
AGAIN! let me repeat, it is NOT THE DEATH OF THE ANIMAL THAT I NECESSARILY FIND CRUEL, IT IS THE LIVING CONDITIONS!

So educate yourself on the concept of free range livestock and stop trying to present all livestock farmers as sadistic assholes.

When did I say they were sadistic assholes? your the prime example of someone who jumps to conclusions based on my personal beliefs. I do not agree with Murdering something for food when I dont have too, Free-range is much better, but there is a lot of proven deception where its not all sunshine and rainbows like they want us to believe, that being said there are a lot of legit Kosher meats that can be bought. I however do not want to eat it. The Living arrangements are the worst part to me, but I just don't enjoy eating Meat. there are many aspects to it. Don't try to paint me as this Human Hating animal Hugging scumbag. I care about humanity, I care about Animals, and I care about the enviroment. So don't act like I have the Agenda of Hatred.

 

[Aesthetical Quietus]

The reason your catching flak is because of all the vocal anti-meat haters out there, you bring up your vegetarian and it's simply a in-built reflex to them.
I have a vegan friend who has, on several occasions had huge arguments with me over the topic, trying to convert me, it has in part put my hackles up towards vegetarians. However, I'm still tolerant, cause one of my best friends is vegetarian, and she's pretty sweet about it.

 

[VitalSigns]

Well this thread inspired me to post something on their forums. (PETA's) This was the post-
A philosophy will always have another opposite philosophy.

I begin this post with that. Why are you giving everyone so much hate for eating meat? Are you not doing harm by forcing others to your opinion? I am just so angry that yet again i get approached by another vegan screaming at me for buying meat. Do you really think you have the right to change the world? Sure there are many problems in this world but i would rather spend time raising concern of mass starvation in Ethiopia. This is rather a question post. Not trying to offend people. Just need to sort things out in my mind

Anything to edit before i post? Please put some input. Got time since they need 'approve' of my account (/b/ raid measures?)

I Have repeated again and again. I have no problem with anyone eating meat, I do not think im better than them, I do not think im more moral then them. It is a personal choice. but I will defend myself when someone tells me everything i do is stupid and wrong.

 

[Legion]

Not sure whether this has been done before, I have been a Vegetarian for 3 years now Because I find it is a healthier diet (yes I get protein) and I do not want to be apart of animal cruelty at all. And I find when a lot of people find out i'm a vegetarian they go for the throat so to speak. I am constantly told why i'm wasting my time and how I must be a drag to go out to dinner with, Basically told I'm stupid for my diet choice. I have never once preached to anyone, complained at a restaurant about having no food or put my health at risk. So I must ask Why all the flack? Is it so wrong to truly have a problem with cruelty? (whether it be towards animals of humans) and don't we have better things to judge people on than something as unimportant as what a person chooses to consume. My personal belief is that when someone finds out i'm Veg they immediately figure i'm going to preach to them, or that I feel i am an elitist who thinks I am better than them. But I have never done either of these things. I would be very interested to hear peoples thoughts on this, and just vegetarianism as a whole. Also any Vegetarians have the same experience?

(this applies to not eating Any Meat whatsoever non of that "Flexitarian" stuff)

People always listen to the loud, obnoxious minorities when it comes to judging things, as opposed to the normal majorities.

The same goes for everything really: Computer games, music, clothing, religion etc. etc.