Why does everybody here seam to hate MW2?
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To us (PC gamers), MW2 is a huge step backwards for multiplayer, not just in balance but in the service (IWnet) itself. The very big thing about PC were dedicated servers, the fact that we can choose what we want to play and to have the least amount of lag as possible, MW2 just forces you to play certain maps, leaving you only able to choose what gamemode you want to play. Another big factor are admins for a dedicated server, that can ban hackers when they show themselves on the server as opposed to relying on an anti-cheat or a report system to do the banning, VAC isn't that bad, but it's far too slow to react and there are still a shitload of hackers still on MW2.
The lack of modding ability also pisses me off, since that also ties with more control of your game and also adding more longevity to your game since the community would be generating new content, from maps to total conversions. Next thing is the amount of bugs/glitches/balance issue in this game, and I know that all games will have these, but come on, IW made COD4 which was almost flawless in my opinion. Why they ever allowed people to dual-wield shotguns or made a perk that PROMOTED the use of excessive explosives when one of the main problems with COD4 WERE EXPLOSIVES is beyond me.
The player count was lowered for some reason, while lower player count isn't a bad thing, it would've been nice to have the option and I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that consoles can't handle more than 18 since I've seen games that can handle 32 to 64 players that are almost as close-quarters as MW2.
Overall, I think the whole "We want you to play the game the way we designed it" is just plain stupid, you should give players control, not take it away from them.
The lack of modding ability also pisses me off, since that also ties with more control of your game and also adding more longevity to your game since the community would be generating new content, from maps to total conversions. Next thing is the amount of bugs/glitches/balance issue in this game, and I know that all games will have these, but come on, IW made COD4 which was almost flawless in my opinion. Why they ever allowed people to dual-wield shotguns or made a perk that PROMOTED the use of excessive explosives when one of the main problems with COD4 WERE EXPLOSIVES is beyond me.
The player count was lowered for some reason, while lower player count isn't a bad thing, it would've been nice to have the option and I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that consoles can't handle more than 18 since I've seen games that can handle 32 to 64 players that are almost as close-quarters as MW2.
Overall, I think the whole "We want you to play the game the way we designed it" is just plain stupid, you should give players control, not take it away from them.
Played it, liked it for a while, fell out of love. Got really bored using the same four or five weapons over and over again, then realized that everything else is shit compared to those.
I don't like and have never liked the speed at which you can get killed by just about anything. Most of the assault rifles can drop somebody in < 0.1s, which frankly is a fairly average ping time. You can be easily killed before you know what's going on and have any chance to defend yourself. Some of the perks need little touch-ups too. Commando is too strong and One Man Army needs a cooling off to minimize the grenade spam.
Above are probably the biggest faults, but I have a bunch of other petty little grievances that simple annoy me till the point where I demand answers. Why does SitRep pro take so much longer to unlock than any other pro version of a perk? Why does Lightweight take over twice as much sprinting to finish than Marathon, despite the fact that one's seldom seen without the other? With millions being spent on air support which gets shot down in seconds, couldn't anyone afford to buy me more than three magazines of ammo?
I got Bad Company 2. Much better.
I don't like and have never liked the speed at which you can get killed by just about anything. Most of the assault rifles can drop somebody in < 0.1s, which frankly is a fairly average ping time. You can be easily killed before you know what's going on and have any chance to defend yourself. Some of the perks need little touch-ups too. Commando is too strong and One Man Army needs a cooling off to minimize the grenade spam.
Above are probably the biggest faults, but I have a bunch of other petty little grievances that simple annoy me till the point where I demand answers. Why does SitRep pro take so much longer to unlock than any other pro version of a perk? Why does Lightweight take over twice as much sprinting to finish than Marathon, despite the fact that one's seldom seen without the other? With millions being spent on air support which gets shot down in seconds, couldn't anyone afford to buy me more than three magazines of ammo?
I got Bad Company 2. Much better.
I hate it and love it. I hate the glitches, lag, hackers and the people who exploit broken areas of the multiplayer like the One Man Army noob-tubing. I love it 'cos it's fun to play with friends and that I've been forced to like it as that's the only game my friends play.
Because it's boring, I guess? I try not to speak for others, so that why I'm guessin, possibly, maybe why.
Well, I wouldn't say they seam to hate it, as very few MW2 players do any knitting...
Ironically enough, I just made the switch from BC2 to MW2 and could not be more satisfied. The action is more fast-paced, there's less focus on pointless realism, and the teamwork is satisfactory because it's not required whatsoever. Plus, while I'm certainly a bit pissed at the lack of dedicated servers, all things considered they did a much better job than L4D's matchmaking, and finding a game is fast.
Anyone expecting realism from MW2, or the same style of MW1, will definitely be disappointed. It has even more explosives than before, which is sort of just a different playstyle now.
Ironically enough, I just made the switch from BC2 to MW2 and could not be more satisfied. The action is more fast-paced, there's less focus on pointless realism, and the teamwork is satisfactory because it's not required whatsoever. Plus, while I'm certainly a bit pissed at the lack of dedicated servers, all things considered they did a much better job than L4D's matchmaking, and finding a game is fast.
Anyone expecting realism from MW2, or the same style of MW1, will definitely be disappointed. It has even more explosives than before, which is sort of just a different playstyle now.
the story line was too short and online is just boring and to repetitive and just prefer games with a good long story like DragonAge:O,Mass Effect 1 and 2, Final Fantasy and The Last Remnant stuff like that
I don't see why people rip on the game, either, man. I love that Game! I'm on Multiplayer every weekend
Price increase, Stupid Balance, Less features than Modern Warfare, No dedicated servers.
Added fuel to the anti gaming lobby for being controversial when it isn't even slightly controverial, what we can kill civilians, haven't we been able to do that for years in GTA?
Apsolutely rediclously short Single player and an extremely poor community, atleast from what I have heard.
buying off reviewers to give it perfect scores or they wont let them preview future products, No way is MW2 perfect in fact the PC version is apsolutely terrible. They didn't even try its just a console port, you can tell the controls have not been optimised for the Mouse and Keyboard just by how it feels.
So glad I never bought that game, in fact im probably one of the only people who actually said they would not buy it and actually did not.
final Note, how did such a piss poor game make so much money? Disgusts me when games like MW2 sell more millions and awsome games like Enemy Territory Quake Wars make hardly anything and sell for less than £10 in your local store.
Added fuel to the anti gaming lobby for being controversial when it isn't even slightly controverial, what we can kill civilians, haven't we been able to do that for years in GTA?
Apsolutely rediclously short Single player and an extremely poor community, atleast from what I have heard.
buying off reviewers to give it perfect scores or they wont let them preview future products, No way is MW2 perfect in fact the PC version is apsolutely terrible. They didn't even try its just a console port, you can tell the controls have not been optimised for the Mouse and Keyboard just by how it feels.
So glad I never bought that game, in fact im probably one of the only people who actually said they would not buy it and actually did not.
final Note, how did such a piss poor game make so much money? Disgusts me when games like MW2 sell more millions and awsome games like Enemy Territory Quake Wars make hardly anything and sell for less than £10 in your local store.
Honestly I never quite understood the rag on singleplayer. It's short, yes, but it very obviously had high production value with all the cinematic sequences and vehicle sections. Besides, they're meant to be somewhat replayable. Plus, they give you the spec ops missions, which aren't TOO unique but still add quite a bit of playtime. Honestly, I've felt if a story is good and engaging, then quality of experience is better than quantity of experience; that's why Yahtzee didn't mind for Portal. The game keeps such a "high-intensity" atmosphere all the time that I kind of feel it WOULD get the feeling of dragging on if it went any longer.
Of course, this doesn't make much difference to the sort who were annoyed by the whole betrayal, or saw the plot as unrealistic. That certainly isn't me; granted, you do need a little bit of suspension of disbelief, but I've seen plenty of "classic" action movie stories that had a less believable storyline.
So much of it seems subjective and difficult to explain, so it's probably difficult to say why I haven't gotten back on the hate train after playing it.
Of course, this doesn't make much difference to the sort who were annoyed by the whole betrayal, or saw the plot as unrealistic. That certainly isn't me; granted, you do need a little bit of suspension of disbelief, but I've seen plenty of "classic" action movie stories that had a less believable storyline.
So much of it seems subjective and difficult to explain, so it's probably difficult to say why I haven't gotten back on the hate train after playing it.
Despite that i still play the MP some, I do have to say, i have seen some really f-ed up crap from this game, i have seen SOOO many ppl NOT die from a burst fire to the chest at close range, shotgun blast(s), and now even freakin grenades & claymores, had a guy shoot me, fair kill, but he walked right in front of my claymore, it went off, no damage to him, wtf...
btw, it went off B4 i died...
anyway, call it imbalance or whatever, there are many major issues with the MP and it deserve the scrutiny it gets, and probably all the hate too...
btw, it went off B4 i died...
anyway, call it imbalance or whatever, there are many major issues with the MP and it deserve the scrutiny it gets, and probably all the hate too...
everything that you said really there are just way to many problems and fixes that need to be done that IW doesnt care about because there just scraping in money with bullshit like over priced DLC shitty limited editions (I cry every time i look at that box i wasted money on a game that gathers dust) with nothing special. But for me its mostly the fact that they just dont care if they lose 100,000 players because of bad gameplay cause there having more and more people buy it anyways