Why does everyone hate Halo 3?

[The Iron Ninja]

Because of this guy.

This may just be me, but the reason I hate Halo 3 is because the master chief is a douchebag.
If he never talked, I might like the game a bit more.

Also the online community for it is really rather lacking in the intelligent rebuttal department.

 

[excessum ado]

Oh my god! A thread speculating as to the quality of halo 3! I havent seen one of these in about...two days! How original! How about you go back to the forums, click on gaming discussion and look through one of the dozens of threads just like this one and I think you'll get a pretty good answer to this question.

 

[TerraMGP]

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need I say more?

 

[Milford Cubicle]

I don't hate it. It's just boring and almost exactly the same as Halo 2. Even the graphics didn't look any different. I didn't really give it much time to be honest, I played the first couple of levels, then part-exed it for a better game.

 

[olicon]

I also don't find Halo series to be so bad. I did enjoy it enough when I played it with my friends, and it is a solid game in it's own right. Halo3 brought something new in the "trophy/skull game mode system" thingy that I never quite got into. I guess those ain't the newest thing either, but at least it's done in a new and interesting way here.
But I would be lying if I say I don't totally hate the hype over the game. The fanboys definitely ruined it.
If there is any valid reason for my hatred for Halo, it's the same sweeping reason I hate all console FPS. The damn control. USB slots = place for mouse and keyboard. Use it, dammit!

 

[Woe Is You]

Because the Halo series are sub-par shooters that brought in an element that, much like the 'casual' gamers now, dropped the level of work that people put into games by drawing in people with lower standards. Halo 1-3 have rather bland weapons, poor story, annoying gameplay curves and the only real feature is the multiplayer which again only served to hurt the industry as a whole.

There are plenty things that Halo did that were kind of refreshing for the time. Not having to search for medpacks was one. The fact that you could use almost every gun in the game from the get-go was another. The interiors were admittedly bland and repetitive in the first game, but that's mostly been fixed in the sequels.

There's also a lot to be said about the holier-than-thou attitude a lot of the Halo haters have. Trying to be above them and then posting thing like...

youd best not bash 'casual gamers' as you most likely belong to a subset that came into gaming later and ruined alot of it for those of us who have been doing it for ages.

...doesn't really make you sound less annoying than them. They also ignore what the gaming landscape was like before Halo's success. There were a lot of PC game companies that were busy trying to replicate the success of Doom and Quake by doing their own FPS knockoffs of them, while the console landscape was filled to the brim with bland platformers till FFVII came along and we were getting swamped with bland JRPGs after that. Anyone remember games like Vandal Hearts and/or Septerra Core? If you don't, then it's because they were the blandest JRPG-type games you could find on the market.

See, don't you feel like buying some aluminum now? No? Why not?

You forget that those hating Halo are often equally willing to shout it to you. With equal vigor. Often.

 

[D_987]

Please just clear this up for me because I really want to know, as a gamer and aspiring game designer.

Yep, this will really help your "aspiration". Particularly when 90% of the people who claim they want to work in games really don't know what the job entails.

Its mindless fanboy flamebait.

 

[TerraMGP]

Because the Halo series are sub-par shooters that brought in an element that, much like the 'casual' gamers now, dropped the level of work that people put into games by drawing in people with lower standards. Halo 1-3 have rather bland weapons, poor story, annoying gameplay curves and the only real feature is the multiplayer which again only served to hurt the industry as a whole.

There are plenty things that Halo did that were kind of refreshing for the time. Not having to search for medpacks was one. The fact that you could use almost every gun in the game from the get-go was another. The interiors were admittedly bland and repetitive in the first game, but that's mostly been fixed in the sequels.

There's also a lot to be said about the holier-than-thou attitude a lot of the Halo haters have. Trying to be above them and then posting thing like...

youd best not bash 'casual gamers' as you most likely belong to a subset that came into gaming later and ruined alot of it for those of us who have been doing it for ages.

...doesn't really make you sound less annoying than them. They also ignore what the gaming landscape was like before Halo's success. There were a lot of PC game companies were busy trying to replicate the success of Doom and Quake by doing their own FPS knockoffs of them, while the console landscape was filled to the brim with bland platformers till FFVII came along and we were getting swamped with bland JRPGs after that. Anyone remember games like Vandal Hearts and/or Septerra Core? If you don't, then it's because they were the blandest JRPG-type games you could find on the market.

See, don't you feel like buying some aluminum now? No? Why not?

You forget that those hating Halo are often equally willing to shout it to you. With equal vigor. Often.

Frankly the 'holier than thou' is to show people that they need to shut up and stop sounding like that. They have no reason to ***** because they 'screwed things up' for us the way 'casual gamers' have for them. There were plenty of amazing games before and after FF7 both on and off the consoles that got quashed. JRPGs had stories that were often complex, dark, and interesting like the good books they should have been. Western RPGs borrowed heavily from Tabletop games and offered alot of freedom. Yes there was plenty of crap, and there is now, but the point is that nothing really bad is happening, the market shifts some but stays much the same. I am trying to make one simple point.

"We lost some of our games when the FPS became big, We coped, we have good games to play still, Quit playing chicken little and have your fun."

 

[Hookman]

Its not a bad game. Its just...meh. Theres no other word to describe it. ITS MEH! Its OK but its really just the same thing as the other halo games.Plus it was overhyped to hell and back which just made it more dissapointing that it was a bland remake of halo 2.

 

[Woe Is You]

JRPGs had stories that were often complex, dark, and interesting like the good books they should have been.

Good books? Complex and interesting? What?

I can come up with a total of 5 RPGs that had truly interesting plots. One of them is Final Fantasy VI (VII loses simply because of its half-assed translation). The second is Panzer Dragoon Saga. The third is Baldur's Gate 2. Final Fantasy Tactics. The last is Planescape: Torment. I was going to list more Bioware games, but I realized that everything they've done since NWN has had the same basic plot.

The rest? I remember playing games like Star Ocean 2, Wild Arms, Xenogears, Vandal Hearts, Septerra Core and a whole bunch of others. Now that I know better, these games have all sorts of problems with events jumping erratically from place to place, writers not knowing the meaning of the word "pacing" and awful awful translations (It are sick!).

"We lost some of our games when the FPS became big, We coped, we have good games to play still, Quit playing chicken little and have your fun."

You're really assuming here that we'd have less copycat games if we didn't have Halo. Does it really matter what genre the most copied game is? You'll always have cop-outs. You can look at the current state of MMORPGs: WoW eclipses all and very few even try to do something different, because they want WoW's subscribers. There are some wise companies out there (CCP, Jagex), but those are few and far between.

 

[Bocca]

I don't hate Halo 3 its just, average and nothing else. Halo 1 was revolutionary, amazing stuff and in my opinion the very best of the series. Halo 2 sucked and Halo 3 was average, of course thats just my opinion and I'm talking about the campaign.

 

[TerraMGP]

JRPGs had stories that were often complex, dark, and interesting like the good books they should have been.

Good books? Complex and interesting? What?

I can come up with a total of 5 RPGs that had truly interesting plots. One of them is Final Fantasy VI (VII loses simply because of its half-assed translation). The second is Panzer Dragoon Saga. The third is Baldur's Gate 2. Final Fantasy Tactics. The last is Planescape: Torment. I was going to list more Bioware games, but I realized that everything they've done since NWN has had the same basic plot.

The rest? I remember playing games like Star Ocean 2, Wild Arms, Xenogears, Vandal Hearts, Septerra Core and a whole bunch of others. Now that I know better, these games have all sorts of problems with events jumping erratically from place to place, writers not knowing the meaning of the word "pacing" and awful awful translations (It are sick!).

"We lost some of our games when the FPS became big, We coped, we have good games to play still, Quit playing chicken little and have your fun."

You're really assuming here that we'd have less copycat games if we didn't have Halo. Does it really matter what genre the most copied game is? You'll always have cop-outs. You can look at the current state of MMORPGs: WoW eclipses all and very few even try to do something different, because they want WoW's subscribers. There are some wise companies out there (CCP, Jagex), but those are few and far between.

The Fallout games, The massive Shin megami tensai set of games including series such as Persona, Nocturne and Digital Devil saga, FF9 if you give it half a chance. There are plenty of other good RPGs out there, granted not everyone may enjoy them but frankly not everyone else loves the silmarillion and its my favorite book.

 

[anNIALLator]

This is a topic I can't get my head around. I absolutely loved Halo 3. A game doesn't have to be really innovative (in my opinion, it was) to be good, and ok, it's not the best game in the world, but it is a great one. People argue that COD4 had better multiplayer, but I think that the beauty of Halo 3 comes from the wide variety of games you can play, coupled with forge. You can have a really serious competitive game, or you can just have a mess about game with low gravity, 300% speed and gravity hammers, or a game of Grifball. Also, there's the crazy magic bullet stuff that you get in Halo like the warthog flying through the air and hitting the guy just as he jumps etc. In what other game do you get hilarious stuff like that?

 

[Senock]

I thought that like Time Splitters was the first decent console FPS, or was that just the playstation 2's first good FPS.

 

[GenHellspawn]

It's called Hype Aversion: The more popular something is, the more likely people will hate it.
Personally, I think it's a pretty good console shooter, and not much else.

 

[Shotgunbunny]

To console gamers I'm sure it's freaking amazing, but on PC we had everything that Halo had to offer and more like 10 years before it.

 

[Nivag the Owl]

Why don't people get that people state their opinions? I personally think it's a bad game. What gave anyone the impression I was speaking on behalf of the world?

I don't like it because the entire concept bores me to no end, which is the whole space-marine vs alien BLAH BLAH BLAH someone please come up with something original. Granted some things can be repetitive without infurating me but this it definitely not one of them.

 

[Seydaman]

Some people like average.

just like my little brother likes shitty

 

[Hamster at Dawn]

Halo 3 was an average shooter. The online was very expansive in terms of features which was why it got such good reviews. The game was in no way bad but it didn't have anything that other games hadn't already done before.

...and Team Fortress kicks Halo's ass.

 

[Archaeology Hat]

I don't hate Halo 3, I just dont see why its well... needed. Halo was great Halo 2 and 3 just felt like tacked on cash-ins.

A bit like the newer Star-Wars films.