Why don't you do drugs?

[whaleswiththumbs]

I have drank some. But i don't do drugs because i dont want to and dont need them. And besides that whole illegal deal kinda stops me from just going with it. Not that i'm afraid to do anything illegal, just not stupid illegal.

 

[Sebass]

Well, I have seen how drug users can really hurt others, without knowing it, and if you buy them off the street, who knows what kind of shit the dealer may include. Also, no money, (well, not much) and I'm not that healthy as it is. But yeah, the only drugs I ever took were perscribed, or a bit of alchohol. Never even smoked a cigarette. I don't even know where to find drugs.

Congratulations on getting reply number 420 in this thread.

 

[fleischwolke]

I don't do drugs because I really could get used to them.

 

[Kagim]

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Ignorant implies refusal to accept or learn a truth. Not lack of Knowledge. Your saying people who do not think like you only do so because they just refuse to accept your truth.

Uninformed means lack of knowledge.

I gave you my advice for people to respect your opinion. Take it or leave it. I'm going to be joining everyone else in ignoring you now.

 

[Mako SOLDIER]

I've just been inspired by the poll of people saying they don't do drugs, and kudos to you people for standing up for... something....
Thing is, as a recreational drug user myself it is hard to understand why people are so against it.
As such, I wanted to open up this thread for logical reasons why one should not do drugs and I'll see if I can respond to them.
Just so we're clear, alcohol is a drug as well. If you tell me you don't do drugs but you occasionally drink, you are a recreational drug user just without the stigma of being one.

Well, I used to be a fairly enthusiastic weed smoker, but it started giving me panic attacks so I stopped. The anxiety it caused is now manageable but has pretty much stolen years of my life where I haven't been able to work or even enjoy simple things. Sure, it won't trigger mental health issues in everyone, but if someone has an underlying predisposition then it will inevitably trigger it, even if that person would otherwise have lived their whole life without it actually manifesting. That's why I don't use recreational drugs and never would.

The unfortunate fact of the matter it that drugs are illegal for a reason. Unfortunately, drug users often mistake government exaggeration about the risks of drugs for outright lies. Newsflash, a single E won't always kill you, but the likelihood of it doing so is high enough to justify the illegal status. I even once saw a leaflet that was circulating around the group I used to smoke with that claimed that the government was gaining money from restricting marijuana use and taking a cut from columbian drug dealers after they sell it at higher prices on the black market. Seriously, the justifications that drug users will come up with to convince themselves that their chosen vice is actually safe are often frankly ridiculous.

I'm by no means a 'if the government says so, it must be true' kind of person (in fact I research any prescription I'm given and make an educated decision based on that information), but when it comes to illegal drugs they're usually right.

Or perhaps some people have libertarian views?

Why exactly should government tell you what you can or can't do with your body? Even now, there are plenty legal and completely deadly goods. Tobacco, for example. And if you bought cigarettes, you'd see all the warnings they have to put on them now.

And I'm fine with that. People should be educated about things, instead of simply banning what is harmful. Plenty of things are harmful, and frankly I don't need the government to babysit me. If I choose to participate in a harmful activity, whether it's drug use, extreme sports, or anything really, it's my own body and my own choice. And I'm the only owner of my body, thank you very much, as it should be.

Government should educate instead of banning.

With all due respect, your argument is more than a little unrealistic. In the ideal world, everything would be legal and the public would know enough about every available drug to make their own educated decicion. Now consider the fact that no government on the planet can even make up its mind on sex education and you realise how unlikely a safe level of education actually is. The only difference between the government telling you you can't ram a kitchen knife up your own nose and the government telling you that you can't do coke is that people are actually stupid enough to do the latter. Common sense doesn't need to be legislated. If a close friends were to say 'try this, it's amazing' you wouldn't do the kitchen knife thing because you'd know it's ridiculous. When it comes to substance abuse it's harder because we have no evolutionary instincts about it. We know that sharp things going into our body is bad. We never evolved to justifiably fear a powder or a pill, thus we're prone to the urge to experience things for ourselves.

When it comes to human rights, I'm going to support the right of the general public to go about their lives without being mugged for drug money or attacked by someone whose weed use has triggered serious paranoia issues. These things do happen, and they happen often. A lot of people are that deluded that they assume that just because a drug hasn't affected them adversely then obviously it must be safe and all of those pesky facts about it must just be propaganda. Sadly, this is delusion of the highest order. If someone wants to screw themselves up on their drug of choice, then fine, they can be my guest, but the solid fact of the matter is that drug users often become a danger to others just as much as to themselves. Sure, it varies depending upon the drug, but the risk is always there. Anything that effects the state of mind of an individual and reduces their ability to think and act rationally is potentially dangerous. There is, of course, the alcohol question, as that is indeed often the root cause of violence, but at least a small amount of alcohol is usually mild in its effect. A small amount of cocaine isn't. A small amount of weed can create the full effect of the drug within a matter of minutes. You can't just 'have a half and then drink fruit juice all night' on heroine.

As for tobacco, yeah, considering how addictive and damaging it is (and the fact that it has indeed been linked with anxiety and depression), logically it should be illegal. Just because it isn't though, doesn't mean that everything else should suddenly be legalised. It should go the other way. Yeah, a lot of people will hate the idea, but it's up to the government that previously supported tobacco to enforce the change in the law and to provide the help for everyone who not only wants to quit but legally must. A 'smoking is ok but drugs are bad' mentality is of course hypocritical and/or ill-informed.

Frankly, the argument against the banning of most currently illegal drugs is almost universally ill-considered and hinges on glib over-simplifications of human rights issues or risibly moronic pro-drug propaganda.

 

[Fralf]

I've got this plot i'm gonna wait till i'm about ninety and then use all my lifesavings and anything else that could be used as inherentence and i'll buy every drug on the market. you see if you wait long enough you will die of old age before you can feel the ill effects of the drugs, i.e. you won't get addicted.

 

[BringBackBuck]

Because people who do drugs are dumb fucks. Plain and simple.

Well that was unnecessary.

The reason I don't do drugs (other than alcohol) is because I have responsibilities now, and I guess I have just moved on from that phase of my life.

I'm sure there's plenty of people on this thread who are in the phase of "I will do this for a while because it is heaps of fun but it's not like I am going to smoke weed and get wasted everyday for the rest of my life". Well that is where I was, and I am now in the rest of my life bit. I think that is an entirely reasonable choice to make. I smoked lots of pot, did a bit of speed, ecstasy, and drank myself into unconsciousness on many many occasions did heaps of stupid stuff. I look back and think those were fun times.

I never harmed myself seriously, do not have a criminal record, did not become bankrupt or an addict, around my mid twenties met a nice girl and am now married with kids and am successful by all standard measures of society.

Sometimes intelligent, motivated, successful people take drugs. They do it because it's fun. Not to fit in with the cool kids, not because they have low self esteem, not because they are too stupid to understand the risks. For fun. And damn it was fun.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Those guys: The ones who bail on their friends all day because they think the girl they are with is the only thing for them in the world. They don't understand the joys of teenage experiences with females and what to get married and what not. Stuck in the 14 year olds mind set.

I've never understood this idea how somebody 'bailing' on their friends because they are with their girlfriend is bad?

Suely romance is just as important as friendship (if not more). From both a social and biological perspective. If she is the much touted 'one' then you should want to spend more time with her than your friends. Particularly if early into the relationship.

Friends are friends ... they are there and won't leave. But sometimes you only have one shot to turn a 'fling' into a lasting relationship.

Surely any person who is truly your friend will reconcile with this and respect your right to find happiness in another. Otherwise they are a lousy friend ....

 

[Mako SOLDIER]

Ignorant = lack of knowledge.

Ignorant does N0T mean stupid etc.

Not getting into the drugs debate with you, as I've already made my views on the matter clear, but consider the fact that although the dictionary definition of ignorant involves a lack of knowledge or general awareness of a subject, the common usage implies that said lack of knowledge is willful. Obviously this is an incorrect usage, but it is unfortunately the prevalent one and we must always allow for the evolution of language even if we find it unpalatable.

 

[Mako SOLDIER]

I've got this plot i'm gonna wait till i'm about ninety and then use all my lifesavings and anything else that could be used as inherentence and i'll buy every drug on the market. you see if you wait long enough you will die of old age before you can feel the ill effects of the drugs, i.e. you won't get addicted.

Lol, if you buy every drug on the market you'll be dead within days. Plus, way to screw over your entire family by spending all their potential inheritence on shit I do get the impression that you're joking though.

 

[Primate]

Well, I do a lot of drugs, so I probably shouldn't be on here, but I will say one thing. Speaking as a drug user myself, I do not lose respect for people if they don't do drugs. Some guys I know do, they think that if you don't do drugs, you're "square" and that you're somehow lesser. I do not think that, and think that it's stupid to think that. HOWEVER, I do think that if you make the assumption that everyone that uses drugs is an easily led moron who's just doing it because it's cool, then you're an easily led moron yourself.
Life is for the person who is living it. Choose your own path, and find happiness.

I'm interested in this thread though.

EDIT: Also, one other thing. Don't assume that everyone who does drugs uses it as a coping mechanism.

I second this statement, and agree with every single word in it, nice one Furburt

EDIT : though I don't do A LOT of drugs, but I smoke my fair share..

 

[dex-dex]

i have done think like drink alcohol, pot and smoked for a short period. but i do not see the fun in it.
not remembering what happened that night disturbs me because my memory is pretty bad now.
but there is nothing wrong with having one drink. especially with coffee mmmmmmmmmm bailey's coffee

 

[Lord Honk]

I'm a student at a fairly large (35000+ students) uni, and I have yet to come across someone who would supply me with them. Seems I know the wrong people xD
Anyway, actually aquiring drugs is more of a hassle for me than I'd be willing to put in for a kick, I'd rather relax and/or do something fun. And isn't that why you'd even want to take drugs? "Having a good time"? I can get that AND save the money, so I see no loss for me.

edit: On the point of "legal" drugs, meh, still too much to go through for too little gain.

 

[Fralf]

I've got this plot i'm gonna wait till i'm about ninety and then use all my lifesavings and anything else that could be used as inherentence and i'll buy every drug on the market. you see if you wait long enough you will die of old age before you can feel the ill effects of the drugs, i.e. you won't get addicted.

Lol, if you buy every drug on the market you'll be dead within days. Plus, way to screw over your entire family by spending all their potential inheritence on shit I do get the impression that you're joking though.

exactly let them get there own damb money, i think that mixing money with death makes my demise seem less sad. and secondly yes i will die within days but i will die happy.

 

[DarkHourPrince]

I'd be single (which is bad) and I already barely afford living as it is I don't need something else to kill my finances on.

 

[craddoke]

1. I don't like to waste money (no drugs, drinking, smoking - I mean, seriously, wine can double your restaurant bill. What's wrong with water?)
2. I don't like to waste time (and time when I'm not myself because of chemical influence is wasted time; oblivion comes for us all soon enough)

 

[Sixties Spidey]

Because people who do drugs are dumb fucks. Plain and simple.

Well that was unnecessary.

The reason I don't do drugs (other than alcohol) is because I have responsibilities now, and I guess I have just moved on from that phase of my life.

I'm sure there's plenty of people on this thread who are in the phase of "I will do this for a while because it is heaps of fun but it's not like I am going to smoke weed and get wasted everyday for the rest of my life". Well that is where I was, and I am now in the rest of my life bit. I think that is an entirely reasonable choice to make. I smoked lots of pot, did a bit of speed, ecstasy, and drank myself into unconsciousness on many many occasions did heaps of stupid stuff. I look back and think those were fun times.

I never harmed myself seriously, do not have a criminal record, did not become bankrupt or an addict, around my mid twenties met a nice girl and am now married with kids and am successful by all standard measures of society.

Sometimes intelligent, motivated, successful people take drugs. They do it because it's fun. Not to fit in with the cool kids, not because they have low self esteem, not because they are too stupid to understand the risks. For fun. And damn it was fun.

The thing I'm the most afraid about when it comes to drugs is getting addicted. But I don't even want to try it because A: I'm muslim, so drugs and alcohol are against my religion, B: I never found it appealing to begin with, and C: Certain friends of mine take drugs and they turned from nice chaps into total pissants.

So yeah. I don't do drugs for a good reason.

 

[Hookman]

I take drugs but its sort of against my will. Because of my current condition I have to regularly take Codine (Painkillers) and Ondansedtron (Antisickness). I dont drink or take any other drugs although I have thought of experimenting with weed and I still might one day.

 

[masqueblanc]

*Shrug* Why would I do drugs?