dathwampeer said:
I don't quite get this new fangled movement of 'I don't need substances to have a good time', then being proud of it. Its not an achievement. Don't get me wrong. If you don't want to take any drugs that's fine. But don't become all high and mighty over it. I can have a good time without drinking alcohol, or smoking weed, or any of the other stuff ¬¬, but sometimes they enhance the night.
Because its how they choose to live there lives and they feel proud of it. Just because someone is proud they didn't take drugs doesn't mean they are high and mighty. They just see it as a personal achievement when growing up, namely in highschool, when you have a horribly high amount of pressure from many angles to drink and use drugs. People feel proud they resisted peer pressure.
What iv found when talking about this with people. Is that those who haven't tried it are very quick to knock it. I have my limits. There I things I won't touch. But that's not because I've been told its bad for me and I've blindly accepted it. I do research into anything before I try it.
So do I. I find most people who use it are quick to dismissive real issues with the drugs regardless off proof and claim anyone who says otherwise merely has an agenda.
People are very quick to condemn those who drink excessive amounts of alcohol, or smoke weed, or take shrooms, lsd yadda yadda yadda, simply because they have been told its bad for you.
Drinking excessive amounts of alcohol is incredibly bad for you. Why would you say otherwise? This isn't a matter of being told its bad for me. Its the matter of common sense telling me that if i drink something to the point of vomiting and passing out that
maybe it might be something i shouldn't be doing.
You're more likely to do damage to yourself by eating pre-packaged foods found in local supermarkets, or leaving your router turned on over night than you are from occasionally binge drinking or smoking a doobie.
Smoking a joint yes. Binge drinking NO. The physical effects of drinking till you flush your body of everything and waking up in your own vomit are far worse then eating a hungry man meal.
Its a persons own choice if they take drugs. The effects that may have on their body and their relationships are for them to worry about. And I can safely tell you, being a recreational drug user on occasion myself, that if taken with a sensible attitude and in moderation. Most drugs are not what they have been made out to be.
Weed yes. However harder drugs have more sever effects not only because of what it is but how it is ingested. Take Cocaine for example. While alone its not honestly that harmful of a drug if used responsibly and in incredible moderation, however the average person snorts the shit up there nose. The majority of the damage caused by cocaine is caused because of snorting, not the drug itself. As well needle drugs you can be in danger due simply to shared needles. It might not be a problem to people with a fair amount of money but the average heroin user isn't the big city law man on tv but people on the streets.
Honestly, addiction is a dead issues with most drugs. Things like crystal meth, cocaine, heroine and other really hard substances do have very strong addictive properties. And those types of drugs can destroy lives.
No. All drugs have powerful addictive properties, not just the hard ones.
But for the recreational narcotics.I don't think I can name one person that I know who is addicted to weed, or shrooms, or acid. Alcohol has its issues with addiction. But I think you would have to consume vast quantities of that before it becomes an issue. As I said, moderation and common sense are key here.
You are thinking of addiction in the physical chemical reliance sense. I know people addicted to shrooms and weed. In fact weed and in particular(and mostly because i know a fair bit more about it then shrooms) is a lot more addictive then any alcohol. You see its the weeds lack of physical backlash that makes it so addictive. Since smoking a joint has no repercussions someone can take it for any and all reasons. Which leads to people taking it every time the slightest bad thing happens in there life. It turns into a crutch. This is where you get either the people who throw massive fits in public whenever something bad happens because they can't deal with problems sober. Or you get the gateway effect your teachers taught you, though inaccurately, in school. People who have medicated every problem with weed and eventually grow immune to the effects end up taking harder shit because its the only way to deal with the fact it rained the day they wanted to go on a picnic.
Can this happen with booze? Yes. Is it more likely to happen with booze? No. If someone smokes a joint to forget there problems and doesn't suffer any consequences for it and someone binge drinks and spends the next day vomiting with a pounding headache who is more likely to go do it again? Not only that but immunization against alcohols effects is incredible hard if not impossible. Weed grows weaker since it builds up in your system. However Alcohol quickly passes out of your system. Meaning someone who gets thrashed every night will not feel the effects of the alcohol numbing. The only effect that diminishes over time with alcohol is the placebo effect.
Like you said moderation and common sense are key. However if everyone had those tools in there head then we wouldn't be having this conversation now would we?
Not to mention most of the research that has been done in THC and its effects on mental stability maintain that its inconclusive. And most people who tell you otherwise have an agenda.
Just because they don't agree with you doesn't mean they have an agenda.
I could go on for pages as to why weed is illegal and considered the devil substance that people say. But the short hand is, go pull up some info on William Randolph Hearst and his timber company scandal.
Move to Canada. Nobody considers it a devil product. While i don't know about the USA here we have no mandatory minimum sentences for selling of Weed, and only weed, as long as your not selling it to kids, for a crime syndicate, or have over 500 independent root systems. The maximum possible was seven years until Harper bumped it to 14. With parole.
I'd suggest some people do some actual research into why certain drugs are illegal, but others aren't. Because I assure you it isn't public safety that's prompting it. The LEGAL concoctions you buy at your local DRUGS store and take for headaches and to rearrange your biological clock, do more damage than most of the stuff listed on the 'dangerous substances act.' peoples ignorance in this matter is quite unnerving.
I do do my research, and i find the amount drug users are willing to ignore actual side effects of drugs because "Well it didn't happen to me" is more damaging to there case then anything else. I don't concern myself with the political and focus on the chemical because i find the effects of a particular drug more important then a government suits opinion on it.
Don't judge what you don't understand.
Not everyone does. Some of us have done research, and we just did not like what we saw.
