Why is Male gayness "worse" than Female Gayness

[floopdawoop]

Maybe the ratio of people who like chicks (straight guys, lesbians) to people who like dudes (straight girls, Homosexual male) has something to do with it. If more people are into chicks then two girls getting it on would probably be more accepted, and vice versa, because it's within the majority's preferences.

 

[JohnTomorrow]

I think homosexual men are perceived badly because the actual act that the majority of people's perception of two men having sex together would have to include anal penetration, and since males are considered the stronger and savager of the sexes, then the act of anal penetration in man/man sex is considered a violent act, one of the most violent acts you could perform upon a straight man. If a man is being violated in such a way and is enjoying it, then typically a straight male would not enjoy the idea, because he would have to think of himself in the same position to compare, and since he is straight he has problems with it.

On the flipside, as females are considered the gentler of the sexes, a female/female sexual act derives a softness and gentle act. Not to mention, males tend to perceive females as sexual objects - so what is better then one sexually attractive female then two sexually attractive females, who are also obviously aroused enough to perform sexual acts upon one another for (in a male's perspective) no obvious reason then to tittilate males, who would want nothing more but to join in - mostly, i think, because instinctually he'd have two females to impregnate instead of just one. I think this is also the reason why a lot of men who get rejected by women get upset and call them a 'dyke' or something derogatory - they feel bad for being rejected and have no option but to insult the woman for not fulfilling her genetic perogative as well as his feelings, the poor little boy.

I have no problem with gay relationships, but i physically feel revulsion when i think of two men having anal sex. Though, i always feel revulsion when i think of anal sex, so thats just me. I find it interesting, however, that there is typically a 'giver and a taker' in such a relationship - that is, there is normally one male who gives anal more then he takes it - or, as my friend puts it, he like to 'bat' more then he likes to 'catch'.

 

[Aurgelmir]

As a Lesbian myself, I hold no ill will towards gay people, but recently I've been noticing that in most media, It is more acceptable for a woman to be gay that it is for a man. For example the possible relationship in Mass Effect (No I love those games. I'm not criticizing them). Can anyone think of a reason this might be =/ ? knowing myself this is probably something that everyone noticed ages ago lol.

Here is a hypothesis I once heard:

Back when we were cave men, we had a polygamous society where one man got most of the girls in one tribe. (like the lions and wolves does it).
So in the tribe there would be the Alpha man and Alpha woman.
The Alpha Woman would have just as much say as to who gets to sleep with the man as the man does. So what is a good way to get into the pants of the Alpha male? Well get cozy with the female.

And that was the explenation of:
Why are there more "gay" women in nightclubs?
Why do men like to watch to girls kiss?
And
Why does it seem more socially acceptable to be a Lesbian.


If this is true or not I don't know, but it is a fun anecdote if nothing more

 

[Dags90]

I find it interesting, however, that there is typically a 'giver and a taker' in such a relationship - that is, there is normally one male who gives anal more then he takes it - or, as my friend puts it, he like to 'bat' more then he likes to 'catch'.

Why is it interesting that people have position preferences? And the baseball metaphor is supposed to be "pitching", because the catcher takes what the pitcher gives him (in this case, a penis). I don't know what the hell "batting" would be, but it sounds violent. And I guess if you're British it'd be bowler? That just sounds silly. Cricket is silly.

 

[Lucane]

Thunk if someone did a random polling with people either claiming(truthfully)that they are either: Straight/Male,Straight/Female,Gay or Lesbian

Lesbians (Of course) would find two women together good along with a majority of men (1+1=won)man are usually visual about deciding what we like so more of a good thing usually better.

Gay(As in just men. [Why is it male terms for things tend to overlap as the whole for male and female of things? like Actor:Actor/Actress or God:God/Goddess etc.]) Like male on male interaction (I'm not a woman so I can only speak about what I perceive.) while straight women want to view the male body and/or have said male(s) focusing attention towards a woman otherwise it's a clash of interest when a guy interacts with a masculine figure when they consider themselves distant from it.

Straight women and men like above likely enjoy their own group while Gay/Lesbian people(I've never really asked or witnessed the reaction of people I know in said groups) Either consider it Par for the course,Happens so often their used to it, or just don't want to be a publicly hypocritical about it while they are deemed a lesser group or just not for them but enjoy the emotion symbolized in certain laws/locations.

I don't think there is a consistent enough trend for Bi and Trans-gendered folk to consider a basic rational for them like the others.

So basically it's 2 groups who have a majority in favor of Lesbian style interactions, 2 for straight style and 1 for Gay style interactions.

So as long as Straight males are considered the majority most media will wish to cater to them and anyone who can also fall into that net over anyone else rather than alienate them Unless it's a special interest project(Meaning targeting statistically smaller interest group.)

 

[Gigano]

Because homophobia is most common amongst the lesser kinds of young heterosexual men, for whom reflection, principles, and consistency are foreign concepts.

They act and judge solely on their own most primitive instincts, and those say "two women hot"/"two men icky".

Of course, there's no actual ethical difference to be found; both kinds are equally harmless and entirely unproblematic in ethical terms.

 

[The Mehster]

Drag queens IMO.
Yes. I know, but hear me out. When (Some) homosexuals dress up like women, they have a (somewhat) twisted look at how women are seen. Think about it. Have you ever seen a drag queen that isn't wearing high heels? Have you seen a drag queen that doesn't have insane amounts of makeup on?
Yet for lesbians, I rarely see women who want to look like men.

 

[Soviet Steve]

A) Not all homosexual males like anal sex. Many never participate in that particular act. Those individuals often prefer oral sex.

B) Mostly directed at Istvan - it depends on your definition of major. The Judeo-Christian religions are the ones who are concerned about anal hygiene.

A) I never said that all homosexual males like anal sex and I am aware that some people have/prefer oral sex.

B) Combined they account for more than half of the human population. If that doesn't qualify as major then I'm curious as to what does.

 

[lacktheknack]

Because the average male is a lusty, hypocritical being. Most women, on the other hand, don't really seem to care one way or the other about homosexuality in either gender (note the use of the word "most").

 

[Merkavar]

also as far as im away lesbians dont involve sticking a body part inside a waste disposal unit if you catch my drift.

While I've never seen it myself, I've heard reports that lesbian porn often involves the vagina. Also, sometimes poop.

yeah but lesbians and poop is completely optional. and what i meant was that as far as im aware lesbians dont have sex by putting a body part is someones pooper. vaginas arent a waste disposal unit like a poop shute is.

i was wording it like that so i dont offend some cry baby and get suspended again.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Because men are perverted. And gay men are more largely targeted by homophobes.

But mostly the perverted part.

Mmmhmm.

And the heterosexual perverts can't stand their imaginations working in the wrong direction.

So they demonize gay males as a way to counter those thoughts.

At least that is my theory.

 

[Dags90]

Drag queens IMO.
Yes. I know, but hear me out. When (Some) homosexuals dress up like women, they have a (somewhat) twisted look at how women are seen. Think about it. Have you ever seen a drag queen that isn't wearing high heels? Have you seen a drag queen that doesn't have insane amounts of makeup on?
Yet for lesbians, I rarely see women who want to look like men.

Drag is a form of comedy, not restricted to gay men, where part of the humor comes from exaggerated gender stereotyping. The over-the-top part is intentional, it's satire of the physical demands we place on women. As RuPaul said, "I do not impersonate females! How many women do you know who wear seven-inch heels, four-foot wigs, and skintight dresses?"

vaginas arent a waste disposal unit like a poop shute is.

i was wording it like that so i dont offend some cry baby and get suspended again.

Most women I know pee out their vaginas. I imagine only a small minority don't. Vaginas are also crawling with bacteria and other microbes.

 

[Epic Fail 1977]

As a Lesbian myself, I hold no ill will towards gay people, but recently I've been noticing that in most media, It is more acceptable for a woman to be gay that it is for a man. For example the possible relationship in Mass Effect (No I love those games. I'm not criticizing them). Can anyone think of a reason this might be =/ ? knowing myself this is probably something that everyone noticed ages ago lol.

Most media is made by men for men. But if I may give my answer to what I think was the underlying question about human nature:

A homosexual man is seen as less "manly" because he will likely not reproduce.
A homosexual woman is not so much seen as less "womanly" because she can still reproduce.
That's really what I think lies at the bottom of it all.

 

[Ladette]

I'd guess that straight males are seen as the default and their default view on homosexuality is seen as Girl+Girl= Hot / Guy+Guy= Eww. That may not be true, but it is how the media tends to precieve it.

 

[IronicBeet]

That's mainly in media specifically aimed primarily at men.

At large, homophobes don't make the distinction.

Men are perverts. Thats why. Two girls to them is appealing because they foolishly think they could one day be involved perhaps. Maybe some realize they cant but like to see.

I take it you've never met any yaoi fans. Perversion is gender-independent; women are just acculturated to hide it more.

Yaoi fans dont make life more difficult for lesbians.

Right, they make life harder for gay guys.

 

[BlueMage]

Because of insertion. Long and slow or sharp and powerful, it all comes back to the insertion.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

A) Not all homosexual males like anal sex. Many never participate in that particular act. Those individuals often prefer oral sex.

B) Mostly directed at Istvan - it depends on your definition of major. The Judeo-Christian religions are the ones who are concerned about anal hygiene.

A) I never said that all homosexual males like anal sex and I am aware that some people have/prefer oral sex.

B) Combined they account for more than half of the human population. If that doesn't qualify as major then I'm curious as to what does.

A) You said sodomy. Unless you are confused about sodomy meaning anal sex, I don't really see how someone could take that any other way.

B) The third largest, Hinduism, doesn't give a toss what goes where. Also, I would have fault with your numbers, but that is totally not what this thread is about and we've wandered way off topic.

The bottom line is, people keep talking about anal sex in this thread - you did, as did several others, but you were one of two on the page when I posted. If I could retroactively add everyone else (and have them notice), I would, because it is a really annoying misconception. Case in point...

yeah but lesbians and poop is completely optional. and what i meant was that as far as im aware lesbians dont have sex by putting a body part is someones pooper. vaginas arent a waste disposal unit like a poop shute is.

See quoted text above - poop is completely optional for gay men as well. Many choose to avoid that particular hole. Oral sex is much more common among gay men than anal.

vaginas arent a waste disposal unit like a poop shute is.

i was wording it like that so i dont offend some cry baby and get suspended again.

Most women I know pee out their vaginas. I imagine only a small minority don't. Vaginas are also crawling with bacteria and other microbes.

Also this. Well said, Dags90.

 

[BlueMage]

mostly, i think, because instinctually he'd have two females to impregnate instead of just one.

Actually, this is THE reason. Biological imperatives for the win!

I think this is also the reason why a lot of men who get rejected by women get upset and call them a 'dyke' or something derogatory - they feel bad for being rejected and have no option but to insult the woman for not fulfilling her genetic perogative as well as his feelings, the poor little boy.

Pretty much.

 

[Maxtro]

I think it's because some people believe two women having sex, isn't really having sex because there is no penetration. So there is nothing wrong with it.

Also, men are attracted to women, so there really isn't anything wrong with two girls, as long as they are both attractive.

Straight men are not attracted to men at all. Personally I find nothing appealing about the male face or form.

Lastly, the sight of two men kissing, gives me an immediate feeling of disgust.