Why is Male gayness "worse" than Female Gayness

[zerobudgetgamer]

Can we cut the "men are perverted" horseshit? Stop holding women up on a pedestal and maybe some fucking gender equality might happen.

God.

Ask a typical man to reveal his porn stash to you, then ask a typical female to do the same. Most of the time the man will not only have a larger stash, but in some cases will have a much wider variety of stuff. Just look around sometime at your local drug store at all the available porn and try to count how much gay/female magazines there are compared to the number of heterosexual male magazines.

It's less about holding women up on pedestals and more quoting decades of proven fact.

So can you explain to me why the male libido has to be considered perverse in comparison its female counterpart?

Mainly because males are more prone to pursuing their libido?

Seriously, look it up. Google anything you like about the subject. "Masturbation", "Libido," "Sex Drive", just add "Male versus Female" and most of the sites that come up say the same thing. Men masturbate more than women, both in number of times in a lifetime and in overall percentage. Men are also more prone to having "quick" sex, where there is little to no foreplay, whereas women greatly value foreplay.

Anecdotal data may say otherwise; maybe you see a lot of horny women trying to bang men, while the men are typically cupping their balls in fear of being raped. But history and scientific studies have shown that males typically have the "stronger" libido, so they are more prone to being "perverse" and actively pursue sex, possibly to a greater extent than females.

 

[notyouraveragejoe]

Because a lot of media panders to straight males and they think lesbians are hot while gay men are gross and possibly intimidating. Maybe I'm oversimplifying it, but that strikes me as the obvious answer.

Yeah its very true. Also, in my case (bisexual male), as soon as I came out about half of my guy friends said they were now worried I had the hots for them/was hitting on them.

Oh my God, yes! Also a bi male and pretty much every male friend I told reacted with:"You're not gonna try to suck my dick now, right?" Seriously, what the fuck is up with that?

However what I find worse is that I can't even openly suggest that my preference is for males rather then female because then all my friends will not only react like but will also say that I'm a sissy/wimp. Worst experience I had was when I told a friend and was forced to play it off as a joke because of exactly how poorly he reacted...it was quite terrible.

What I also find weird is that so far more girls have been okay with my coming out whereas guys...well less so.

 

[thiosk]

Because boys have penises (gross) and girls have vaginas (awesome)

 

[Talo_AML]

Another note: Anyone else find it amusing that everyone assumes that "lesbians" automatically means two HOT chicks?

Spoiler

Forgive me....

GAHHH! MY EYES!

 

[Bobbity]

Because female gayness is hot?

Jokes.

There is a double standard, and it's imposed by those who are insecure with their own sexuality, but obviously don't feel threatened by lesbianism.

 

[SwimmingRock]

Because a lot of media panders to straight males and they think lesbians are hot while gay men are gross and possibly intimidating. Maybe I'm oversimplifying it, but that strikes me as the obvious answer.

Yeah its very true. Also, in my case (bisexual male), as soon as I came out about half of my guy friends said they were now worried I had the hots for them/was hitting on them.

Oh my God, yes! Also a bi male and pretty much every male friend I told reacted with:"You're not gonna try to suck my dick now, right?" Seriously, what the fuck is up with that?

However what I find worse is that I can't even openly suggest that my preference is for males rather then female because then all my friends will not only react like but will also say that I'm a sissy/wimp. Worst experience I had was when I told a friend and was forced to play it off as a joke because of exactly how poorly he reacted...it was quite terrible.

Dude, that sucks. Fortunately, aside from initial dickishness, all my friends are open-minded and loyal enough not to have made a big deal out of it.

Also, on the matter of preference (and you don't have to answer if you don't want to), do you also find that it varies? I don't know any other bi people irl, so I've never been able to compare this to somebody else. My preference seems to ebb and flow over time. I get that you're more into men, but does the degree vary? Sorry if this is getting tmfi.

What I also find weird is that so far more girls have been okay with my coming out whereas guys...well less so.

Similarly, none of my female friends reacted negatively, one said it was awesome and another high-fived me. I'm not sure why it's that way, though.

 

[hooksashands]

It's not worse, the fairer sex just happens to be more marketable.

I've seen straight girls who think it's the bees-knees when two gay boys are making out.

Let's also not forget yaoi or whatever it's called. It's very existence speaks otherwise.

 

[Ladette]

What I also find weird is that so far more girls have been okay with my coming out whereas guys...well less so.

What's weird about that? A lot of woman are more comfortable around gay/bi men because they see them as less threatening and not completely sex crazed like the stereotypical male.

In highschool when I started showing an intrest in girls I had the same questions asked. Although my friends were more offended that I wasn't attracted to them then weirded out because I was a lesbian.

 

[SwimmingRock]

What's weird about that? A lot of woman are more comfortable around gay/bi men because they see them as less threatening and not completely sex crazed like the stereotypical male.

That's precisely the part I don't get. I get why gay guys come across as less interested in sex with the women in question, but unless we're working with entirely different definitions of bisexual here, being a bi male still means I want to have sex with attractive women. It also does not, for unexplained reasons, make me less "sex crazed" than straight men.

 

[theguiltyone]

What's weird about that? A lot of woman are more comfortable around gay/bi men because they see them as less threatening and not completely sex crazed like the stereotypical male.

That's precisely the part I don't get. I get why gay guys come across as less interested in sex with the women in question, but unless we're working with entirely different definitions of bisexual here, being a bi male still means I want to have sex with attractive women. It also does not, for unexplained reasons, make me less "sex crazed" than straight men.

It does, however, increase the chances that you can share a view of a fine posterior passing down the street and go "DAMN" in unison. Which is always fun.

 

[Ladette]

What's weird about that? A lot of woman are more comfortable around gay/bi men because they see them as less threatening and not completely sex crazed like the stereotypical male.

That's precisely the part I don't get. I get why gay guys come across as less interested in sex with the women in question, but unless we're working with entirely different definitions of bisexual here, being a bi male still means I want to have sex with attractive women. It also does not, for unexplained reasons, make me less "sex crazed" than straight men.

I admit I don't personally know any bi guys, or woman who are friends with bisexual men. My horribly uneducated opinion would be that, at least partially, sharing a sexual preferance makes them better able to relate to you.

 

[II2]

Men are perverts. Thats why. Two girls to them is appealing because they foolishly think they could one day be involved perhaps. Maybe some realize they cant but like to see.

Because men are perverted.

And women AREN'T?

Almost down to a person, about I'd say most of the girls I've been with or been friends with and more that I've known by proxy indulge offbeat sexual tendancies. The differences are mostly in how they talk about it (or don't, so openly), a more exploratory and less 'anchored' attraction to specific fetishes (exceptions made).

Not saying men aren't, but wouldn't PEOPLE are perverted be a better catch all?

 

[Jonabob87]

I've wondered this myself, I don't like the stuff regardless of gender so it loses me why people can think gay men kissing is disgusting but gay women kissing isn't.

 

[Xerosch]

Two girls going at it is "hotter" then two guys. To me it's all the same really.

Funny, I thought the same. I'm a gay man but two girls fooling around doesn't bother me.

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

American women fall largely into two groups with respect to these issues: most have no problem with gay men, and a sizable minority just side with the male-dominated cultures they belong to. With regard to their feelings on lesbians, I think the consensus seems to be "meh, whatever".

As for men, gay contact is very taboo, so of course most have a problem with homosexuality in men. Homosexual female contact is fine because, as a man, it's acceptable to like women and that's just more women. In fact, I've often heard people claim that lesbian pornography is more wholesome than straight pornography because men don't end up watching other men in any way.

 

[Smooth Operator]

It's worse because everyone loves to see lesbians, and noone apart from gay dudes want's to see gay dudes, in porn anyway.

...okay, have you NEVER heard of yaoi? Slash? Gay erotica made in majority by and for straight women? No? Well you learned something today!

I didn't, but I always asked girls if they like gay porn(under the assumption it's like lesbians for us), not one of them sofar confirmed it.
Then again they are girls and the truth seems to elude their lips quite often.

 

[Arcanist]

As a Lesbian myself, I hold no ill will towards gay people, but recently I've been noticing that in most media, It is more acceptable for a woman to be gay that it is for a man. For example the possible relationship in Mass Effect (No I love those games. I'm not criticizing them). Can anyone think of a reason this might be =/ ? knowing myself this is probably something that everyone noticed ages ago lol.

It's because, despite the best efforts of reformists and social activists, men still a great deal(if not most) of the social and political power in the West. And considering men feel more threatened and confused by male homosexuality than by female homosexuality...

 

[Dags90]

Also, female homosexuality is FAR more common than male. This is probably because because most men won't even consider homosexuality even if they have the capacity to be a homosexual and women tend to be more open-minded.

That is actually not born out by data. Men consistently are more likely to have had homosexual experiences as well as to consider themselves exclusively homosexual. This has been shown in numerous studies including the Kinsey studies, as well as one in the 90's by the journal Nature and is consistent with observations in mammals as a whole.

 

[notyouraveragejoe]

Also, on the matter of preference (and you don't have to answer if you don't want to), do you also find that it varies? I don't know any other bi people irl, so I've never been able to compare this to somebody else. My preference seems to ebb and flow over time. I get that you're more into men, but does the degree vary? Sorry if this is getting tmfi.

What I also find weird is that so far more girls have been okay with my coming out whereas guys...well less so.

Similarly, none of my female friends reacted negatively, one said it was awesome and another high-fived me. I'm not sure why it's that way, though.

Yeah, I've been told it was awesome and my girlfriend has now said that I'm allowed to fool around with one of her guy friends if I wanted. Although another was really annoying since she thought it meant I'd changed and that now I like totally Loved Shopping Oh Mah Gawd!!! And my tastes seem to constantly lead towards Males...however its funny because this is purely sexually whereas for relationships I think I'd prefer being with a girl (though this may be because I'm currently in a relationship with a girl so there is that bias). But in terms of when first meeting someone or looking for someone in a bar...I tend to gravitate towards the men.

What's weird about that? A lot of woman are more comfortable around gay/bi men because they see them as less threatening and not completely sex crazed like the stereotypical male.

That's precisely the part I don't get. I get why gay guys come across as less interested in sex with the women in question, but unless we're working with entirely different definitions of bisexual here, being a bi male still means I want to have sex with attractive women. It also does not, for unexplained reasons, make me less "sex crazed" than straight men.

What I've understood from the girls I've told is that most of them enjoy the ability to have a male friend who can also understand some things from a woman's perspective (particularily being able to comment on how good looking another guy is) but also they think it means that I've changed and am now more stereotypically gay....Only one or two were happy because it meant I was now being open and comfortable about myself.