Why is Metal the dominant music genre on internet gaming forums?

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Marbas

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Another sign of the break that has occurred over the generations in metal--it doesn't get much more "accessible" than Judas Priest's "United."
This is my musical/anti-musical bread and butter [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGzrL8J0t-c]

Every time someone says that metal isn't accessible, I want to smack them.
 

PedroSteckecilo

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Oddly I don't know a single Nerd who is really into metal in Real Life...

Personally I like my melodic alternative (more commonly called Indie Rock) ala The New Pornographers, one of my friends is really into Techno and another has insanely esoteric taste.
 

MiracleOfSound

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Marbas said:
Actually, he's right. It does.
Really? Because there's a shit ton of amateur metal acts out there. They seem to be doing well and having a great time. Because of this, I am skeptical of your claims.

What makes it so much more difficult than every genre. Do you have an actual reason aside from "They play fast"? And don't say complexity, or I'll smack you. If you say complexity, it's like holding up a big sign that says "I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MUSIC".
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Marbas said:
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Every time someone says that metal isn't accessible, I want to smack them.

What are you, the local wannabe web bully?

Couldn't find some real live nerds to threaten so had to do it anonymously over the web? Ooooh you're tough.

I hereby christen you 'Biff'.

Hi, Biff. Shove any kids into lockers today?

Let me dumb down the answer to your question to match the intellect of your posts with thier implications of physical violence...

'Ummm it's like more difficult coz it's like... harder to play, Biffo!'
 

Marbas

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miracleofsound said:
Let me dumb down the answer to your question to match the intellect of your posts with thier implications of physical violence...

'Ummm it's like more difficult coz it's like... harder to play, Biffo!'
I'm sorry I disagreed with you. I promise I shall acquiesce to every arrogant thing you say in the future. Obviously you are the supreme king of all the intarnetz and I am a violent buffoon because I expressed irritation at people grandiosely elevating their music of choice above all other genres.

And why is it harder to play? Are you arguing for technical skill? Because that argument got shot to hell when good music creation software hit the scene. If you had the right tools, you could create pretty much any genre entirely with a computer and no technical skill whatsoever. Furthermore, what about Metal requires more technical or musical skill?
 

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Marbas said:
miracleofsound said:
Let me dumb down the answer to your question to match the intellect of your posts with thier implications of physical violence...

'Ummm it's like more difficult coz it's like... harder to play, Biffo!'
I'm sorry I disagreed with you. I promise I shall acquiesce to every arrogant thing you say in the future. Obviously you are the supreme king of all the intarnetz and I am a violent buffoon because I expressed irritation at people grandiosely elevating their music of choice above all other genres.

And why is it harder to play? Are you arguing for technical skill? Because that argument got shot to hell when good music creation software hit the scene. If you had the right tools, you could create pretty much any genre entirely with a computer and no technical skill whatsoever. Furthermore, what about Metal requires more technical or musical skill?
Technical skill is important; it's what makes the music real.

The programs are cool and everything, but it's just not the same.
 

Marbas

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Akai Shizuku said:
Marbas said:
miracleofsound said:
Let me dumb down the answer to your question to match the intellect of your posts with thier implications of physical violence...

'Ummm it's like more difficult coz it's like... harder to play, Biffo!'
I'm sorry I disagreed with you. I promise I shall acquiesce to every arrogant thing you say in the future. Obviously you are the supreme king of all the intarnetz and I am a violent buffoon because I expressed irritation at people grandiosely elevating their music of choice above all other genres.

And why is it harder to play? Are you arguing for technical skill? Because that argument got shot to hell when good music creation software hit the scene. If you had the right tools, you could create pretty much any genre entirely with a computer and no technical skill whatsoever. Furthermore, what about Metal requires more technical or musical skill?
Technical skill is important; it's what makes the music real.
Way to go, you just insulted every performer of electronic music ever. Also, how does it make it more "real"? It makes it more impressive, certainly, but if you were given an album where all the instrumentation was electronic and one where all the instrumentation was human, and nobody told you which was which you wouldn't know which was which. You also failed to explain how metal takes more technical skill.
 

MiracleOfSound

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Marbas said:
miracleofsound said:
Let me dumb down the answer to your question to match the intellect of your posts with thier implications of physical violence...

'Ummm it's like more difficult coz it's like... harder to play, Biffo!'
I'm sorry I disagreed with you. I promise I shall acquiesce to every arrogant thing you say in the future. Obviously you are the supreme king of all the intarnetz and I am a violent buffoon because I expressed irritation at people grandiosely elevating their music of choice above all other genres.

And why is it harder to play? Are you arguing for technical skill? Because that argument got shot to hell when good music creation software hit the scene. If you had the right tools, you could create pretty much any genre entirely with a computer and no technical skill whatsoever. Furthermore, what about Metal requires more technical or musical skill?
Have you ever actually heard a metal song?

You cannot replicate the sound of a guitar being skillfully played by using a computer. You can sample someone playing it or have a digital sounding MIDI voice make noise vaguely resembling a guitar.

You kind of answered your own question, Biffo.

As someone who has played guitar and piano for years and produces albums of many different genres for a living, I think I am somewhat qualified to opine that becoming proficient at metal requires a lot more musical talent and skill than learning to program loops in Reason and putting a distortion effect and some noise filters onto some drum samples, as the person in that link you posted is doing.
 

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Marbas said:
Akai Shizuku said:
Technical skill is important; it's what makes the music real.
Way to go, you just insulted every performer of electronic music ever. You also failed to explain how metal takes more technical skill.
Don't misinterpret me like that. Electronic music is its own thing, and it's real in and of itself because it doesn't try to be anything else.

Metal takes much more technical skill than most genres because not only is it more complex but it's often of much higher energy and is generally more passionate than most other music, and more technical skill may be required to convey that passion.
 

Khada

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ive noticed this too...

reason 1: metal is awesome.
reason 2: it often fits the mood of an action/pvp/ game.

I mean... for some reason, playing Pink while melting faces just doesnt work lol.
 

Khada

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cball11 said:
I don't like metal. If you were to compare music to martial artists, heavy metal would be a warrior of the Maori tribes. It is harsh, brutal, angry, mad, and utterly uncivilized. It may very well be effective at accomplishing what it set out to do, but only people who delude themselves could consider it a joy to spectate at its performance. Take these opinions as simply that: opinions.
funny, i could probly say the same about your taste in music.
 

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Because people on forums are more than intelligent enough to understand, that the music is far superior to other types of music in most aspects, such as variety, soul, effort to make it... plenty of other stuff that the masses don't seem to understand with their simplistic rap/rave/dance genres.

And lets face it, there's nothing more motivating in a game than metal in an intense match.

actually this statement is not far from the truth.
To truly appreciate Metal and Rock, you need a certain level of intelligence to like the speed and diversity of it.
so all metal listening escapists can say "we are smarter than rap listening goons", if that was not obvious anyway.
 

Marbas

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You cannot replicate the sound of a guitar being skillfully played by using a computer. You can sample someone playing it or have a digital sounding MIDI voice make noise vaguely resembling a guitar.
Maybe not now, but eventually. Or, you can market it as Avant-garde metal and be a little unconventional with song structure.

As someone who has played guitar and piano for years and produces albums of many different genres for a living, I think I am somewhat qualified to opine that becoming proficient at metal requires a lot more musical talent and skill than learning to program loops in Reason and putting a distortion effect and some noise filters onto some drum samples, as the person in that link you posted is doing.
That is not what the person I linked is doing. For one thing, he builds his own...noisemakers. There are also no drums involved. Secondly, please provide actual evidence instead of just saying you are qualified to make that judgment call.


more complex but it's often of much higher energy and is generally more passionate than most other music.
Prove it.

What I'm saying to both of you boils down to this, prove it. All you're doing is grandstanding.

As for complexity, it isn't that important, Noise, as a genre completely unbound by musical convention, has the most complex songs of any genre in the world because there are no rules. As such, it can be as complex or minimal as it likes. That doesn't mean the more complex songs are better or have anything better about them. Complexity is not its' own reward.
 

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cball11 said:
I don't like metal. If you were to compare music to martial artists, heavy metal would be a warrior of the Maori tribes. It is harsh, brutal, angry, mad, and utterly uncivilized. It may very well be effective at accomplishing what it set out to do, but only people who delude themselves could consider it a joy to spectate at its performance. Take these opinions as simply that: opinions.
I don't think the Maori people are much less civilized than where most of us come from; actually, they may be more so. But that's besides the point. There is no delusion. People wonder why metal fans are so hardcore about their genre and so devoted...it's because of the passion and the realism in the music, even if the subject matter is about zombies tearing a victim apart. There's passion in the music, and even in the most harsh screams of hatred you can detect a love for what's taking place here. You don't find that, any of that, in mainstream music. Just turn on the radio and your ears will be assaulted by men going on about hookers, guns, money and cars, with the occasional generic emo boy ranting on about how bad his life is when he lives in a suburb or whatever. Give me a break.
 

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I prefer Electronic music, mostly because it could always be used in a movie or game, like the beat for a perfect moment like On Da Rocks when winning in poker:
 

Akai Shizuku

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Marbas said:
You cannot replicate the sound of a guitar being skillfully played by using a computer. You can sample someone playing it or have a digital sounding MIDI voice make noise vaguely resembling a guitar.
Maybe not now, but eventually. Or, you can market it as Avant-garde metal and be a little unconventional with song structure.

As someone who has played guitar and piano for years and produces albums of many different genres for a living, I think I am somewhat qualified to opine that becoming proficient at metal requires a lot more musical talent and skill than learning to program loops in Reason and putting a distortion effect and some noise filters onto some drum samples, as the person in that link you posted is doing.
That is not what the person I linked is doing. For one thing, he builds his own...noisemakers. Secondly, please provide actual evidence instead of just saying you are qualified to make that judgment call.


more complex but it's often of much higher energy and is generally more passionate than most other music.
Prove it.

What I'm saying to both of you boils down to this, prove it. All you're doing is grandstanding.
You haven't listened to much metal, have you?
 

Khada

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miracleofsound said:
DJShire said:
miracleofsound said:
Because metal fans tend to be the most passionate, intense musical fans.
elaborate on this.

I love the music I listen to. It brings me up when I'm down, it makes me feel amazing. I'm very passionate about the music I love.

So what makes you any different then me....who loves Trance?
Well, not a whole lot actually because I love trance too, especially the old school stuff.

I'll still pop on Energy 52- Cafe Del Mar to get people going at house parties. What a tune.

But back the the point...

I said they tend to be more passionate, which implies most of the time but not always.

I think metal speaks to people on an intense emotional level that most genres do not. If you listen to metal and hear 'noise', you may never get it and never feel that particular kind of buzz that only metal can give.

There is a comradery and unifying attitude amonst metal bands and fans. It's almost like a brotherhood through music.

Trance brings people together too, just in a different way. The subject matter mainly deals with dancing and partying. Metal's subject matter is a bit more varied, has more storytelling and a wider range of emotional and rythmical traits.

Metal is also such a hugely varied genre with so many sub genres and such a vast array of styles and approaches that there's something in it for almost everyone.

I say all this as a fan of all music, metal will always be my favorite.
i love u.
 

Marbas

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Akai Shizuku said:
Marbas said:
You cannot replicate the sound of a guitar being skillfully played by using a computer. You can sample someone playing it or have a digital sounding MIDI voice make noise vaguely resembling a guitar.
Maybe not now, but eventually. Or, you can market it as Avant-garde metal and be a little unconventional with song structure.

As someone who has played guitar and piano for years and produces albums of many different genres for a living, I think I am somewhat qualified to opine that becoming proficient at metal requires a lot more musical talent and skill than learning to program loops in Reason and putting a distortion effect and some noise filters onto some drum samples, as the person in that link you posted is doing.
That is not what the person I linked is doing. For one thing, he builds his own...noisemakers. Secondly, please provide actual evidence instead of just saying you are qualified to make that judgment call.


more complex but it's often of much higher energy and is generally more passionate than most other music.
Prove it.

What I'm saying to both of you boils down to this, prove it. All you're doing is grandstanding.
You haven't listened to much metal, have you?
You haven't listened to much that isn't Metal, have you?
 

Castratikron

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It's simple why Metal is popular online, i'm a bit of a metalhead myself so I have an inside perspective. Metal chicks are easy it's as simple as that.