Why is Pokemon frowned apon?

[Voltano]

Archemetis pretty much nailed my opinion on the series. I got into pokemon when Red came out and I must've played that copy so much that I'm kind of surprised I didn't wear out the battery on the cartridge to back up my save file, actually. I got pretty good with it as well, to the point that I was using the gameshark I had to create a unique challenge for me: I could choose what pokemon I want at the beginning along with any moves that it can learn, but it must be my ONLY pokemon used throughout the entire game. Meaning, the first battle with Gary to the showdown with MewTwo. Good times...

However, whether this series is labeled as a "cash cow" or not is anyone's opinion but...Re-making the good ones again? Even with the new ones, I don't see any innovation. The combat system alone is still incredibly slow, even on a Nintendo DS.

Some of the spin-offs are good, specifically the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series. Though I just say that because Chun-Soft did those games, which made the awesome "Shiren the Wanderer" game. Even then, "Shiren the Wanderer" beats the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series in terms of roguelike games, though that is because I like roguelike games more then the pokemon parts they tacked on.

I think the "monster raising" games were done better in other games, with my favorite being the "Dragon Quest Monster" series. I haven't played "Joker" (or whatever the current game on the Nintendo DS is), but I've played "Dragon Warrior Monsters I" and II years ago and found those more entertaining. *Shrugs* I just saw something else shinier as I grew up.

 

[justnotcricket]

I didn't think it was frowned upon, I just thought there were a lot of people who were ashamed of being a child once and playing it/enjoying it, or who are perhaps still quite young and desperate to prove they're all grown up, and therefore bash it at every opportunity. I played it when I was a kid, I enjoyed it a lot for being simple, colourful and addictive, and I still play it to this day, on the odd occasion, for a huge nostalgia-fest. I admit I haven't really kept up with all the newest Pokemon (250 was my limit!), but it's not a game that really deserves the vitriol it sometimes gets. =S

 

[randommaster]

Because of the anime.

The games on the other hand, are for manly men and womenly women.

And men that dress like women!

And women that dres like cacti!

and the semi-doujin mangas were great.

Which ones? If it was that old one you'd see in single issues, then it was Electric Tale of Pikachu.

There's also Pokemon Special, which is more famous but not as nostalgic. Badass though.

You mean the one wher Blue is all like "use Slash!" and the charmeleon cuts the Arbok IN HALF? Where Team Rocket is actually competent and one of the main characters was traumatized as aa child because someone tried to turn them into a brainwashed slave by abusing them? You mean that one?.

The games are amazingly complex and have more depth than pretty much any other RPG that you can find. If you have people to play with the battle system gets even deeper. Not to mention that the element chart goes far beyond the fire, water, wind, earth, heart, Captain Planet light and dark that you usually get. Pokemon was never about the story, it's just there to help the single player along. The game excells though, and is meant to be played for, the battles and the more you have to think about what you're doing the better the game gets. If you've ever seen a serious competetive tournament then you can see just what you can do with the game.

 

[WilliamWhite1]

Pokemon does not suck.

People hate on Pokemon for several reasons. Some hardcore FPS players consider it the lack of a game, because they're used to the intense, right-here-right-now fighting style and simulation of Call of Duty. Some hardcore RPG players would probably claim that the game lacks your ability to change stats of Pokemon and truly 'play' the game as well as you would like to, which some Pokemon players would agree and others would scoff and disagree. Personally, I see Pokemon as a game with tons of strategy and too many ways to get around strategy.

Every game has an overpowered legendary Pokemon that will get you through the game with no sweat. So here's what you do. You use your starter to beat every opponent to a pulp. Every. One. Catch one or two crappy Pokemon, teach them all of your cruddy HMs, and use them to get around. By the time you reach gyms, you have a heavy hitter that's unbreakable, and soaks up the XP like an effing Shamwow. You beat the game that way. Competitively, you have people on playlists that ban those legendaries, and that becomes a real game.

If you're talking about the entire franchise, then I still have to say Pokemon does not 'suck,' because it's still going strong. People still buy the cards, play the games, and for heaven's sake, some people still watch the shows. I have to say that I don't particularly like the new shows and everybody will probably agree that the old episodes were better, but hey, if they're still being watched and are influencing people to buy the cards and the games, then roll on I say.

All the same, I don't see Pokemon as something that sucks. It just needs to be your flavor.

Thank you.

 

[JWAN]

sorry but after the original('s) they did turn to shit

 

[Satin6T]

because it's sooooo freaking awesome, we must all hate it, like red steel

 

[Just_Karol]

I do like it, but I still can't help the fact it is becoming a joke.
I wish they could just stop making new pokemon and doing something interesting like combine all four regions! It's kinda obvious that they ran out ideas ever since luvdisc (I hate you so much)came along.
Further more, how many more pokemon can be based on mice???

EDIT: For all those who think Pokemon is a simple game for simple people:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Catch_rate

 

[Link Kadeshi]

What's an apon? Is that some kind of new molecule that can only be found in ape feces?

I believe the Apon is a pre-evolved form of Lapras that will be added to HG and SS. I don't know why they are doing that, but whatever.

Right on man! I have been with Pokemon since its Gameboy Color days in America, and the series still has a place in my heart. Yeah, the anime sucks ass, but it was also a huge part of my childhood because I couldn't tell at the time. I think that the little kids need to shut up about pokemon because most of them have not even played the original, you know BEFORE the Running Shoes (believe it or not, there was a time before them kids). But over all, Pokemon is a great series and is highly underrated in the recent years.

I tried going back and playing my old Red version, and the newest ones ruined me from the original. Blargh!

 

[Et3rnalLegend64]

People are too scared of being thought as childish. That, or they don't like the anime (and don't even consider the games or lump them together with the show). That's really covers like 95% of it.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

The show is truly vomit-worthy. I tried watching it and just had to turn it off. But the games are awesome. Seriously awesome. I think Pokemon is frowned upon because lots of people played Red & Blue just as kids, and because the show is for kids...but I don't think the games are.

 

[Link Kadeshi]

The show is truly vomit-worthy. I tried watching it and just had to turn it off. But the games are awesome. Seriously awesome. I think Pokemon is frowned upon because lots of people played Red & Blue just as kids, and because the show is for kids...but I don't think the games are.

I remember the first episode where he's setting off on his adventure, yet he knew nothing of Pokemon. It was quite funny.

 

[toapat]

Every time I see Pokemon brought up in a discussion, people always say that it sucks. I've been gaming for 10 years now and I have to disagree. Sure there's a lot of rabid 8 year old fanboys, but when you break it down it's actually a very fun game series.

it lasted up until the end of Pokemon Advance in the TV show. afterwards they stopped paying people who know japanese to translate it in favor of Google Translate.

352 (?) was a pretty sane limit. everything new is just going to be a poor rehash to try to necrotize the series

 

[Low Key]

The game is okay. I used to play yellow back in the day on my Gameboy Color. Now the show, that's a different matter. If I didn't have control of the remote to change the channel, I'd leave the room.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

The show is truly vomit-worthy. I tried watching it and just had to turn it off. But the games are awesome. Seriously awesome. I think Pokemon is frowned upon because lots of people played Red & Blue just as kids, and because the show is for kids...but I don't think the games are.

I remember the first episode where he's setting off on his adventure, yet he knew nothing of Pokemon. It was quite funny.

Sorry, I misspoke. The show used to be good. Now it's complete shyte.

 

[FallenJellyDoughnut]

Two Words:

"Anime Adaptation"

This.

Seriously it was the most stupid show I had ever seen.

I take it you've never seen Yu-Gi-Oh's anime.

AAAUUUUGGGHH!!! OH GOD! I REMEMBER EVERYTHING! You! You made me remember! Why?!

Damnit Mray I had to get a mind wipe from Pinkerton to erase that awful show from my head!

 

[Lazy Kitty]

Wait, Pokemon is frowned upon?

 

[zacaron]

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/090707.jpg

 

[El Poncho]

Try explaining that to my friends no wait my entire school, me having to keep my pokemon conversations to my cat, i'm going mad I tell ya MAD!

Hey, you've got us! Doesn't that account for anything?

Yeah I guess but it would be nice to play it like the good ol' days with my gameboy colour playing gold next to my friends.