Why so much hate for Halo in particular

[Uncompetative]

Halo games have deserved 10/10 scores because of the Multiplayer. Only the first game would deserve a 10/10 for its Campaign alone.

No game is perfect. 10/10 does not mean that a game is without faults. Indeed, Edge magazine once provided a key:

10 = Revolutionary.

So, the question shouldn't be "How can Halo be Perfect if it has The Library in it?", but "Is Halo really Combat Evolved?", I would say yes.

It's combat is superior to every FPS that has come after it, unfortunately including its sub-standard sequels which are wholly redeemed by their innovation and polish in the realm of vehicular Multiplayer. However, these games are only as good as the teams that play them and if you have experienced only tea-bagging, squealing, North American kids who use team-chat for singing rather than strategy, then I can't convince you of its untapped potential.

 

[Quickening666]

He's not saying that. He's just saying that there's a lot of people who don't come up with decent reasons, not that it's impossible. That's the main source of annoyance as I find it; that a large number of people start hating Halo without a decent argument, thus proving themselves worse than any fanboy and simultaneously drowning out any worthwhile argument.

But if you honestly believe he's a fanboy because he thinks there's (suprise, suprise) idiots on youTube, then I can't see where you're coming from.

His interpretation of them all is that they dislike it for any other reason that they're genuine. "They don't hate it because it's bad". How does he know?
I hate it because of things like this but the games themselves, well if you've ever played a FPS on a PC before then Halo is nothing special and does nothing new. Is that a good enough reason? Or do I only dislike it because I'm a PC fanboy? Well I'm not because I think the Half-Life games are dull and over-rated to.

Well, presumably he knows because he's watched at least a few of them (I hope). There's no need to call him a fanboy just because he's calling out some prepostorous twats on youTube. I mean, if you don't like it, that's fine. You've given a pretty good reason, and I can understand that. The problem starts when people take an opinion like that and start applying it to everyone.

Like what several people have done in this topic by suggesting that anyone who doesn't like Halo is only doing it to be cool. There are no more idiots on YouTube than there are on this forum or anywhere else online it's just that on YouTube they don't have to restrain themselves.

 

[Mewick_Alex]

I think the reason most peole hate Halo is because Yahtzee hates it.

Because Yahtzee is usually true.

Nothing personal my friend, but i find it a little hard to take your (rather overzealous) opinions seriously when you're avatar shows master cheif being decapitated. Just seems like you're taking things slightly too seriously and therefore probably makes most people simply dismiss your opinions outright.

Anyway..... I'm fairly fond of the halo games (the first one anyway). Its possible i only say this because i have fond memories if playing the first one in co-op, at a time when games co-op games were so hugely hard to come by, especially FPS's, and it just seemed very refreshing.

Also:

Because we're all bitter about Duke Nukem Forever and Timesplitters 4.

I thought TS4 was back on track? Its been a while since I heard much about it so I could be wrong.

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

Well, presumably he knows because he's watched at least a few of them (I hope). There's no need to call him a fanboy just because he's calling out some prepostorous twats on youTube. I mean, if you don't like it, that's fine. You've given a pretty good reason, and I can understand that. The problem starts when people take an opinion like that and start applying it to everyone.

Like what several people have done in this topic by suggesting that anyone who doesn't like Halo is only doing it to be cool. There are no more idiots on YouTube than there are on this forum or anywhere else online it's just that on YouTube they don't have to restrain themselves.

Well, yes and no. The question was: 'Why so much hate for Halo?'. The reason there's quite so much hate is because there's a lot of people who dislike it for poor reasons. If there were only people with good reasons, like yours, then it would be no more noticeable than with any other game. Especially since people who just have a normal opinion don't post youTube videos or entire blogs declaring how awful it is. They look at it, shrug and play something they do like.

Quickening: 3
Geo Da Sponge: 0
Samanoskae: 0

Good God, can you maintain your dignity for one post? All you've done is whine and ***** and moan while some people actually try to have a discussion. I've tried to be reasonable but your bullshit is starting to wear thin.

And it's a discussion, not a competition.

 

[scotth266]

ANOTHER... HALO THREAD... RAGE... RISING...

Ok, I've had it. Whilst the OP seems to have good intent whilst making this thread, couldn't we have necroed one of the 100,000 Halo threads that have been made already? Granted, I'm very anti-necro, but I've had enough of the same discussion being brought up, even if it's from a (mildly) different angle.

People like certain games. There are those who think that World of Warcraft is the shit, and there are those who think it's just plain shit. There are those who love Mirror's Edge, and there are those who hate it. The same goes for every single game EVER MADE IN THE HISTORY OF MAN: there will be those who loves it, and those who don't, for various reasons.

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

ANOTHER... HALO THREAD... RAGE... RISING...

Ok, I've had it. Whilst the OP seems to have good intent whilst making this thread, couldn't we have necroed one of the 100,000 Halo threads that have been made already? Granted, I'm very anti-necro, but I've had enough of the same discussion being brought up, even if it's from a (mildly) different angle.

People like certain games. There are those who think that World of Warcraft is the shit, and there are those who think it's just plain shit. There are those who love Mirror's Edge, and there are those who hate it. The same goes for every single game EVER MADE IN THE HISTORY OF MAN: there will be those who loves it, and those who don't, for various reasons.

I know someone who likes Mirror's Edge. Odd fellow. Goes crazy when he's fed strawberries, before crashing and having a strawberry-hangover. I wish I was making this up.

But yeah, I'd like to think that this is what I've been saying, that if people don't like a game that's fine by me. Just so long as they don't tell others what to think and they can string together a decent argument to say why they don't like it.

 

[Not Good]

I only bashed it for a bit. Otherwise the multiplayer is a great way to kill time rather than guitar playing.

 

[Osalot_TH]

I would just like to add the fact that Halo has a lot of background lore to the game that makes it a little more than just the games. It becomes a world, just like Lord of the Rings. I personally have read all but 2 of the books, so far, and I love the stories because they expand the game. The game is fun to play and the books are fun to imagine what you could play. Even one of the novels is the first game so to play it then read the story that you could say is the actual events, is pretty cool to compare.

 

[Shamanic Enzan]

I would just like to add the fact that Halo has a lot of background lore to the game that makes it a little more than just the games. It becomes a world, just like Lord of the Rings. I personally have read all but 2 of the books, so far, and I love the stories because they expand the game. The game is fun to play and the books are fun to imagine what you could play. Even one of the novels is the first game so to play it then read the story that you could say is the actual events, is pretty cool to compare.

After a while its a bit of a cash cow. I've read the First three and Ghosts of Onyx and cannot be assed to read the others. Contact Harvest and Cole Protocol just didn't suck me in.

 

[Pickel Surprise]

Because it's only average and many of the fans are tards who revere it as though it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I used to be a fan of the Halo series, especially the first game, but I've realized that there's not really anything that great about it.

That being said, the haters are extremely annoying as well. I can very much appreciate people who level reasonable criticisms of the game. However, it's impossibly bothersome people who rant about all of its flaws not so the developers can try to better their games in the future, but rather so the fans will feel insulted.

Actually, I personally find the rabid haters to be worse than the fantards.

 

[Osalot_TH]

I would just like to add the fact that Halo has a lot of background lore to the game that makes it a little more than just the games. It becomes a world, just like Lord of the Rings. I personally have read all but 2 of the books, so far, and I love the stories because they expand the game. The game is fun to play and the books are fun to imagine what you could play. Even one of the novels is the first game so to play it then read the story that you could say is the actual events, is pretty cool to compare.

After a while its a bit of a cash cow. I've read the First three and Ghosts of Onyx and cannot be assed to read the others. Contact Harvest and Cole Protocol just didn't suck me in.

I will say I feel the same way. I have Contact harvest on my shelf but for some reason haven't been inspired to read it yet. But the Cole Protocol does sound better.

 

[TheBarefootBandit]

People get annoyed that a game they didn't like is so popular. Some people can't stand to see other people who have different opinions to theirs, so they have to fight about it; the more popular the game, the more people disagree with them, so the more enraged they get whenever it's mentioned.

I say this in every anti-(GAME) thread, but I'll keep saying it because so few people seem to have learned the lesson: if other people like a game that you don't like, that doesn't mean they're stupid or ignorant or part of a cult. It means the game was better suited to their tastes than it was to yours. Your opinions are not facts. Even if you think they're indisputable, they're not.

4. The hypocritical and annoying Valve fanboys

Careful. You're crossing a line there. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

I think he means:
{Valve fanboys}[sub] annoying[sub] hypocites[/sub][/sub]

not:
Valve fanboys = hypocritical + annoying

I think most fanboys and fangirls (yes you know who you are) fall under the annoying category.

 

[Daveman]

3) It actually deserves criticism. The Halo series in general is rather over rated, and although certain facets of the series are certainly deserving of praise (Forge, support for Machinima, Multiplayer), more are deserving of an absolute tearing apart.

It deserves criticism becuase it doesn't deserve tens that "professional" reviewers give it. Now all the Halo fanboys are going to say to me; "But Halo one deserves score of 10s" NO! Even that game was mediocre at best.

TimeSplitters series >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Halo series

Because its a hopelessly average game thats popular and critically acclaimed for reason uknown. Its too overrated and the fact that TimeSplitters isn't as or more popular than Halo is retarded.

How come Halo gets perfect tens from professional reviewers and TimeSplitters just get eights is beyond me. Its probably because they're being bribed by Microsoft's marketing.

Exactly this. Halo (1, obviously) was good but what matters most in a console shooter is local multiplayer which was utterly boring in Halo. Timesplitters: Future Perfect was infinitely better at this. There were more game modes, more variety in maps, more weapons (and better ones at that) and more characters.

The story was also better in Timesplitters.

And Timesplitters was funny.

And the controls were better.

And there were more types of enemies.

And fun boss battles.

I could go on but I think I've made my point.

 

[kaziard]

i dislike the hype, the game is fine, a bit lacking in some respects such as storyline and originality but it does the job.