Woman of nine childen says she cant be expected to keep them all safe after one passes away.

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Doom-Slayer

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So lets all have a brief facepalm moment.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5989748/Mother-of-drowned-toddlers-grief

TL;DR. 22 month old toddler is in the swimming pool unnattended for about 3 minutes and drowns, mother is charged of manslaughter but not convicted(not really important bit). And heres the crux of the whole thing

"I wish I could tell parents the one thing that would prevent this happening, but I can't. You can't watch children 24/7 and the law apparently expects you to.

"I have to make a lot more effort to let them do things now. But I have nine children, it is physically impossible for me to have nine children and make sure they are all safe all the time. I just have to trust them."

Really? Really....this seriously shows up so much in the media lately, and makes me have no support for anybody in a bad situation with more than 1 kid. If you're going to have more than one child, and you arent able to keep track of them all and keep them safe, why are you having them...really...

For discussion value, times that make you loose faith in humanity.
 

LostCrusader

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Even if she thinks that she can't keep track of her nine children and "just has to trust them", that should never excuse leaving a toddler (who I am assuming is one of her younger children) alone in a dangerous situation like swimming in a pool.
 

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I don't have any stories like that because one person doesn't equal the entire of humanity to me.

Anyway, seeing as I don't have any stories like that, lets focus on the good things.
Like huskies.



Aren't they just adorable?
 

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Sassafrass said:
I don't have any stories like that because one person doesn't equal the entire of humanity to me.

Anyway, seeing as I don't have any stories like that, lets focus on the good things.
Like huskies.



Aren't they just adorable?
I hope no one gives her those puppies.
 

Marik2

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Sassafrass said:
I don't have any stories like that because one person doesn't equal the entire of humanity to me.

Anyway, seeing as I don't have any stories like that, lets focus on the good things.
Like huskies.



Aren't they just adorable?
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW

my husky puppies look just like them :D
 

lacktheknack

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Problem... toddlers in pools are your HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR SAFETY.

She treated it otherwise, so her defense falls flat.
 

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Phyrophobia said:
I do believe that those Huskies just restored my faith in humanity.

Well done sir.
So the actions of one woman took away your "faith in humanity" whatever that nebulous term is even meant to mean, and then some dogs brought it back?

Riiiiight.
 

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Phyrophobia said:
I do believe that those Huskies just restored my faith in humanity.

Well done sir.
You're welcome, have another husky pic.
Pic link. [http://www.tadoz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/siberian-husky-puppies1.jpg]

Marik2 said:
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW

my husky puppies look just like them :D
Wait, wait...puppies?

How many do you have and plan to keep? As my girlfriend has one and while her husky is a brilliant dog, it's also a total asshole. XD
 

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She sounds like she was being negligible. Why was the kids alone in a swimming pool? To a certain extent she's right, even parents with one or two children have had terrible accidents happen to their children when they only looked away for a second, which isn't negligence, it's bad luck. Personally I would never have that many children in North America, but my grandmother did have 12 children, in Guyana, South America, and all made it to adulthood, all finished highschool, most got some form of secondary education including 2 Ph.D's. But she had help. Lots and lots of help.
 

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you have them because you love kids, and do want to take care of them. And when you have a lot of kids you do do your best to take care of them, and set up rules and parameters (usally things like keep the pool locked, or not allow kids to enter the pool without an accomplice) to keep them safe. Like a lot of rules, sometimes they fail because someone didnt do their part. Comming from a town with a lot of big families (mine included) these things are usually not the mother's fault. my guess is this happened because she asked one of the older kids to watch their sister, and that older sibling went and played xbox or legos or something. That older sibling, whose old enough to babysit, is not old enough to be tried so the fall comes on the parent.


Times that make me lose faith in humanity: when a story about a grief-stricken family down on their luck is made the butt of ridicule and self-aggrandizement by a bunch of arrogant, entitled, middle-class, 20-somethings
 

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Doom-Slayer said:
times that make you loose faith in humanity.
Whenever I see that, it makes me want to kick a puppy.

Although I feel like being a bit of a muppet myself because I can.

It's *lose* not *loose*.

lose/lo͞oz/
Verb:
Be deprived of or cease to have or retain (something): "I've lost my appetite".
Cause (someone) to fail to gain or retain (something): "you lost me my appointment at the university".

loose/lo͞os/
Adjective:
Not firmly or tightly fixed in place; detached or able to be detached: "a loose tooth".
Verb:
Set free; release: "the hounds have been loosed".
Synonyms:
adjective. lax - slack - free
verb. release - untie - unfasten - unbind - undo - disengage

I had to do it.

It's a little hate of mine after all the MMO PvP battlefronts i've been in and seen people typing *just loose* when we went a few points/kills behind. I just wanted to reach through my monitor and choke them. Probably a bit too much rage over a tiny matter but I care not, I like raging over minor issues....... I have nothing big to rage about allow me my pointless anger.
 

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Sassafrass said:
I don't have any stories like that because one person doesn't equal the entire of humanity to me.

Anyway, seeing as I don't have any stories like that, lets focus on the good things.
Like huskies.



Aren't they just adorable?
Yeah they're cute now, but wait until they start shedding. Keep Huskies outside, they make good farm dogs and they won't shed their winter coats over your carpet.
 

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Ok, I'll bite.

I am an expecting father.

Obviously, and please remember this, the idea that through some preventable fault of my own, my child should be injured or die is, abhorrent.

However.

WTF guys, seriously? 3 minutes, I could see leaving my (future)kid in a situation with 8 other siblings (hopefully some more than a 2 years old) and expecting they could handle themselves. This aint news, it's tragic. But to imply that this woman is some sort of example of the failings of humanity seems, insensitive to the horror she has to live with.

Fuck, it's not like there is a dearth of people who are examples of humanity's failings!
 

LHZA

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hulksmashley said:
LHZA said:
She sounds like she was being negligible.
It's negligent. Negligible means that something is isn't important, and is an adjective. For example "That fact is negligible." Negligent means that you aren't paying attention to something, and is almost always used with children. "She was a negligent mother and ignored her children.

Anyway. This woman is crazy for having that many kids, but still not up to the Duggers with 20 kids. If anybody makes me loose faith in humanity it's them.
You remind me of my friend. Okay, the woman was negligent, you're right. What's so bad about the Duggars? They seem nice enough. I completely disagree with them on almost everything, but they seem to have found a way to make their situation work. I'm iffy about having one child, but I know personally you can safely raise a massive amount of children while ensuring they make it into adulthood relatively happy and successful adults. I'm just not so sure you can do so in North America, or any part of the western world, though the Duggars may be proof otherwise.