Woman robs man on side of road, Two "samaritans" help her because she's a woman

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I'd probably have done the same thing. You see a woman struggling to get away from a man who is physically trying to restrain her. What else would you think is happening? This is just an example of when good intentions go wrong.
 

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peruvianskys said:
Shadie777 said:
I am afraid to walk alone in the middle of the night, MOSTLY EVERYONE IS. Do you know why? Its because a hell of a lot of crime is committed at night, not just rape. Gun crime, knife crime, robbery,etc.Its fucking human instinct to be nervous at night when alone, it isn't exclusive to women.
Are you afraid of being raped?
1. You misquoted me. The first quote was meant to be SidheKnight

2.I may not be afraid of rape but there is a fuckload of shit I'm afraid of while being outside at night. Fuck, even if rape would suddenly not exist, everyone would still be afraid of being outside at night. Judging by your response you seem to be one of those people that treat rape as the only crime thats valid, I.e the only crime that can cause a large amount of mental and physical pain. If so, I don't think I even want to continue this conversation. I'm getting too angry and I'm afraid I might start using insults.

3. You seem to have ignored this.

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Also, please do not underestimate anyone's pain, do not treat anyone's hardship like its nothing compared to others.There are fucking valid issues that affect both men and women and they should be treated seriously.
Please memorise that every time you feel like comparing pain/suffering to others based on gender,race,etc.
 

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I'd probably have done the same thing. You see a woman struggling to get away from a man who is physically trying to restrain her. What else would you think is happening? This is just an example of when good intentions go wrong.
Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans.

Common sense!?

Don't be too rash to post dude, you're being an unthinking sexist white knight kind of guy, yeeeeeeeah.
 

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peruvianskys said:
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That video is incredibly depressing, and goes to show that the bias against men has nothing to do with social, economic or political systems it is just inherent. We are valued less, not because of what we do but simply because of what we are.
Really, YOU are valued less just because of who you are?

Get back to me when one out of every four men are raped. Get back to me when men make 77 cents for every dollar women make. Get back to me when the sexual humiliation and abuse of men is one of America's top industries. Get back to me when you're afraid to walk home at night. Get back to me when you can't turn on a television, look at a magazine, or talk to the majority of other human beings for twenty minutes without receiving the obvious message that you are nothing but a receptacle for cum that exists for men's pleasure.

Until then, shut the fuck up k?
Get back to us when you are not allowed to even talk about problems affecting your demographic.
You know about women's problems, you can talk about them, you can take legal actions for women. Most men can do nothing about their gander specific problems except talk about them on the internet, they would be too embarrassed to speak up openly. If women speak up openly about their problems, people on top would listen some horrible would definitely make fun of them but a lot more good people would listen(look at the recent Women vs Tropes thing, many were against her but a lot more defended her, especially the editors and anyone that actually had power). But men would be called butthurt misogynists, be laughed and made to shut up and be ignored anywhere except on the internet.
 

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DOES ANYONE IN THIS THREAD HAVE ANY SYMPATHY FOR THE POOR GUY THAT NOT ONLY GOT ROBBED BUT ALSO PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED BY TWO PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT HE WAS THE ROBBER INSTEAD OF THE ROBBED?

Sorry for the caps, but it looks like everybody is ignoring the most important part of the story.

Oh, but he's a man, so he probably had it coming anyway... (Because all men are secretly horrible people who are enslaved to the testosterone whispering in their brains "kill kill kill, and rape")
 

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DOES ANYONE IN THIS THREAD HAVE ANY SYMPATHY FOR THE POOR GUY THAT NOT ONLY GOT ROBBED BUT ALSO PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED BY TWO PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT HE WAS THE ROBBER INSTEAD OF THE ROBBED?

Sorry for the caps, but it looks like everybody is ignoring the most important part of the story.

Oh, but he's a man, so he probably had it coming anyway... (Because all men are secretly horrible people who are enslaved to the testosterone whispering in their brains "kill kill kill, and rape")
I do.

But I think Fappy said it best, it's a case of good intentions gone wrong.
 

peruvianskys

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SidheKnight said:
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He said 25%. He WAS exaggerating, and I actually provided data.
"In the 1990?s it was found that 20% of college women in a controlled randomized study
reported that at some point in their lives they had ?been forced to submit to sexual
intercourse against their will.? (Douglas, K.A., et. al. ?Results from the 1995 National
College Health Risk Behavior Survey.? Journal of American College Health, 46 (1`997): 55-
66.)"

"An American woman has a 25 to 26 percent chance of being raped in her lifetime (1 in 4)." (Greenberg, Bruess and Haffner, 573; Horowitz, 413; Lips, 233).

?The National Crime Victimization Survey found that in 1996 more than two-thirds of
rape/sexual assaults committed in the nation remained unreported (Ringel 1997, 3).?

U.S. Department of Justice National Crime Victimization Survey 2006-2010 puts the number at 24%.

Some more facts:


The FBI?s definition of ?forcible rape? in their Uniform Crime Report (UCR): ?The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will.?

What that definition leaves out: anal, oral and statutory rape; incest; rape with an object, finger or fist; rape of men

Number of men raped in any year, according to the UCR: 0

Estimated number of men actually raped each year, according to the Dept. of Justice: 93,000

Number of women raped in 2007 under the UCR definition: 91,874

Number of sexual assaults in 2007?which includes rapes the FBI leaves out?according to the National Crime Victimization Survey: 248,300

Dept. of Justice estimate of how many women are actually raped each year: 300,000

Number of arrests for rape in 2007 (UCR): 23,307
Percentage of rapes that result in incarceration: 0.35 percent

Number of murders/manslaughters in 2007 (UCR): 17,157

Number of arrests for murder/manslaughter in 2007 (UCR): 13,480

Percentage of murders that result in incarceration: 20 percent or more

Average number of rapes to every murder committed annually: 5 to 1

Two of the top five cities in the U.S. with the most ?unfounded? (i.e., false or baseless reports, according to police) rapes: New Orleans and Baltimore

Percentage of rape reports deemed ?unfounded? by New Orleans police in 2008: 60 percent

Percentage of rape reports deemed ?unfounded? by Baltimore police in 2009: 32 percent

Percentage of actual estimated false rape reports in any given year according to research studies: 2-8 percent

Percentage of rape reports deemed ?unfounded? by the FBI in 2006: 5 percent

How Baltimore police once explained their ?unfounded? rape rate: ?One of the things we know is that victims do lie.?

Percentage of rape reports deemed ?unfounded? (i.e. falsely reported) by Philadelphia police in 1983: 52 percent

The year Philadelphia was forced to clean up its rape reporting practices: 1999

Percentage of rape reports deemed unfounded in Philadelphia in 2007: 10 percent

What a Philadelphia police officer once called his city?s sex crimes unit: ?The lying bitches unit.?
 

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Hagi said:
Not to mention that there's little evidence supporting the claim that men were exclusively hunters and women exclusively home makers. And unless you have a time-machine there's no such evidence to be had.
Little evidence? You're not going to rewrite my biology textbooks, are you? :p
I don't know what biology you had...

But mine featured body parts, cells, DNA and organisms.

It did not feature human society 200.000 years ago, because that has absolutely nothing to do with biology and everything to do with history.

So yeah, if your biology textbooks feature human stone-age society then I'd say someone should rewrite them. Doubt I'd be the best person for it though.
 

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Let's look at this with logic:
-If you see a strong person fighting a weak person, you assume the strong person started the fight
-In a fight, stopping the person who started it is the best way to stop it.
-Men are USUALLY physically stronger than women.
-If you see a man fighting a woman, the man is most likely the stronger person, and thus is most probably the person you want to stop.

It's not that hard. Besides people are saying you find out what's going on? HOW? Do you just walk up to two fighting people and say "My, my good lady and gentleman, may I inquire upon the current situation, and who is robbing who?" or do you break the fight up, and then ask?
 

Lyri

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SidheKnight said:
DOES ANYONE IN THIS THREAD HAVE ANY SYMPATHY FOR THE POOR GUY THAT NOT ONLY GOT ROBBED BUT ALSO PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED BY TWO PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT HE WAS THE ROBBER INSTEAD OF THE ROBBED?

Sorry for the caps, but it looks like everybody is ignoring the most important part of the story.

Oh, but he's a man, so he probably had it coming anyway... (Because all men are secretly horrible people who are enslaved to the testosterone whispering in their brains "kill kill kill, and rape")
Of course it sucks to be him, he got accused of trying to do a lady some physical harm and wall pulled off her by two passing chaps.

I don't think anybody is ignoring what happened too him, it's just a given that his situation sucks.

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Fappy was my first and true love. I'm so sorry!
But...but...I'll never love again!
 

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Fucking typical. This sort of bullshit comes out of the absurd perversion of chivalry and the idiotic ideas about gender foisted on Western culture by romanticism. The sooner that shit dies, the better.

As a side note, I strongly suspect that these self-righteous fools have been watching too much television. "Strange man attacks woman on street" makes for popular headlines and popular hooks for cheap dramas, but women are the minority by a fairly large margin when it comes to the real life victims of street crime (crimes by and against women more often involve people with whom they have strong social ties, although women getting violent against strangers after a night of drinking has been very much on the increase lately).
 

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Lyri said:
Fappy said:
I'd probably have done the same thing. You see a woman struggling to get away from a man who is physically trying to restrain her. What else would you think is happening? This is just an example of when good intentions go wrong.
Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans.

Common sense!?

Don't be too rash to post dude, you're being an unthinking sexist white knight kind of guy, yeeeeeeeah.
Uh, what? If I saw a man restraining a woman who is clearly trying to get away (I assume they were probably yelling quite loudly) my first guess would be that he is attacking her. Blame it on society, blame it on our culture, I don't really care. The fact of the matter is that when something like what they thought was happening happens, and you don't do anything about it, people can get hurt or worse. Were they acting before thinking? Possibly. I wasn't there, so I can't judge the situation myself.

Relevant story: My uncle heard a woman scream in a parking lot a few years ago. He ran to the noise to see what was happening and saw a man hitting a woman over the head. He attacked the man and when he realized he had a gun (he had pistol whipped her) my uncle disarmed him and tied him up with his belt. If my uncle hadn't acted out of instinct the woman could have died.

It's hard to judge the situation without being there, but if it looked like the woman was being attacked by the man I don't know many people that would stand there and consider, "Well maybe she was mugging him" before intervening.