Woman robs man on side of road, Two "samaritans" help her because she's a woman

[Lyri]

You had me at kitchen.

*jumps into your arms*

Ladies and Gentlemen, ding dong the witch is dead. I just converted me a man hating woman into a man lovin' lady.

Peace out losers!

 

[Hagi]

How about you lose the fucking victim complex, k?

You'll have to explain this one to me as I'm quite confused as to how you got that out of my post?

Misquote maybe?

 

[razer17]

And how do you know that? Can you read minds from a distance through time?

Pretty simple really. Because as I've said multiple times now, they immediately restrained the man. No questions, no nothing, just immediately jumped him.

If they thought there was even the slightest possibility she was a problem, they would've done something, or at least tried to keep her at the scene. But they didn't. They had the right person, and they knew it.

I'm sorry, you see a struggle and, from how it's described in the article (and that's all we have to go by) the man initiated the physical struggle. Now, this would, if you happened to walk along at that exact moment, look like the man was robbing the woman.

People in that situation wouldn' stop and start asking questions,you just wouldn't. You'd grab the drunk dude and let the girl escape. If you saw the same thing but the woman initiated, you wouldn't ask questions, you'd grab her. If it was two men, you would grab the one that looked like they initiated it.

In fact, men are ten times more likely to commit murder.

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/gender.cfm

They're almost far more likely to commit suicide, for example.

It's not like being a man and being a woman put you in exactly the same life situations. Or even, sadly, under the same kind of expectations/social pressures.

Also comprising up to 80% or more of the homeless in some places. It's not like that isn't going to skew things and increase the chance of violent behaviour just to survive, in fairness.

Sort of true. Men are more likely to suceed with a suicide attempt, but woman are much more likely to attempt it. Even if you discount the "attention seeking" ones who don't actually want to kill themselves, women are still more likely to try killing themselves.

 

[Shadie777]

Really, YOU are valued less just because of who you are?

Get back to me when one out of every four men are raped. Get back to me when men make 77 cents for every dollar women make. Get back to me when the sexual humiliation and abuse of men is one of America's top industries. Get back to me when you're afraid to walk home at night. Get back to me when you can't turn on a television, look at a magazine, or talk to the majority of other human beings for twenty minutes without receiving the obvious message that you are nothing but a receptacle for cum that exists for men's pleasure.

Until then, shut the fuck up k?

You lost me at third point, I couldn't even get past it without losing my shit.

I am afraid to walk alone in the middle of the night, MOSTLY EVERYONE IS. Do you know why? Its because a hell of a lot of crime is committed at night, not just rape. Gun crime, knife crime, robbery,etc.Its fucking human instinct to be nervous at night when alone, it isn't exclusive to women.

Also, please do not underestimate anyone's pain, do not treat anyone's hardship like its nothing compared to others.There are fucking valid issues that affect both men and women and they should be treated seriously.

 

[anthony87]

How about you lose the fucking victim complex, k?

You'll have to explain this one to me as I'm quite confused as to how you got that out of my post?

Misquote maybe?

Oh nononnononono! That last line was directed at the person who I quoted above you in my post. I should probably go back and edit it to make it clearer....

 

[SidheKnight]

Is there much of a difference between those ethnicities (not a word lol)? The only racial statistic I can remember is that white men are more likely to commit rape than African American men. I'm also pretty sure Hispanics are quite low on the list of "people that commit crime."

There are.

Hispanics are, relative to their number, three times as likely to be involved in crimes (as the offender).

Black people are, relative to their number, twice as likely to be involved in crimes (as the offender).

Men and women are equally likely to be involved in crimes (as the offender). Admittedly, men's crimes are worse as they end up in prison nine times as much.

But if you feel the difference between men and women is significant enough to treat both groups differently I suggest you start running as soon as you see a Hispanic or black person.

Amen brother.

@Boudica: It just seems that it's worthless to argue with you.

Even when presented with facts, you go "uhh that's seems far-fetched" yey have no doubt to say that "yeah women have it sooo much worse than men"

It's like you ignore everything that doesn't strengthen your argument.

@peruvianskys: You're crazy.

(1)Really, YOU are valued less just because of who you are?

(2)Get back to me when one out of every four men are raped. (3)Get back to me when men make 77 cents for every dollar women make.(4) Get back to me when the sexual humiliation and abuse of men is one of America's top industries. (5)Get back to me when you're afraid to walk home at night.(6)Get back to me when you can't turn on a television, look at a magazine, or talk to the majority of other human beings for twenty minutes without receiving the obvious message that you are nothing but a receptacle for cum that exists for men's pleasure.

Until then, shut the fuck up k?

1) There's an underlying way of thinking in our culture that says that most times "Men are valued for what they do, Women have value for what they are" This obviously has both positive and negative connotations for both, but it still a double standard.

2) 25% of women get raped? I smell exaggeration...

3) Well, if you choose to study liberal arts instead of engineering...

4) If you're talking about porn, it's not humiliation for any gender. And many women enjoy it.

5) I am. What with all the robberies and all that... But if you talk only about rape, then I grant you this one.

6) You might have a point here. Might. I think women portrayal in many media reduces them to stereotypes. But I stil think you're magnifying it a little bit here.

 

[LemmingNinja]

I like how pretty much any topic vaguely related to sexism turns into a massive s**t-storm of pointless arguing that is horribly off-topic.

I think that the actual issue was missed at the start because the problem in this situation isn't that they jumped to help a woman they were thinking was being assaulted, but actually helped her rob a person, it's that they let her leave. I mean, what's wrong with helping people who are seeming being robbed? The two men should have just kept them both at the scene at let the police sort it out. That's all. They were just being dumb. Not sexist.

 

[peruvianskys]

How about you lose the fucking victim complex, k?

You're right that we shouldn't have a "Who has it worse?" debate. Do you know why? Because there is an obvious "winner" already, and for the last 10,000 years that has been women. If you can't see that, you're choking on male privilege to such an incredibly bizarre degree that you might be beyond help. I'm not ashamed of being a man in any way but I'm smart enough to realize that I don't actively have to fear violence, harassment, abuse, degradation, and disempowerment every single goddamn day of my life. I'm smart enough to realize that my sexual humiliation and exploitation is not one of the largest industries in America. I'm smart enough to realize that I will get paid, on average, far more than a woman in any job I have. I'm smart enough to realize that in almost every single social, economic, political, and sexual situation, I will have the power.

And if you can't see that for yourself, then as I said before, shut the fuck up.

 

[peruvianskys]

2) 25% of women get raped? I smell exaggeration...

According to the United States Government, and consistently varified by non-governmental agencies, roughly 1 in 3 to 1 in 5 women will be sexually assaulted in their lives. Look it up bro.

3) Well, if you choose to study liberal arts instead of engineering...

This alone reveals the obvious sexism that I'm talking about here. Women DO enter science and technology jobs and when they DO, they get paid less. It's across the board, from professors to CEOs.

4) If you're talking about porn, it's not humiliation for any gender. And many women enjoy it.

I'm talking about most porn, most advertising, most television shows, most news channels, most video games, most literature, most everything.

I am afraid to walk alone in the middle of the night, MOSTLY EVERYONE IS. Do you know why? Its because a hell of a lot of crime is committed at night, not just rape. Gun crime, knife crime, robbery,etc.Its fucking human instinct to be nervous at night when alone, it isn't exclusive to women.

Are you afraid of being raped?

 

[razer17]

Sort of true. Men are more likely to suceed with a suicide attempt, but woman are much more likely to attempt it. Even if you discount the "attention seeking" ones who don't actually want to kill themselves, women are still more likely to try killing themselves.

Isn't it because men are more likely to own a gun and to to therefore use it in a suicide attempt, while women are more likely to attempt overdoses and hangings--much less likely to kill you than a gunshot to the brain lol.

I think there is a certain level of women being less able to kill themselves. It's difficult mentally and physically to kill yourself, and the article I read suggested that men are more likely to be able to go through with it fully. Then of course pills are harder to kill yourself with anyway. I don't really fully remember all the details, this article I read was about 4 years ago.

 

[Hagi]

Doesn't it come down to racial economics? Minorities are more likely to be persecuted and to suffer poverty, leading to more crime. Whereas men are more violent than women because of evolution forging men into hunters and women into home makers? Aside from the fact that our brains are slightly different, testosterone is the key chemical in aggression and violence and men happen to have a ton more of it than women.

Evolution--the cause of all the world's problems.

I agree on the racial economics. I would have also agreed on gender economics.

Evolutionary psychology however is pseudo-scientific nonsense at best which seems to have it's roots firmly established in a Tarzan & Jane novel.

You're basically claiming here that crime is caused by testosterone...

I'd like to think that humanity is a bit more complicated than that.

Not to mention that there's little evidence supporting the claim that men were exclusively hunters and women exclusively home makers. And unless you have a time-machine there's no such evidence to be had.

 

[SidheKnight]

@Boudica: It just seems that it's worthless to argue with you. Even when presented with facts, you go "uhh that's seems far-fetched."

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2) 25% of women get raped? I smell exaggeration...

See what you did there? I do :3

Yeah, well. It IS true...

Rape prevalence among women in the U.S. (the percentage of women who experienced rape at least once in their lifetime so far) is in the range of 15%?20%

He said 25%. He WAS exaggerating, and I actually provided data.

You just said "duh it can't be that bad". But I forgive you, I did the same thing with female circumcision and I was wrong.

My point about the whole deal stands:

Guys shouldn't defend themselves from theft perpetrated by women because it might look to third parties like he is assaulting them.

But given all the crap women have to deal with rape and domestic violence and physical agression, I guess this is expected.