Women aren't Babies

[Zen Toombs]

Why is ****** actually offensive to anyone, anyway? I know what it means and being pansexual I cop it more than your average person probably, but why is it offensive to be called homosexual? Doesn't it make you, the person taking offense, the one with the problem, because you take issue with being called gay, as if it's a bad thing? I get that the person saying it is trying to offend you and it's considered a slur, but... why?

"******!"

-"Being gay is a bad thing?"

"Of course it is, ******!"

-"Not really, no."

/end of

Some people respond to it like that, but the issue isn't precisely with what the word directly means (male homosexuality, or a cigarette butt if you're British). The issue is the feeling behind those who often use the word - as you said[footnote]about them saying[/footnote], "Of course it is [a bad thing to be gay]". While there are some people can just shrug off people insulting something that is an important part of yourself, repeated verbal and emotional whalings have a tendency to take their toll on a person. And when such hateful attitudes are a pervasive part of the culture, it makes it even harder to just ignore it.

 

[Durgiun]

Feminists! Tough, resilient, independent, and don't need help from anyone! Up until someone calls them a **** in an online deathmatch.

 

[Aprilgold]

See, the curse is another word for vagina, and you said it can be a good thing in the right hands, and I'm just gonna stop explaining my joke now.

I mean, there's a lot of inequalities. There is no version of "******" or "Get back to the Kitchen" for straight white men.

Just sayin, that first word you used tends to be used just as frequently on straight white males. If anything, I've seen it's use on straight males be more overtly inflamatory.

Oh. Yeah. We were totally talking about different things. Her derp.

Why is ****** actually offensive to anyone, anyway? I know what it means and being pansexual I cop it more than your average person probably, but why is it offensive to be called homosexual? Doesn't it make you, the person taking offense, the one with the problem, because you take issue with being called gay, as if it's a bad thing? I get that the person saying it is trying to offend you and it's considered a slur, but... why?

"******!"

-"Being gay is a bad thing?"

"Of course it is, ******!"

-"Not really, no."

/end of

Its offensive because ****** means a pile of sticks used to burn Homosexuals way back in the day. So far it keeps said meaning among Homosexuals and still exists for one simple thing: the intent to hurt. It doesn't mean that your gay, it means that you should be burned to death. The latest definition has no real intention other then "YOUR GAY" which isn't offensive, but the word back in time was highly offensive.

All ****** means now is a throw away swear like many others, but it is still a derogatory term used against Homosexuals, just not online anyways where words change definitions.

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Simply put : Woman = people therefore should be treated like males who = people thus everyone should be treated fairly because humans = people.

Bam, done. Just treat each other nice and don't stop each other from being nice because you think its patronizing, their just trying to be nice dammit.

 

[Mozza444]

I don't care about anybody else but i for one:

Women don't need people to protect them.

I AM much stronger and more capable of defending myself and others than my girlfriend is, if and when the time arises i will always protect her. I also would for other vulnerable women for that matter, if a woman is being hit by a man should i not "protect her".

Women don't need to be treated differently.

I treat women different to men.
When will people just accept men and women are actually different?

Women do need to be treated like a human being, not a gender.

See above.
They are both humans and women.

 

[ToffeeMC]

Women don't need white knights.

Bonnie Tyler wants a word with you.

OT: But in all seriousness, the reason people do it is because a certain outspoken minority act like bimbos and think men will save them because they're hot. I know it's unfair to generalize and it's not your fault, and I don't do it, but shit happens, y'know?

 

[m0ng00se]

I do believe that men and women are not equal, and that neither side has one intrinsically superior position over another.

I don't understand. You believe men and women aren't equal, but that no side is superior? If it's unequal, there must be a dominant side and a lesser side.

Asymmetrical balance. Like Virtua Fighter or Brood War.

 

[DevilWithaHalo]

Women aren't babies.

Then why do they cry all the time?

Women don't need people to protect them.

Then why do they always pursue larger mates?

Women don't need white knights.

Then why keep up the knight in shinning armor bit?

Women don't need to be treated differently.

Then why ask for chivalry?

Women do need to be treated like a human being, not a gender.

Then why acknowledge they're women?

Perhaps it's just my personal experience, but every god damned time I read something like this people continually make bold generalized statements which are almost always inherently contradictory to individual desires. And when you call them out on it, suddenly the generalizations are damaging stereotypes and your perceptions were obviously inaccurate to begin with.

So I'm not suppose to comfort them, because they don't need to be protected, because they can fight their own battles, because they're the same as everyone else and I should treat them like everyone else. Ok, I'll pat them on the back like a buddy and tell them to man up. Wait... no... that would be gender discriminatory. Ack, I can't keep track of this shit!

 

[eddyshore6528]

Right on!

You gotta fight for your right to get insulted just like everyone else.

 

[Naeras]

Women aren't Babies

Why, thanks for the information.

And just so that I won't get a ban: women can stand on their own feet. That doesn't excuse sexism either way in the slightest, tbh.

 

[Thespian]

I mean, there's a lot of inequalities. There is no version of "******" or "Get back to the Kitchen" for straight white men.

Just sayin, that first word you used tends to be used just as frequently on straight white males. If anything, I've seen it's use on straight males be more overtly inflamatory.

Oh yeah, that's totally true. But it's not specifically tailored to the group. It's just that it's so offensive towards another group that comparing someone with that term is an insult. And that's what it is, really, it's a comparison.
It'd be like saying "You cried when he hit you? You're such a girl." except abbreviated and adapted for every day use.

I guess my point was just that while people call non-gays faggots, there's not really a word for straight white men that is used against other people in a derogatory fashion.

 

[Catrixa]

I feel like this thread is trying to compare things that suck by how much publicity they get on this site. This is kinda like calling someone out for complaining about a broken leg when there are starving children in India. Yeah, the children have it worse, but that doesn't mean that person's leg feels wonderful because someone else is suffering more than them. This site could stand to be a little more varied in its addressing of harassment issues (I've seen some frankly gut-wrenching racism on Youtube every time Muslims, Islam, or people of potentially Arab descent are vaguely hinted at, but Youtube is kinda the backwash of the soda that is the Internet), but this doesn't mean women are getting any more special treatment because you read a lot of articles on the Escapist about them.

Now, do women deserve more special treatment than any other minority ever, of all time? Ideally no, that would be silly. And if the League of Legends tribunal is any indication, people who use racial slurs are just as often shunned as anyone else. But I think the big problem is: it's easier to identify your sex over the internet than it is to identify anything else about you. This does not hold true in any game where there is no voice chat. So, it's pretty easy to see why Xbox Live gets the brunt of sexist accusations. Most women, however, don't complain online about these problems (I don't have any proof of this, but I'm pretty sure "most" of any demographic don't complain publicly about anything ever), they just quit playing multiplayer Xbox games (so says Extra Credits), meaning Microsoft doesn't get a dime per year from them for a problem Microsoft has the power to fix. And if 40% of the gaming population are women, that's 40% of the population that could be harassed into not wanting to play online. I think that's at least a good financial reason to be up-in-arms about women being harassed online.

 

[wetnap]

Well its true and gets to the heart of the matter, much "feminist" concern is based on a patronizing view of other women who need to be protected as they are feeble and can't and shouldn't be expected to stand up for themselves. Sexism under the cloak of feminism...go figure.

and yes what is accepted for men tends to be far different than what is for women. 9 out of 10 prisoners are male, let that sink in, now imagine if that were a figure for womens concerns, something that disproportionate would cause immense outrage for women with fingers pointed in every direction, but when its men, its just accepted reality.

 

[Vault101]

I don't accept it...its awful

those spacstic fucks should be drawn and quartered as far as I'm concerned

Exactly. See every person as a person, not a gender, else you're just as bad as the hooting assholes--just in a different fashion.

which is fine

but it doesnt exactlaly happen that way....gener issues still exist

 

[tobi the good boy]

Don't worry OP, I've got a flowchart!

Baby -> Toddler -> Child -> Adolescent -> Adult Man/Woman -> Old Man/Woamn -> Wormfood/Ceramic Pot

 

[Vault101]

So I'm not suppose to comfort them, because they don't need to be protected, because they can fight their own battles, because they're the same as everyone else and I should treat them like everyone else. Ok, I'll pat them on the back like a buddy and tell them to man up. Wait... no... that would be gender discriminatory. Ack, I can't keep track of this shit!

just don't be a dick

the answer to everything

 

[Signa]

I just take this as proof that chivalry isn't dead, just lying on the floor convulsing.

 

[wintercoat]

I just take this as proof that chivalry isn't dead, just lying on the floor convulsing.

Oh, that's only because manchildren with white knight complexes kicked the shit out of it for saying that being nice shouldn't be used as a way to get into a woman's pants.

 

[mateushac]

Please, blame the feminists. They're the ones who started all this.

 

[Smeatza]

I just take this as proof that chivalry isn't dead, just lying on the floor convulsing.

In the words of Dave Chapelle, "Chivalry is dead, and women killed it."
I'm not sure what the comedy/truth ratio is there but it's damn funny.

 

[wetnap]

I just take this as proof that chivalry isn't dead, just lying on the floor convulsing.

In the words of Dave Chapelle, "Chivalry is dead, and women killed it."
I'm not sure what the comedy/truth ratio is there but it's damn funny.

lol yep.

Add mahers making women nod to this..