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Zamn

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Mimsofthedawg said:
I have a few.

"Fox News is the most biased news organization!"
"Well have you ever watched it?"
"No!"
>.>
This is actually an example an argument I hate.

"Well have you ever done X?
"No"
"Well then you don't know"

You don't need first hand experience of things to know about them. And you don't necessarily know more about something just for having experienced it.
 

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supercowmanguy said:
"you're a drummer, what do you know
you just became my hero, thank you I hate that line

also the
"FUCK YOU"
(insert your name here) and gives you a gut punch, I argue because I can't fight
 

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Zamn said:
Mimsofthedawg said:
I have a few.

"Fox News is the most biased news organization!"
"Well have you ever watched it?"
"No!"
>.>
This is actually an example an argument I hate.

"Well have you ever done X?
"No"
"Well then you don't know"

You don't need first hand experience of things to know about them. And you don't necessarily know more about something just for having experienced it.
Neither of those are catchalls. There's cases where you do need first hand experience to talk about something, and cases where you don't.

I hardly think you'd say the reporting on mass effect could've been justified that way.
 

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the_unseen said:
allow or even FORCE people to carry loaded guns to stop or reduce gun violence.
I think mine is the one where people say that gun restriction keeps guns away from gangs. Because it doesn't they don't buy from legal dealers either way.
 

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Rawker said:
people who say "excuse me!" after I state my point. the irks me. I usually respond with, "Oh, it's fine, your excused."
Ha. I usually respond with "There is no excuse for you."
 

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EgoDeusEst said:
How about when Christianity tries patching up a failed and flawed belief with "the Lord works in mysterious ways".

MiserableOldGit said:
Anything that involves circular logic usually gets me thinking murder thoughts.
"The bible must be true because its the word of God, so by saying its the word of god it must be true."
Damn. Ninja'd.

Other than that, it tics me a bit whenever my friend excuses himself for getting owned in games with "I would have been better on PC". Yeah, sure, there is a difference between the two, I get that. But do you have to bring it up every single time you loose?
Ah yes - "If I had a mouse and keyboard I'd have beaten you. What annoys me is the assumption that you wouldnt be that much better if you had a mouse and keyboard,too. The majority of PC gamers suck by virtue of the fact they can't handle both- but there's no telling them that...
 

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EgoDeusEst said:
How about when Christianity tries patching up a failed and flawed belief with "the Lord works in mysterious ways".
I don't want to take this too off topic so I'll make this brief. The only thing I'd have to say about that is Christianity actually believes this is true because of the Bible. To say a belief is flawed is like saying emotions are wrong.

On that note I agree with this
MiserableOldGit said:
Anything that involves circular logic usually gets me thinking murder thoughts.
"The bible must be true because its the word of God, so by saying its the word of god it must be true."
because there is no reason that the Bible MUST be true. The whole point of Christianity is faith.
 

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cartzo said:
MiserableOldGit said:
cartzo said:
"do you have kids" no "well then you dont know what youre talking about"
Yeah, I hate this one- I've found a good response is "I don't have children, but I do remember actually BEING one..." Usually shuts 'em up.
"i know about contreception" thats pisses 'em off aswell
Yep- five and a half billion plus 'little miracles' is quite enough for one planet, thankyou ver' much.
 

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vivaldiscool said:
Zamn said:
Mimsofthedawg said:
I have a few.

"Fox News is the most biased news organization!"
"Well have you ever watched it?"
"No!"
>.>
This is actually an example an argument I hate.

"Well have you ever done X?
"No"
"Well then you don't know"

You don't need first hand experience of things to know about them. And you don't necessarily know more about something just for having experienced it.
Neither of those are catchalls. There's cases where you do need first hand experience to talk about something, and cases where you don't.

I hardly think you'd say the reporting on mass effect could've been justified that way.
The problem with the Mass Effect 'scandal' was misinformation rather than lack of experience. I've never played Mass Effect but I think I have a decent idea of what that whole thing was about.

The point, really, isn't that personal experience isn't useful, it's that it proves nothing in itself. If you have personal experience of something, say what you've learned from that experience, don't just announce that you have it.
 

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"Abortion is bad because God tells us so."

Not an exact quote, but I had to edit a term paper about why abortion should not be legalized. The above quote was the basis of a third of the person's reasoning, and the other two points could hardly be discerned from the terrible grammar and numerous spelling mistakes.
 

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BehattedWanderer said:
supercowmanguy said:
"you're a drummer, what do you know"
"well maybe you shouldn't have been there in the first place"
"I'm in woman's studies, and I'm the one who takes all the classes, so if I say there's no such thing as the female gaze, then there isn't"
But there is a Female Gaze. It implies "You're Retarded", "That's stupid", and "Why am I even talking to you" and several others all in one sinle facial expression.


"Your Face."
What is this Female Gaze thing, and why does it matter?
 

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Vanguard_Ex said:
When people say 'Can I finish?!' even though they started talking by directly cutting through your sentence.
Ha that is the most annoying thing.
 

MiserableOldGit

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realguypablo said:
EgoDeusEst said:
How about when Christianity tries patching up a failed and flawed belief with "the Lord works in mysterious ways".
I don't want to take this too off topic so I'll make this brief. The only thing I'd have to say about that is Christianity actually believes this is true because of the Bible. To say a belief is flawed is like saying emotions are wrong.

On that note I agree with this
MiserableOldGit said:
Anything that involves circular logic usually gets me thinking murder thoughts.
"The bible must be true because its the word of God, so by saying its the word of god it must be true."
because there is no reason that the Bible MUST be true. The whole point of Christianity is faith.
I think your'e confusing reason with faith. Emotions can be neither wrong, nor right, beyond using the phrase as a translation for its effectivness as an evolutionary tool in a given situation. Similarly, the rigours of reasoned belief and logic cannot be applied to faith, as faith takes the idea that unmoving, unqualified belief is a virtue, and indeed, a power in itself (which is why so many christians try to debunk the theory of evolution without feeling the need to actualy read the bloody thing, and so make so many schoolboy errors, like thinking Darwin said we descended from Apes). Thats why religion falls to pieces and retreats into circular logic the minute reason, or even a philosophical bent is applied to it. Small wonder christians have been regurgutating the same arguments they have since the sixteenth century.
 

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MiserableOldGit said:
realguypablo said:
EgoDeusEst said:
How about when Christianity tries patching up a failed and flawed belief with "the Lord works in mysterious ways".
I don't want to take this too off topic so I'll make this brief. The only thing I'd have to say about that is Christianity actually believes this is true because of the Bible. To say a belief is flawed is like saying emotions are wrong.

On that note I agree with this
MiserableOldGit said:
Anything that involves circular logic usually gets me thinking murder thoughts.
"The bible must be true because its the word of God, so by saying its the word of god it must be true."
because there is no reason that the Bible MUST be true. The whole point of Christianity is faith.
I think your'e confusing reason with faith. Emotions can be neither wrong, nor right, beyond using the phrase as a translation for its effectivness as an evolutionary tool in a given situation. Similarly, the rigours of reasoned belief and logic cannot be applied to faith, as faith takes the idea that unmoving, unqualified belief is a virtue, and indeed, a power in itself (which is why so many christians try to debunk the theory of evolution without feeling the need to actualy read the bloody thing, and so make so many schoolboy errors, like thinking Darwin said we descended from Apes). Thats why religion falls to pieces and retreats into circular logic the minute reason, or even a philosophical bent is applied to it. Small wonder christians have been regurgutating the same arguments they have since the sixteenth century.
As for the "we all descended from apes then" rebuttal(from Christians). It's the most ignorant argument I've ever heard.
And second, that's my point. Someones belief in whatever religion is not wrong or right. What matters is how it takes shape. As long as no one is hurt it's ok, same as emotion.
How is faith unqualified? Is it unqualified to belief that everything works out at random.
 

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You can't comment on this because you haven't done anything better. This is the number one line I hear people say when they defend their shitty taste in music.
 

MiserableOldGit

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realguypablo said:
MiserableOldGit said:
realguypablo said:
EgoDeusEst said:
How about when Christianity tries patching up a failed and flawed belief with "the Lord works in mysterious ways".
I don't want to take this too off topic so I'll make this brief. The only thing I'd have to say about that is Christianity actually believes this is true because of the Bible. To say a belief is flawed is like saying emotions are wrong.

On that note I agree with this
MiserableOldGit said:
Anything that involves circular logic usually gets me thinking murder thoughts.
"The bible must be true because its the word of God, so by saying its the word of god it must be true."
because there is no reason that the Bible MUST be true. The whole point of Christianity is faith.
I think your'e confusing reason with faith. Emotions can be neither wrong, nor right, beyond using the phrase as a translation for its effectivness as an evolutionary tool in a given situation. Similarly, the rigours of reasoned belief and logic cannot be applied to faith, as faith takes the idea that unmoving, unqualified belief is a virtue, and indeed, a power in itself (which is why so many christians try to debunk the theory of evolution without feeling the need to actualy read the bloody thing, and so make so many schoolboy errors, like thinking Darwin said we descended from Apes). Thats why religion falls to pieces and retreats into circular logic the minute reason, or even a philosophical bent is applied to it. Small wonder christians have been regurgutating the same arguments they have since the sixteenth century.
As for the "we all descended from apes then" rebuttal(from Christians). It's the most ignorant argument I've ever heard.
And second, that's my point. Someones belief in whatever religion is not wrong or right. What matters is how it takes shape. As long as no one is hurt it's ok, same as emotion.
How is faith unqualified? Is it unqualified to belief that everything works out at random.
Faith is predicated on the notion of utter belief, regardless of any and all evidence or facts that are put in front of you. The theory of evolution is a qualified, reasoned belief as it is backed up by a wealth of mutually supporting evidence, such as geological evidence, or fields such as genetics (when Darwin discussed the idea of 'plasticity' within a species, he was highlighting an area of weakness in his theory, this has subsequently been explained by genetics). Random is simply the phrase we apply to a given situation where we cannot account for all the variables and accuratly predict an outcome. As far as evolution is concerned this was explained by Darwins idea of reducable complexity, so the eye, for example, didnt form at random, but as the result of tiny incremental variations over many generations- those variations that were beneficial were more likely to continue, while those that werent were more likely to die out- anyway, once again I'm off topic wanking over Darwin- apologies folks (He was an effin don though)