Wow. I mean, I knew people would post a lot of really popular games just to different, but they're really out in full force today.
OT: Any Spyro game after the 3rd one.
OT: Any Spyro game after the 3rd one.
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The movie wasn't the best, but I seem to like it more than most people since I wasn't expecting greatness with Sandman and Venom as the villains. However, the game on the 360 is one of the worst I have ever played. I originally played the PS2 version of it when it came out and found it to pretty fun, but standard in terms of quality. I bought it a few weeks ago for the 360 just to give it a spin and it is almost unplayable. I mean I get my ass handed to me by the girls stealing teddy bears for Gods sake and can't progress at all. It's the only game I've found that no matter how much I try, I can't get past the 15% completion mark.
The movie wasn't the best, but I seem to like it more than most people since I wasn't expecting greatness with Sandman and Venom as the villains. However, the game on the 360 is one of the worst I have ever played. I originally played the PS2 version of it when it came out and found it to pretty fun, but standard in terms of quality. I bought it a few weeks ago for the 360 just to give it a spin and it is almost unplayable. I mean I get my ass handed to me by the girls stealing teddy bears for Gods sake and can't progress at all. It's the only game I've found that no matter how much I try, I can't get past the 15% completion mark.
Are you forgetting Red Dead Revolver, or is this a different critique?Miumaru said:
Red Dead Revolver was a few years ago, IIRC. I want to say there's a third game, but I can't remember the title.Mr Pantomime said:
He's said he was listening to the wrong people for feedback from the first game. The really hardcore gamers who were telling him all the ways the game screwed up, and he developed the game under the idea that Deus Ex had been a serious failure, rather than working with what he had been doing and improving it. There's a video somewhere from one of his university classes, where he and one of the other developers explain exactly what they did wrong in developing DX2.Sacman said:
I'll back you up on this. Far Cry 2 did have some serious flaws (handguns fucking disintegrate even with the upgrade and guard posts re-spawn in minutes), but, the game does a lot of really unique things. It probably shouldn't have been called Far Cry 2, but it is a unique title.Squilookle said:
Off topic I rather enjoyed Mercs 2, but I chalk that up to never having played the first game.
On topic, I'd have to go with Gothic 3. Such a brilliant series shot so horrifically in the foot by such an unplayable mess.
*Asks*Legend of J said:
Was it because it was an unimaginative and wholly derivative attempt to retone Batman as a Michael Mann character?
I kinda liked Bioshock 2, but MW2 looked like such a wreck I elected to wait for it to come down in price... and I'm still waiting.Legend of J said:
Redemption is as much a sequal to revolver as Bioshock is to System Shock. Its hard to see Redemption as a real "sequal" to Revolver. Hell, even San Andreas is counted as a Spin Off and it has way more connection to the "main titles" than the Red Dead's have to eachother.Starke said:Are you forgetting Red Dead Revolver, or is this a different critique?Miumaru said:Red Dead Revolver was a few years ago, IIRC. I want to say there's a third game, but I can't remember the title.Mr Pantomime said:He's said he was listening to the wrong people for feedback from the first game. The really hardcore gamers who were telling him all the ways the game screwed up, and he developed the game under the idea that Deus Ex had been a serious failure, rather than working with what he had been doing and improving it. There's a video somewhere from one of his university classes, where he and one of the other developers explain exactly what they did wrong in developing DX2.Sacman said:
I'll back you up on this. Far Cry 2 did have some serious flaws (handguns fucking disintegrate even with the upgrade and guard posts re-spawn in minutes), but, the game does a lot of really unique things. It probably shouldn't have been called Far Cry 2, but it is a unique title.Squilookle said:
Off topic I rather enjoyed Mercs 2, but I chalk that up to never having played the first game.
On topic, I'd have to go with Gothic 3. Such a brilliant series shot so horrifically in the foot by such an unplayable mess.
Okay, that was the piece of the mess I was missing. I knew there was a previous title, but I assumed the connective tissue was basically the same as with the GTA franchise (lots of little continuity nods and not a hell of a lot more). IIRC the original was a console exclusive, which would explain why I never played it.Miumaru said:
Oh no you asked for it XD.Starke said:
Ill start with bioshock 2 and why i didn't like it i just felt compared to the first it was a short add on. But i should of said this is the stuff i didn't like in RECENT years not of all time.
Dark knight i felt was purely overhyped aka the joker and since i couldent stand heath ledger since he done "A knights tale" I felt they took away all the awesome ness of the orginal joker and turned it into a cry emo version. I mean just look at the arkham asylum game it proven that in a dark setting the orginal joker STILL WORKED.
I can haz lizard jerky?Legend of J said:
I probably should have fessed up and pointed out that, for me "kinda liked" is damning with faint praise. It was a mechanically improved version of the original Bioshock in my opinion. Though, I never held Bioshock to be that fantastic a game to begin with. I did find both to be rather enjoyable mostly mindless shooters in a vein that has mostly died off in recent years.Legend of J said:
I still maintain the most awesome Batman film ever would be a live action adaptation of Dark Knight Returns with Mark Hamel playing the Joker and Tommy Lee Jones as Batman.Legend of J said:
That said, I did enjoy Ledger's joker, but I can certainly see how that wouldn't work for everyone. (My favorite is still Caesar Romero, no other Joker is so completely off the fucking walls insane.)
On a related note, more and more I find Nolan's films are underwhelming me. Memento is a really fantastic flick, Insomnia is a good retread of the Hitchcock style thrillers, Batman Begins is really just the basic Batman origin story (again), The Dark Knight struck me as a sloppy attempt to recreate Heat as a Batman film which runs about an hour longer than it needs to, and Inception is a hybrid of The Matrix and Dark City that goes nowhere new.
I tottally agree on the batman points. But i guess we will never agree on bioshock lol.Starke said:I can haz lizard jerky?Legend of J said:
I probably should have fessed up and pointed out that, for me "kinda liked" is damning with faint praise. It was a mechanically improved version of the original Bioshock in my opinion. Though, I never held Bioshock to be that fantastic a game to begin with. I did find both to be rather enjoyable mostly mindless shooters in a vein that has mostly died off in recent years.Legend of J said:
I still maintain the most awesome Batman film ever would be a live action adaptation of Dark Knight Returns with Mark Hamel playing the Joker and Tommy Lee Jones as Batman.Legend of J said:
That said, I did enjoy Ledger's joker, but I can certainly see how that wouldn't work for everyone. (My favorite is still Caesar Romero, no other Joker is so completely off the fucking walls insane.)
On a related note, more and more I find Nolan's films are underwhelming me. Memento is a really fantastic flick, Insomnia is a good retread of the Hitchcock style thrillers, Batman Begins is really just the basic Batman origin story (again), The Dark Knight struck me as a sloppy attempt to recreate Heat as a Batman film which runs about an hour longer than it needs to, and Inception is a hybrid of The Matrix and Dark City that goes nowhere new.
I think if Obsidian had been given the proper time to finish the game, KOTOR 2 really would have been better. It has a more character-driven story, small but nice additions to the combat system, being able to influence the alignment of your companions...in fact, I would say KOTOR 2 is better up until it becomes apparent that Obsidian ran out of time. And there's that restoration mod for the PC version that adds a whole bunch of the missing content. Good stuff.Turbo_Destructor said:
Anyways, I can certainly think of some mediocre sequels but Sonic 2006 takes the cake. I loved the Adventure games, and I even liked Shadow the Hedgehog. (Prepares for flaming) But Sonic 2006 is just torture, plain and simple. A boring, broken, incomprehensible mess that is only made worse by its fanfic-esque story and ludicrous loading times.
Spider-Man 3 on Wii was also a major disappointment for me, but at least that game has fun web swinging and offers a little bit of fun in short bursts.
I can pretty solidly chalk my feelings on Bioshock up to having played System Shock 2 a fair bit. In contrast, even the original Bioshock is basically just a competent and mildly amusing shooter. It's flecks of horror and roleplaying pale in comparison to their previous work, leaving the shooter mechanics, which are pretty competent if uninspired.Legend of J said:
The production cycle for KOTOR 2 was something like, nine to twelve months. For a videogame, particularly a 40+ hour RPG, that's ridiculously short. This was compounded by Bioware refusing to allow them any access to what Bioware was doing with the first game, during development.PhunkyPhazon said:
Heh, this is kind of ironic for me, actually. I bought the Wii version the day it came out, and at first I was satisfied. But then a few days later I saw a friend playing the 360 version. My first thought? Wii owners got jipped. Keep in mind SM3 came out only six months after the Wii was released, this hadn't really become the norm yet. Anyways, both versions certainly have problems, but I'd take the 360 version any day of the week.RowdyRodimus said:
And you know, considering they had to make the game under these circumstances, it's actually pretty amazing that they accomplished as much as they did.Starke said:
