would you ever become vegan?

[G1eet]

Nah. I love (cow) milk way too much.

 

[SonicKaos]

I don't like vegetables, so without meat and the like, I wouldn't be eating much of anything at all. I'd give up veggies long before I gave up meat.

I'm a meatitarian.

 

[n.s.c.m.]

We didn't fight our way to the top of the food chain to just eat salad.

 

[HT_Black]

Mm...no. No. Not even a little bit. Humans eat meat for a reason; and, in my opinion, it's not exactly a good idea to pick an ideological fight with God.

Wait, what?

God: "Hi there! Eat meat! That's what you evolved to do, after all!"
Me: "...Nah, I'd rather not."
*Sickliness ensues from lack of protein, culminating in misery and general unhealthiness*.

Fact of the matter is, humans are meant to eat things that bleed. Anything else is...shall we say, less desirable.

 

[BringBackBuck]

Apparently, there are quite alot of health benifits that come with going full vegan

See, I get the health benefits part of reducing your intake of often very high fat, high protein red meat. Personally I have changed my diet over the last 2 months or so and rather than eating red meat for dinner pretty much every day, I now eat 1 vegetarian and 2 fish option for dinner each week and on the other nights mix up chicken, pork, and red meat. In other words I now eat a balanced diet of fruit, veg, fish, & meat. I've dropped about 10kgs and never felt better.

However, the rest of the vegan nonsense is not about your health but instead some impossible to justify moral position. Not wearing leather does not improve our health. Choosing not to participate in paintball because apparently the paintball casings contain gelatin which contains cow's hooves is just plain ridiculous.

 

[Nylarathotep]

I consider myself a Vegan... well a Conditional Vegan- the condition that you consider "chiken" a rather energetic vegetable. And... cows. And fish, sheep, kangaroo, crocodile, duck, shellfish, quail and pigeon, if you want to be all pedantic.
Then of course, you also have to consider animal products like milk, cheese and eggs and "energetic vegetable by-products."

So...yeah, I guess, if pushed, I might have to admit to only being a Conditional Vegetarian.

 

[KaiRai]

No. Because if you love animals so much, why are you eating all their food? Selfish bastards.

But seriously, I don't understand it, they must have surely been taught the food chain? Are you going to stop cows inhumanely eating grass? Will you starve a lion because it eats deer?

We have sets of teeth that make us omnivores. Able to consume both vegetables and meat.

Personally I think vegetarianism is a load of horseshit because people want to save the climate nowadays or some crap like that.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Yes when they can copy beef taste and texture perfectly, untill then the only way to get it is to eat real beef, that comes from vegetables to begin with.... strange eh?.

 

[moretimethansense]

Sorry but going Vegan is actually pretty bad for you, the health benefits (if there are any) are probebly offset by the fact that we kind of need protiens and fats to survive, or at least stay healthy, I'm not gonna tell a vegan to "eat a fucking burger" but if your diet requires you at any point to take supplements or count out the protien level in the nuts you just ate, something is not right there.

Uhm, that's a load of crap. Soy protein is complete, so you can live on that. Plus beans, grains, nuts, etc contain all the nutrients you need. A vegan diet can be perfectly healthy, but requires bit of planning.

To get soy protein you have to extract it though don't you?
Not really something you'd find in a natural diet, and as I said without that planning you'd be pretty much fucked, at any rate if you wajt to do it then fine, I'm not gonna stop you, but it still isn't a natural diet by any means.

Load of crap part 2:
Soy are a type of beans, ergo each bean contains all necessary amino acids. You could eat them raw (if you have a grudge against your teeth), and still get all of those goody-goody nutrients. It is 100% natural, although speaking as a chemist I find the assertion that something is "unnatural" rather hilarious. No extractions are necessary, although if you do first grind them up, add water, mush it up, and then magnesium chloride or calcium sulfate, you get tofu. Hmm, tofu... Anyway, I guess that's the extraction you were referring to.

Basicly yeah, though I may not have made myself clear, I never meant to say that something being unnatural (By which I mean not found in this state in nature) was bad, simply that it wasn't natural, bread is not technicly natural, unless I've been lied to and they in fact sprout from bushes, it's just that many (though by no means all) vegans claim that a vegan diet is somehow more natural and healthy than a standard meat eating diet, which is a ridiculess assertation, particularly since if not for various modern conviniences a vegan diet would likely rtesult in sever health problems if not death.

 

[WolfThomas]

Only if being vegan would give me psychic powers. in that case, goodbye, cakes! So long, Milk Chocolate! I'm going to become a psychic superman that can punch holes in the moon!

This, a thousand times this. The only reason I'd become vegan.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Mm...no. No. Not even a little bit. Humans eat meat for a reason; and, in my opinion, it's not exactly a good idea to pick an ideological fight with God.

Wait, what?

God: "Hi there! Eat meat! That's what you evolved to do, after all!"
Me: "...Nah, I'd rather not."
*Sickliness ensues from lack of protein, culminating in misery and general unhealthiness*.

Fact of the matter is, humans are meant to eat things that bleed. Anything else is...shall we say, less desirable.

As far as I know, no religion says that God demanded we eat meat, lest he strike us down for our sin.

He just said it was cool.

 

[HT_Black]

Mm...no. No. Not even a little bit. Humans eat meat for a reason; and, in my opinion, it's not exactly a good idea to pick an ideological fight with God.

Wait, what?

God: "Hi there! Eat meat! That's what you evolved to do, after all!"
Me: "...Nah, I'd rather not."
*Sickliness ensues from lack of protein, culminating in misery and general unhealthiness*.

Fact of the matter is, humans are meant to eat things that bleed. Anything else is...shall we say, less desirable.

As far as I know, no religion says that God demanded we eat meat, lest he strike us down for our sin.

He just said it was cool.

(Read this in a mumbly voice)

Well what I'm saying is that since humanity's the dominant life form on the planet, and one of the central aspects of our evolution was the slaughter and consumption of countless animals, it's probably best not to go ahead and screw that up.

The god thing was kind of flippant.

 

[thethingthatlurks]

Sorry but going Vegan is actually pretty bad for you, the health benefits (if there are any) are probebly offset by the fact that we kind of need protiens and fats to survive, or at least stay healthy, I'm not gonna tell a vegan to "eat a fucking burger" but if your diet requires you at any point to take supplements or count out the protien level in the nuts you just ate, something is not right there.

Uhm, that's a load of crap. Soy protein is complete, so you can live on that. Plus beans, grains, nuts, etc contain all the nutrients you need. A vegan diet can be perfectly healthy, but requires bit of planning.

To get soy protein you have to extract it though don't you?
Not really something you'd find in a natural diet, and as I said without that planning you'd be pretty much fucked, at any rate if you wajt to do it then fine, I'm not gonna stop you, but it still isn't a natural diet by any means.

Load of crap part 2:
Soy are a type of beans, ergo each bean contains all necessary amino acids. You could eat them raw (if you have a grudge against your teeth), and still get all of those goody-goody nutrients. It is 100% natural, although speaking as a chemist I find the assertion that something is "unnatural" rather hilarious. No extractions are necessary, although if you do first grind them up, add water, mush it up, and then magnesium chloride or calcium sulfate, you get tofu. Hmm, tofu... Anyway, I guess that's the extraction you were referring to.

Basicly yeah, though I may not have made myself clear, I never meant to say that something being unnatural (By which I mean not found in this state in nature) was bad, simply that it wasn't natural, bread is not technicly natural, unless I've been lied to and they in fact sprout from bushes, it's just that many (though by no means all) vegans claim that a vegan diet is somehow more natural and healthy than a standard meat eating diet, which is a ridiculess assertation, particularly since if not for various modern conviniences a vegan diet would likely rtesult in sever health problems if not death.

A vegan diet is as natural as any other. Or do you know of any other animals who rely on heat to render meat safe to eat? Stating that one's diet is "more natural" than another is retarded...
It's a funny point, as raising animals is more costly than farming vegetables. Given the growth of the human population, meat might be getting so expensive that the only feasible option would be to maintain a vegetarian/vegan diet. Even with all of our modern technology, we simply cannot solve the problem of getting cows (or other animals) to grow muscles while consuming nothing but waste products...

 

[BRex21]

I probably wouldnt without having some sort of serious dietary issues, that said Veganism isnt necessarily healthier.
There are issues such as anemia, because Iron from plants is harder for your system to break down, osteoporosis, same reason but replace iron with calcium. A lack of B12 will make both of these worse.
There are also links between processed soy and breast cancer (in both males an females) and an estrogen like chemical found in soy is known to "feminize men" if over consumed.
Granted there are ways pretty much any kind of food can kill you, heck we can die from breathing.

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

Maybe.

I heard it gives you pys-

Only if being vegan would give me psychic powers. in that case, goodbye, cakes! So long, Milk Chocolate! I'm going to become a psychic superman that can punch holes in the moon!

ODGODDAMNITNINJAD!

I thought I had a fair chance at being the 1st one to get it.

 

[SsilverR]

No. Because if you love animals so much, why are you eating all their food? Selfish bastards.

But seriously, I don't understand it, they must have surely been taught the food chain? Are you going to stop cows inhumanely eating grass? Will you starve a lion because it eats deer?

We have sets of teeth that make us omnivores. Able to consume both vegetables and meat.

Personally I think vegetarianism is a load of horseshit because people want to save the climate nowadays or some crap like that.

yeah but it's humans making the personal choice, we're not going out and forcing our dogs and cats to be veg........ wait ..... yeah ok there are a few, but those guys are grade A arseholes

Yes we fought our way up the food chain, yes we're pretty much designed to eat meat ... BUT ... the human brain, the same one that produces these thoughts and ideas is just as natural .. and if my body can survive soley on non meat or meat related produce .. then why the hell not? apparently vegans tend to live longer, have lower blood pressure and if done right you won't lose muscle mass

humans don't need to do much of what they do today ... they do it because they can ... and being vegan for me is more than a "because i can" ordeal .. and i'm sure it is for many others too ... so who would make more sense? some dude or a happy, healthy couple in their 80's that have been vegan since birth.

not sure why people say being vegan is unhealthy ... tell that to the dudes at my boxing club .. and an 80 year old man that can still jump higher than me XD

 

[kasperbbs]

I have no reason to quit eating meat ,i don't need to lose weight ,it won't have any benefits for my health ,in fact it might worsen it ,it would cost a lot to make two seperate meals. Only motivation would be that i pity the animals ,but in nature nobody gives a damn how many cubs it has or how cute the dinner is.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Mm...no. No. Not even a little bit. Humans eat meat for a reason; and, in my opinion, it's not exactly a good idea to pick an ideological fight with God.

Wait, what?

God: "Hi there! Eat meat! That's what you evolved to do, after all!"
Me: "...Nah, I'd rather not."
*Sickliness ensues from lack of protein, culminating in misery and general unhealthiness*.

Fact of the matter is, humans are meant to eat things that bleed. Anything else is...shall we say, less desirable.

As far as I know, no religion says that God demanded we eat meat, lest he strike us down for our sin.

He just said it was cool.

(Read this in a mumbly voice)

Well what I'm saying is that since humanity's the dominant life form on the planet, and one of the central aspects of our evolution was the slaughter and consumption of countless animals, it's probably best not to go ahead and screw that up.

The god thing was kind of flippant.

Your post here are nonsensical.

But we both agree bacon is awesome, so its all cool.

 

[Kenko]

We didn't fight our way to the top of the food chain to just eat salad.

Agreed! Lets make a support group for carnivores where they can call and talk if they ever feel oppressed and stuff! And have rallies to get our voices heard!... Oh wait, we're carnivores and awesome, so we dont need sissy support groups and meetings.

So keep on being awesome carnivores!

OT: There's little reason for one to go FULL vegan. To include more veggies and other things to your meal however is always good. But I eat alot of veggies and fruits. Im appearantly a mutant of sorts as I like brusselsprauts or whatever they're called . A mixed diet, is the best one. Going only meat or only veggie is stupid. We're omnivores so get with the program unless your doctor tells you differentley.

 

[SsilverR]

I probably wouldnt without having some sort of serious dietary issues, that said Veganism isnt necessarily healthier.
There are issues such as anemia, because Iron from plants is harder for your system to break down, osteoporosis, same reason but replace iron with calcium. A lack of B12 will make both of these worse.
There are also links between processed soy and breast cancer (in both males an females) and an estrogen like chemical found in soy is known to "feminize men" if over consumed.
Granted there are ways pretty much any kind of food can kill you, heck we can die from breathing.

it's all there you just have to do some research before going into it ... also ... the soy thing is true ... thank god soy is only a grain of sand in the desert that is vegan cuisine eh?