Wouldn't a Fallout outside of the US not really work?

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GrinningManiac

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mikozero said:
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The scene is set in a bombed-out London Double Decker red bus
The radio flickers
The scene pans out to reveal St. Pauls Cathedral with a hole in the dome
Debris and trenchworks everywhere
The camera pans back a bit more to reveal a mecha-armoured British Grenadier with Bearskin hat and all
The radio flickers into life
"Chim-Chimmanee, Chim-Chimanee, Chim-Chim Charoo..."
see now you had me right up until the Mary Poppins reference, now i just want to slap you.
MISSION SUCCESFUL

What a super idea if I do say so myself

Or should I say - what a SUPERcalifradgilisticepsialidocious idea
 

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Bioshock:Infinite is set in the sky; I think a new setting allows for a completely new experience to a good concept.
 

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Setting a Fallout in the U.K would make sense, it would have to be more militaristic as the only rad shelters that were built were for the army.

Not a Fallout game but what about a Metro 2033 style affair set in the 80's with a punk and thrash soundtrack, set in the U.K utilising the open world of Fallout.

I would love that gone is the charm of the fifties replaced with the fear of Nuclear annihilation that was at the forefront for the best part of my early life!

I would buy it if it didn't scare and depress you it's doing its job badly!
 

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See, there is a lot to work with in Europe. Hell if it kicked off in Germany, you know we'd have a great big controversy over neo-Nazi groups forming! So yeah, 70's counter culture could really work!

Although I always imagined that the Monarchs would come back, believing themselves to be the great leaders of old whilst the pre-war politicians have long since been Ghoulified and have already established a basic government. When you think about it, there could be some pretty cool missions and you could even drastically change the in-game world assisting the faction you want to take over. The Monarchs or the Politicians.

Just imagine it, legions of Wastelanders blinded by the glory of kings and queens of the Dark Ages against a legion of Ghouls, pre-war and fighting for their established government. Throw in SAS remnants as 'Brotherhood of Darkness' type fellows (no job too dirty for the best killers around). Also some of those punk hairstyles in Fallout 3 and New Vegas might actually make sense...
 

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i think we could have more of a 40's style britain, i know it really would be copying london at the time, but with all of the "we will prevail" posters going up along with the harsh times, put in a mix of fallout 3 era and possibly ww2 era (kind of) weapons, have charasmatic people on the radios and what not, give it the amazing gameply of the newer fallout games and it would be brilliant

as some people have said maybe make it like the New californian republic in that the British have established a nation but they cant control it very well, with raiders and other rebel groups, while areas under government control are heavily militarised and regulated
 

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Azure-Supernova said:
someonehairy-ish said:
See, there is a lot to work with in Europe. Hell if it kicked off in Germany, you know we'd have a great big controversy over neo-Nazi groups forming! So yeah, 70's counter culture could really work!

Although I always imagined that the Monarchs would come back, believing themselves to be the great leaders of old whilst the pre-war politicians have long since been Ghoulified and have already established a basic government. When you think about it, there could be some pretty cool missions and you could even drastically change the in-game world assisting the faction you want to take over. The Monarchs or the Politicians.

Just imagine it, legions of Wastelanders blinded by the glory of kings and queens of the Dark Ages against a legion of Ghouls, pre-war and fighting for their established government. Throw in SAS remnants as 'Brotherhood of Darkness' type fellows (no job too dirty for the best killers around). Also some of those punk hairstyles in Fallout 3 and New Vegas might actually make sense...
Though I think you forget about the Europe-Middle East war that left both sides in utter ruins only 10 years before the Great War which then ever country got bombed. Meaning if they were already in ruins, you can expect getting bombed that they would survive.
 

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Who says other countries didnt have their own supermutants? Noones very original when it comes to genetic engineering these days.
 

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Mr Pantomime said:
Who says other countries didnt have their own supermutants? Noones very original when it comes to genetic engineering these days.
Well the fact that it was the US that developed F.E.V. I doubt Europe would also have it.

So no Super Mutants.
 

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DOUBLE NEGATIVES!!!!!

OT: I believe that there were people who survived the bombings without living in Vaults. I think that a Fallout: Paris or a Fallout: London could work. Perhaps there'd be more ghouls due to people being outside of vaults?
I'd like a Fallout: Dublin... Not gonna work, is it?

Anyway, I think that one set in Moscow would work nicely.

It could be like Metro 2033... Except; you know, maybe good?
Oh God, post-apocalyptic Moscow? I'm gonna need some Prozac to play that.

I think that Fallout: UK would be pretty awesome. Why limit ourselves to one country? Also, we could get some cool weather and stuff (this speaking from someone tired of living in a desert and playing desert games).
 

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Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Who says other countries didnt have their own supermutants? Noones very original when it comes to genetic engineering these days.
Well the fact that it was the US that developed F.E.V. I doubt Europe would also have it.

So no Super Mutants.
Why would it NEED supermutants :/ There would obviously be something similar or different, the supermutant thing is getting kind of tired anyway.
 

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pulse2 said:
Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Who says other countries didnt have their own supermutants? Noones very original when it comes to genetic engineering these days.
Well the fact that it was the US that developed F.E.V. I doubt Europe would also have it.

So no Super Mutants.
Why would it NEED supermutants :/ There would obviously be something similar or different, the supermutant thing is getting kind of tired anyway.
then what? I mean it wouldn't have deathclaws either, odds are a Fallout: Europe mind as well be a whole new series, since it wouldn't have anything else either.
 

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I think China would be a good location. It might have been hit hard but I seriously doubt that the communist party would let itself be vulnerable. If nothing else it would probably still remain, with the usual Chinese collapse signs like warlords and in this case also Brotherhood of Steel-types since the US had invaded the place.

The dealings of the Chinese government have not been covered too well either so there could be a myriad of horrors that had escaped Chinese labs and facilities.
 

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Korten12 said:
pulse2 said:
Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Who says other countries didnt have their own supermutants? Noones very original when it comes to genetic engineering these days.
Well the fact that it was the US that developed F.E.V. I doubt Europe would also have it.

So no Super Mutants.
Why would it NEED supermutants :/ There would obviously be something similar or different, the supermutant thing is getting kind of tired anyway.
then what? I mean it wouldn't have deathclaws either, odds are a Fallout: Europe mind as well be a whole new series, since it wouldn't have anything else either.
...Yeah, that was kind of the point I was getting at.

People said it wouldn't be a Fallout title...why? Because it's not American? It's a spin off, a new take on the series, like Modern Warfare was to the Call of Duty series.

Why can't GTA take place in Africa or Crysis take place in Japan? Does everything suddenly lose it's value if it doesn't take place in America? I understand that there are prominent American values in the Fallout series, and I will always see that as the original Fallout, but there is absolutly no reason it can't take place else where. The deathclaws and supermutants are just two creatures, are you really telling me that Bethesda isn't creative enough to think of something to replace the two of them in the UK -_-
 

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It wouldn't fit in my opinion...

I just (literally JUST) finished New Vegas and really the location influenced the game so much. The backstabbing and capitalist ideals couldn't fit any place better than Vegas. There's the wonderful inequality gap that just made everyone so much more interesting than in Fallout 3 in terms of the different factions etc, at least in my opinion.

Actually maybe it would work, but I don't care because right now I think I need to play through Vegas at leat 4 more times.
 

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I think a fallout game could work in other countries giving the layers new perspective on the war that caused the devastation along with giving the player new gadgets that never made it out of that country.

that being said and the new model of Fallout games being about immersion, For them to truly to work the characters would have to speak the language used in that country (like how Yakuza 2 and 3, in making an immersive game, has all the characters speak in Japanese)Same for countries like China, to get an immersive feeling you'd have to have the characters speak Chinese.... or you know just have bestheda give up on trying to give a sense of immersion to fallout.
 

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I think they could probably pull it off, but it would probably work better if they fleshed out some of the concepts in DLC's first instead of rushing into a new game. I would like to see one set on the day of the Great War and immediately after, where you are part of the army unit that was in D.C. They were mentioned in F3 but I can't remember what the unit was called.
 

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Korten12 said:
Though I think you forget about the Europe-Middle East war that left both sides in utter ruins only 10 years before the Great War which then ever country got bombed. Meaning if they were already in ruins, you can expect getting bombed that they would survive.
But as mentioned by Mr. Perlman himself during Fallout's opening: "...and the European Commonwealth would dissolve into quarrelling, bickering nation-states, bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth."

Given that the UK was part of the European Commonwealth, it wouldn't be wild to assume that after (or even during or pre-Resource Wars, European nations had their own vaults to preserve VIPs, notably for nations with Royal Families. Fair enough, this is all speculation and assumption, but it's not baseless. Europe seems to drop off the Fallout radar, but only because communication is near enough severed across the globe. Who knows who survived the fallout.
 

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Azure-Supernova said:
Korten12 said:
Though I think you forget about the Europe-Middle East war that left both sides in utter ruins only 10 years before the Great War which then ever country got bombed. Meaning if they were already in ruins, you can expect getting bombed that they would survive.
But as mentioned by Mr. Perlman himself during Fallout's opening: "...and the European Commonwealth would dissolve into quarrelling, bickering nation-states, bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth."

Given that the UK was part of the European Commonwealth, it wouldn't be wild to assume that after (or even during or pre-Resource Wars, European nations had their own vaults to preserve VIPs, notably for nations with Royal Families. Fair enough, this is all speculation and assumption, but it's not baseless. Europe seems to drop off the Fallout radar, but only because communication is near enough severed across the globe. Who knows who survived the fallout.
Well, thats the fun, you would start the game off as a descendant of a former king or of the royals long dead in the royal vaults before you and out you step into a world where everyone already hates you and wants to take over the place you came from.

The game basis or morals would base around either switching sides and helping them, being the negotiator and trying to find a calm meaningful way for them to escape the mutants outside and find shelter and food etc or help the elite monarchs to wipe all the poverty stricken scumbags off the planet.

There were Zepplins and such hovering over Britain at the time, so that would play a part in it.

This all reminds me of that film in Scotland, "Doomsday" (which was pretty crap btw but would make for a humourous game and an interesting take on Fallout Britain), with the neo-punk cannibals vs the medievil right wings.
 

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Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Who says other countries didnt have their own supermutants? Noones very original when it comes to genetic engineering these days.
Well the fact that it was the US that developed F.E.V. I doubt Europe would also have it.

So no Super Mutants.
Yes but how can you be sure other governments werent working on their own mutants programme? Ultramutants maybe.