Wouldn't a Fallout outside of the US not really work?

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Well i heard that the U.S annexed Canada so i thought that china might have bombed canada a bit so i could still kinda work if they did do such a game.
 

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Mr Pantomime said:
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Who says other countries didnt have their own supermutants? Noones very original when it comes to genetic engineering these days.
Well the fact that it was the US that developed F.E.V. I doubt Europe would also have it.

So no Super Mutants.
Yes but how can you be sure other governments werent working on their own mutants programme? Ultramutants maybe.
I doubt they would have since the Resource Wars and many countries barely had enough resources, mainly why the US was the only one.
 

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Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Who says other countries didnt have their own supermutants? Noones very original when it comes to genetic engineering these days.
Well the fact that it was the US that developed F.E.V. I doubt Europe would also have it.

So no Super Mutants.
Yes but how can you be sure other governments werent working on their own mutants programme? Ultramutants maybe.
I doubt they would have since the Resource Wars and many countries barely had enough resources, mainly why the US was the only one.
When did resources become such an important factor of Fallout :/ Half of what goes on in Fallout isn't supposed to be taken seriously, lack of Supermutants isn't enough to prevent it being an awesome game if it took place elsewhere.
 

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The UK has it's own very distinct 50s culture which, come to think of it, is kind of similar to that of 50s US.
This, you'd just need to find a British equivalent to Ron Perlman.
Sir Ian McKellen comes immediately to mind.

And as long as they're British-ing it up, giving John Cleese a Three Dog-like role as a radio guy, having a random encounter with a time traveler voiced by David Tennant, a tunnel with a Mole Rat who thinks he's a secret agent accessed via a postbox, a few Avengers references...

You can't tell me that Fallout: UK wouldn't work. Maybe it wouldn't quite be Fallout the way it is in the US, but we already know that not everyone was blown up or Ghoul-ified over there thanks to Tenpenny and Moriarty in the Capital Wasteland.

The one thing you'd be missing would be Super Mutants, because the Pan-Immunity Virion Project was a US/WestTek thing.
 

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pulse2 said:
Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Who says other countries didnt have their own supermutants? Noones very original when it comes to genetic engineering these days.
Well the fact that it was the US that developed F.E.V. I doubt Europe would also have it.

So no Super Mutants.
Yes but how can you be sure other governments werent working on their own mutants programme? Ultramutants maybe.
I doubt they would have since the Resource Wars and many countries barely had enough resources, mainly why the US was the only one.
When did resources become such an important factor of Fallout :/ Half of what goes on in Fallout isn't supposed to be taken seriously, lack of Supermutants isn't enough to prevent it being an awesome game if it took place elsewhere.
uh... the whole

[HEADING=2]Resource War[/HEADING]

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Resource_Wars
 

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i dont think we should worry too much about the cannon, thats something that can change at the whim of the writers. i would like to see a fallout in paris, or maybe rome. blown up vatican? that would be creepy yet neat. get a lot of coverage for the game too, "hey! they blew up the vatican! heathens!"
 

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Bah, half the "feel" of fallout was nicked from Australian Mad Max films, so its not like fallout couldnt be set somewere else.

Just think of all the new abominations that could of mutated elsewere?
 

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tlozoot said:
The UK has it's own very distinct 50s culture which, come to think of it, is kind of similar to that of 50s US.
This.

If set elsewhere, one could always make new lore, or simply contrast the different cultures and how they created a different post-War situation. People complain of games being same-y; why not make them different?
Speaking as an American, I would be really interested to see this 50's culture...as shown through the filter of a post-apocalyptic wasteland. I can see how it would be strange having a Fallout game without Super Mutants, Deathclaws or, Vaults but, I am more interested in seeing how the rest of the world is doing.
 

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Well, it would be hard... For one thing, there is no Vault-Tec in China, Europe, Russia, Canada,etc,which means no Pip-Boys, which means a new inventory management system. and there would probably be no:
Deathclaws
Mole Rats
Protectrons and other Fallout Bots
Super Mutants
Brotherhood of Steel
...and so on.

...actually, no deathclaws might be a good thing XD.

The only way I could see it working is as an expansion pack, like Point Lookout. Your character from, say, New Vegas, has found a way to get to a foreign country. This would most likely be Mexico. Since some characters in New Vegas ARE Mexican(see Raul), it would actually make some sense.
 

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I think it could work, but only if it is how the decayed ruins of, let's say, the USSR not as it was, but rather how it was viewed throughout the fifties ("Godless wasteland", stuff like that).

That could be very interesting.
 

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well considering that in the mother ship zeta dlc showed a view of the earth and it looked like the Atlantic ocean was GLOWING,and the fact that the US (just what i think,i could be wrong) probably launched every nuke in its arsenal,i doubt it'd work well.could be a nice experiment though

Edit: i think Australia may work,but i'm not sure...
 

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Korten12 said:
pulse2 said:
Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Who says other countries didnt have their own supermutants? Noones very original when it comes to genetic engineering these days.
Well the fact that it was the US that developed F.E.V. I doubt Europe would also have it.

So no Super Mutants.
Yes but how can you be sure other governments werent working on their own mutants programme? Ultramutants maybe.
I doubt they would have since the Resource Wars and many countries barely had enough resources, mainly why the US was the only one.
When did resources become such an important factor of Fallout :/ Half of what goes on in Fallout isn't supposed to be taken seriously, lack of Supermutants isn't enough to prevent it being an awesome game if it took place elsewhere.
uh... the whole

[HEADING=2]Resource War[/HEADING]

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Resource_Wars
Yes, but it's not going to break the gameplay if it took place somewhere else, there were more than enough people who played Fallout 3 and enjoyed it purely for the RPG aspect as opposed to the entire reasoning for everything.

I think only hardcore Fallout fans actually bothered to find out what it all meant, so I hardly doubt that it taking place in EU with a different spin would suddenly break the concept of 'survival in a wasteland'.

Alternativly, Bethesda could just make a whole new series elsewhere if it means it might apparently 'tarnish' the reputation of Fallout with the same concept, I can think of several cases in EU history where a game like this would be prominent. Being based on survival in a post apocalyptic world, there WOULD be cases of attempts to survive here too. There IS and WAS reserch being done here too that in the game could have spiraled out of control and become an epidemic.
 

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pulse2 said:
Korten12 said:
pulse2 said:
Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Who says other countries didnt have their own supermutants? Noones very original when it comes to genetic engineering these days.
Well the fact that it was the US that developed F.E.V. I doubt Europe would also have it.

So no Super Mutants.
Yes but how can you be sure other governments werent working on their own mutants programme? Ultramutants maybe.
I doubt they would have since the Resource Wars and many countries barely had enough resources, mainly why the US was the only one.
When did resources become such an important factor of Fallout :/ Half of what goes on in Fallout isn't supposed to be taken seriously, lack of Supermutants isn't enough to prevent it being an awesome game if it took place elsewhere.
uh... the whole

[HEADING=2]Resource War[/HEADING]

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Resource_Wars
Yes, but it's not going to break the gameplay if it took place somewhere else, there were more than enough people who played Fallout 3 and enjoyed it purely for the RPG aspect as opposed to the entire reasoning for everything.

I think only hardcore Fallout fans actually bothered to find out what it all meant, so I hardly doubt that it taking place in EU with a different spin would suddenly break the concept of 'survival in a wasteland'.

Alternativly, Bethesda could just make a whole new series elsewhere if it means it might apparently 'tarnish' the reputation of Fallout with the same concept, I can think of several cases in EU history where a game like this would be prominent. Being based on survival in a post apocalyptic world, there WOULD be cases of attempts to survive here too. There IS and WAS reserch being done here too that in the game could have spiraled out of control and become an epidemic.
well it really doesn't matter, becuase odds are their won't be a Fallout: Europe, odds are it will stay in the US and go to other cities like New York City.
 

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thats stupid, fallout can work anywhere in the world, as long as that place was nuked to hell.
 

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Korten12 said:
pulse2 said:
Korten12 said:
pulse2 said:
Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Who says other countries didnt have their own supermutants? Noones very original when it comes to genetic engineering these days.
Well the fact that it was the US that developed F.E.V. I doubt Europe would also have it.

So no Super Mutants.
Yes but how can you be sure other governments werent working on their own mutants programme? Ultramutants maybe.
I doubt they would have since the Resource Wars and many countries barely had enough resources, mainly why the US was the only one.
When did resources become such an important factor of Fallout :/ Half of what goes on in Fallout isn't supposed to be taken seriously, lack of Supermutants isn't enough to prevent it being an awesome game if it took place elsewhere.
uh... the whole

[HEADING=2]Resource War[/HEADING]

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Resource_Wars
Yes, but it's not going to break the gameplay if it took place somewhere else, there were more than enough people who played Fallout 3 and enjoyed it purely for the RPG aspect as opposed to the entire reasoning for everything.

I think only hardcore Fallout fans actually bothered to find out what it all meant, so I hardly doubt that it taking place in EU with a different spin would suddenly break the concept of 'survival in a wasteland'.

Alternativly, Bethesda could just make a whole new series elsewhere if it means it might apparently 'tarnish' the reputation of Fallout with the same concept, I can think of several cases in EU history where a game like this would be prominent. Being based on survival in a post apocalyptic world, there WOULD be cases of attempts to survive here too. There IS and WAS reserch being done here too that in the game could have spiraled out of control and become an epidemic.
well it really doesn't matter, becuase odds are their won't be a Fallout: Europe, odds are it will stay in the US and go to other cities like New York City.
I get the feeling you just don't want to see Fallout ever leave the US :/

Like poster below you said, Fallout could work anywhere once you have a nuclear holocaust, good ol' comedy and the survival mechanic.

Its a shame that it's resticted to the US, because it would be interesting to see how creative Bethesda could be if given a completly different lore, culture and history to work with.
 

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Korten12 said:
well it really doesn't matter, becuase odds are their won't be a Fallout: Europe, odds are it will stay in the US and go to other cities like New York City.
If I had to place a bet on it, I think Bethesda's Fallout 4 will be set in the Commonwealth---which as someone born and raised in the suburbs of Boston makes me happy. But New York makes a large degree of sense as well.
 

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pulse2 said:
Korten12 said:
pulse2 said:
Korten12 said:
pulse2 said:
Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Korten12 said:
Mr Pantomime said:
Who says other countries didnt have their own supermutants? Noones very original when it comes to genetic engineering these days.
Well the fact that it was the US that developed F.E.V. I doubt Europe would also have it.

So no Super Mutants.
Yes but how can you be sure other governments werent working on their own mutants programme? Ultramutants maybe.
I doubt they would have since the Resource Wars and many countries barely had enough resources, mainly why the US was the only one.
When did resources become such an important factor of Fallout :/ Half of what goes on in Fallout isn't supposed to be taken seriously, lack of Supermutants isn't enough to prevent it being an awesome game if it took place elsewhere.
I don't think when they bought the rights to Fallout was to completely change it. They bought so they could use the canon and such, not just to own it.
uh... the whole

[HEADING=2]Resource War[/HEADING]

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Resource_Wars
Yes, but it's not going to break the gameplay if it took place somewhere else, there were more than enough people who played Fallout 3 and enjoyed it purely for the RPG aspect as opposed to the entire reasoning for everything.

I think only hardcore Fallout fans actually bothered to find out what it all meant, so I hardly doubt that it taking place in EU with a different spin would suddenly break the concept of 'survival in a wasteland'.

Alternativly, Bethesda could just make a whole new series elsewhere if it means it might apparently 'tarnish' the reputation of Fallout with the same concept, I can think of several cases in EU history where a game like this would be prominent. Being based on survival in a post apocalyptic world, there WOULD be cases of attempts to survive here too. There IS and WAS reserch being done here too that in the game could have spiraled out of control and become an epidemic.
well it really doesn't matter, becuase odds are their won't be a Fallout: Europe, odds are it will stay in the US and go to other cities like New York City.
I get the feeling you just don't want to see Fallout ever leave the US :/

Like poster below you said, Fallout could work anywhere once you have a nuclear holocaust, good ol' comedy and the survival mechanic.

Its a shame that it's resticted to the US, because it would be interesting to see how creative Bethesda could be if given a completly different lore, culture and history to work with.
I don't think they bought Fallout just to change it completely, they bought it to use the canon, if they weren't they wouldn't have bought it.
 

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Korten12 said:
I don't think they bought Fallout just to change it completely, they bought it to use the canon, if they weren't they wouldn't have bought it.
But that entitles them to do whatever they feel they want with it, as with Oblivion, and if adding a spin off makes just as much money, I don;t see what they have to lose to be honest :/ Would you be less inclined to play it if it took place in the UK with a new lore but the same survival theme? JUST because it isn't taking place in America, doesnt have supermutants but instead something else and deathclaws don't make an appearance?

Games after all are first and foremost meant to be fun, the theme around it makes no difference if the game isn't fun, Vegas for example is a superb place to put Fallout, but when it's buggy as hell, it doesn't exactly make my experience entertaining -_-.

I already presented an idea it could be based on which goes to show that it could thrive once it has a rich culture to base itself upon. Fallout 3 is very patriotic, which makes it all the more interesting to play, a UK one for example would be no less patriotic.
 

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Fallout in different parts of the world would work based on rule of cool alone.