Well I never play fighting games.Meatspinner said:*A-hemm*SaneAmongInsane said:
OT: 5 bucks say that almost no developer of note will use the AR glasses
Xbox 720 "revealed" (XBW tells everything that they know)
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Because I guess and apocalypse happened when no one was looking. I mean why else would we have "Star Trek' and "Wolfenstein?"Vkmies said:
Does this make anyone else nervous?
The WiiU has an 'innovative controller', and it looks and feels like absolute shit. I want a very (VERY VERY) slightly tweaked 360 pad. The controller is damn near perfect, aside from a poorly designed D-pad. Don't screw with it.
Yet another person who doesn't realise that PC software designs aren't directly relatable to consoles. Think back a few years and you will realise games never ever ever used multicores at all. Then the 360 came out and suddenly everything was optimised for 3 cores. The exact number the 360 has. Wow.CrossLOPER said:
If the next gen of consoles is optimised for highly multithreaded tasks then games will head in that direction with no doubt.
The featured design is a mock-up from the magazine journalists.MC1980 said:
From the link:
They have taken design inspiration from the most recent tech that Microsoft have released an come up with their own design.
So what makes this one so much better than the Xbox 360 that I already don't own? Aside from it having a bit more power which I really don't care about too much.
Also: didn't they call their first console "just Xbox". Can you call 2 things the same thing? Isn't that like self copyright infringement, or at the very least incredibly stupid.
Also: didn't they call their first console "just Xbox". Can you call 2 things the same thing? Isn't that like self copyright infringement, or at the very least incredibly stupid.
I think alot of people are forgetting here that a lot of devs can't afford to developing games at the graphical level of the current generation of consoles, let alone the next.
There are a few things you're not realising here:ShinyCharizard said:
1. RAM and CPU have little to do with graphics. That is what the GPU is for.
More RAM means you can have larger levels, with more in them. Instead of a 200*200m box with 400 objects [Including all characters, buildings, grass, plants, items - everything], you can have a 600*600m area with 1600 objects. Obviously made up numbers, but you get the point.
A better CPU means you can have better AI running, and more things happening at the same time. Rather than fighting 2-3 enemies who only use basic attack patterns, you can fight 15-30 using advanced attack patterns, whilst also calculating real time damage to the environment and hundreds or thousands of status effects. Again, made up numbers, but you get the point.
2. A lot of the cost for graphics on current gen hardware comes from optimization to make them capable of running on current gen hardware. Graphics in general aren't that expensive. Rendering them in real time [Or with ultra-high detail i.e: the movie 'Avatar'] on hardware that is at least a decade old is where the cost comes in. Do it with a more powerful system, and you can rely on that system's power to an extent to simply brute force its way through the rendering, rather than needing you to hold its hand to make sure it doesn't drop below 30FPS too often.
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Wow, if this is true Microsoft really isn't going the power route this generation. Sadly no info on the graphics card, but I'd be surprised if its better than a GTX 420 TBH.
Also love how there's no clock speed for the CPUs. 4 cores 16 threads is all well and good, but if you're running it at 1.4Ghz, you're even further behind than I'd thought.
If they release this for $200-$300 it might be worth its price. Much more and you're really starting to push it. Old hardware, with a locked down OS, limited game selection and non-modularity among other things really don't deserve a lot of money to be thrown at them, especially when the reliability of said system is mostly in the hands of MS, and not the user.
Im honestly not sure if that looks more like....
'
A large external Hard drive....
or
A Hard shell attache case for a console that just needs a handle attached.
None the less... Unimpressive mockup is .... unimpressive.
However right now, to me...I am starting to think it will be moot anyway. With the way the consumers handle the industry and how the industry handles the consumers It is really making it harder and harder every day to not only call myself a gamer, but even be bothered to play games manufactured in this sub par, broken, impractical, whoring to the lowest common denominator fashion.
Its getting to the point of revolting. Wanna make your stomach turn... Go look at The Old Republic now that its Free 2 Play model has launched and see how malignant it has become in its pandering and what they have the sheer audacity to want money for.
And the point is, we get more evidence like TOR that this is the downward spiral we are on, and it can only get worse from here.
I would gladly stand up and fight and resist it to my dying breath, but why bother. Its pointless to do so because there are too many out there who wont, and will even buy into it and encouraging more raw sewage to be shoveled down our collective gaming gullets.
/sigh.
'
A large external Hard drive....
or
A Hard shell attache case for a console that just needs a handle attached.
None the less... Unimpressive mockup is .... unimpressive.
However right now, to me...I am starting to think it will be moot anyway. With the way the consumers handle the industry and how the industry handles the consumers It is really making it harder and harder every day to not only call myself a gamer, but even be bothered to play games manufactured in this sub par, broken, impractical, whoring to the lowest common denominator fashion.
Its getting to the point of revolting. Wanna make your stomach turn... Go look at The Old Republic now that its Free 2 Play model has launched and see how malignant it has become in its pandering and what they have the sheer audacity to want money for.
And the point is, we get more evidence like TOR that this is the downward spiral we are on, and it can only get worse from here.
I would gladly stand up and fight and resist it to my dying breath, but why bother. Its pointless to do so because there are too many out there who wont, and will even buy into it and encouraging more raw sewage to be shoveled down our collective gaming gullets.
/sigh.
Noooooo... IT'S THE GRAPHICS WHORE PC ELITISTS THAT CAUSE IT!Meaning of Karma said:
I read it on the internet.
LOOK! LOOK AT THE ABOVE!Pakkie said:
Just thought everyone should see this, it's not official, it's all speculation based on "leaks".
They lost my interest at Kinect 2.0.
I cant support a console that is designed with motion control stupidity in mind.
Hopefully the PS4 wont turn out to have gimmicky controls for casuals, otherwise I'll just stick with PC gaming.
I cant support a console that is designed with motion control stupidity in mind.
Hopefully the PS4 wont turn out to have gimmicky controls for casuals, otherwise I'll just stick with PC gaming.
That looks exactly like my capture card lol.
Okay, I think overall the stuff listed here is good. I'm still nervous about Kinect 2.0, and this "innovative controller" has me scared to all hell. The augmented reality glasses (or fortazela glasses from the leaked design doc) doesn't scare me all that much, as I think that could be really cool if used properly. As for the technical side I'm not too up with what's good and what's not, but there were reports that the 720 was being shown off at CES back in January and it was already running Battlefield 3 on Ultra. That's a good sign to me if that early on it could push that out, so I hope they don't go for lower graphical fidelity to push all of these "TV options" and crap (which considering I don't live in the US, is completely and utterly useless for me as they are ONLY catering to them, which blows).
Okay, I think overall the stuff listed here is good. I'm still nervous about Kinect 2.0, and this "innovative controller" has me scared to all hell. The augmented reality glasses (or fortazela glasses from the leaked design doc) doesn't scare me all that much, as I think that could be really cool if used properly. As for the technical side I'm not too up with what's good and what's not, but there were reports that the 720 was being shown off at CES back in January and it was already running Battlefield 3 on Ultra. That's a good sign to me if that early on it could push that out, so I hope they don't go for lower graphical fidelity to push all of these "TV options" and crap (which considering I don't live in the US, is completely and utterly useless for me as they are ONLY catering to them, which blows).
Yeah, I'm fairly sure that this is just an article made up of speculation designed to hype readers. I'm pretty sure I've read this magazine a few times and that sounds about right. You know, why not throw in a fake picture just to get peoples attention!Terminate421 said:
This exactly...anybody else reminded of The Monolith from 2001: A Space Odyssey? Also the concept of 3D sound just baffles my mind...isn't that surround sound?krazykidd said:
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No Microsoft you DON'T get to call the Next-Box an Xbox; You already MADE an Xbox and released it around 2000, remember? I thought the trend of naming newer things after their old counterpart (Wolfenstein, Fast and Furious, etc) died out in 2009 or 2010.
No. Hyperthreading allows a single core to efficiently divide its' power among two threads, effectively allowing your 3 GHz 4 core processor to behave like a 1.5 GHz 8 core processor. It makes task switching quicker.Boris Goodenough said:
It's not a magic thing that can make programs twice as fast. It's just a small optimisation with a good buzzword. That's why you don't see any improvements, and also why it's in there regardless of whether you feel you want it.