soapyshooter said:
What was it? or if you will be a gun owner Which one will you buy?
On my 21st birthday i am gonna pick up this lil beauty:
Its mainly of self defense, The way society is progressing you dont know when shit will hit the fan.
Serious answers are appreciated (someone will say BFG 9000) but whatever, have fun with it.
EDIT: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. THIS ISNT A THREAD ABOUT GUN RIGHTS! IF YOU DONT WANT ONE THEN FINE! STOP JUDGING THOSE WHO WILL BUY ONE OR ALREADY OWN ONE. Take your opinions to the right place, they will be appreciated and this is not the right thread to start a gun ownership debate.
Look at your state's laws, the Five-Seven and it's rounds aren't legal in all states. Also, not all states allow the full 20 round magazine.
No offense, but that's a stupid gun to buy. You can PM me if you want some more opinions.
But if you're buying it because you saw it in Battlestar Galatica or a game and/or because it has armor piercing abilities, then you should also know that it's basically a super .22 which means it just doesn't have reliable take down power.
If you want something for defense, look to the .357 or .40, they both have a 97-98% one hit take down with hollow point ammo.
Get a Sig 229 .40, it was made for the .40 and Sig has the most reliable production guns on the planet. Next best would be a HK USP which has a lock inside the mag well so you can lock up the gun and make it useless if you want. I like the .45, but the .40 is good too.
The BEST gun, if you're willing to spend the money, that shoots every type of ammo and reload without fail is what the LAPD SWAT team uses. Normally 1911 clones jam and are picky about ammo, but the Kimber 1911 made for the LAPD SWAT. It's a .45 and it's not picky about ammo but it shoots incredibly accurately. The .45 has great take down power and the gun can be easily customized. Get the night sights and get it in black and you've got a great combat gun. The downside is it's a little pricey.
If you still want an armor piercing gun, buy a rifle .308 and up will all be armor piercing and at much higher ranges where the other person might not shoot back. If they're wearing armor, then chances are they can shoot back. Kevlar can't stop hunting rifle rounds, it's part of the reason snipers use them.
The other thing to consider if shit hits the fan, is you want a common round that you can scavenge everywhere and the 5.7 is not at all common. The .9mm, .40, and .45 are some of the most common rounds in America.
Oh, my first was a Sig 229 in .40. If you ask the people at your local firing range, they'll have the most informed opinions because their rental guns get a work out and they're not trying to sell you anything. They know what jams and what doesn't, what's reliable and what's not.
Please don't buy the Five-Seven, I bought the P99 because it was James Bond's new gun and I hate it, the trigger sucks. It has a lot of features on paper but it doesn't matter if the trigger sucks.
Same with the Five Seven, the trigger sucks, you'll never fire as naturally as you can with a Sig, HK or Kimber.