Your Guide to Morally Bankrupt Games

[Burld]

Actually, after reading it, it is overly against a variety of things, but in many ways it is objective; they don't say how bad things are, merely what the game includes, in much more detail than any game ratings company could provide. They also have clearly played, or know someone who has played, the games in question, or at least some of them, from what I have read. So yes, I wouldn't use the guide, but it might be good for some clueless and concerned parents combined with their own judgement.
In conclusion, very conservative and christian, sometimes to the point of bigotry, but not the crazy Jack Thompson right-wing conservative christian nightmare that it could have been.

 

[ShyWinter]

I didn't know you could actually smoke cigarettes in Fallout 3. Awesome, I'm gonna try that right now!

Edit: Hey, Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway isn't even mentioned. Why not? Intense violence, blood and gore, strong language, use of tobacco, French publisher, I'm sure they'd love to hate that game too.

MMOs are the only games that have a rating in the "game addiction" catagory. Also there are games with the same "score" as others that are not labled as immoral. Moreover, none of the Pokemon games are labeled as having "cartoon violence". So biased, so unfair.

But then again, what the hell was the point of the list? If you really want to know what your kids are seeing, spend some fucking time with them.

 

[Brokkr]

I can't access the free PDF. I need a username and password apparently.

Yea I had the same problem.

 

[dekkarax]

I like their reasoning for Army of Two. Mahahaha.
More seriously, surely people don't need a list of what to avoid getting for their 8 year old kids or whatever.
I wonder if there's a film list too, or a literature list. Oh no wait, it's just videogames that are evil.

I'd imagine they wouldn't need one, films and literature have been around a long time in comparison to games, I'd assume that parents would already know what is inappropriate for those mediums; people tend to not research things enough because they've never had too; plus, a lot of parents are stupid. However, your point still is valid, games do have a bad public image.

I can't access the free PDF. I need a username and password apparently.

I got that too, and it sounds really funny, I feel left out now.

 

[Burld]

Yet again self-entitled moralistic fucks forcing their beliefs down our throat.

I thought you damn Yankees moved to the new world to escape this kind of shit.

I partly agree with you, but just to play devil's advocate, the introduction to their guide says: 'We understand, with this being a controversial issue, that some may not agree with more complete information being made available to those without the time, temperament or even talent to completely research the content of the wide array of video games presently available. However, we hope all will respect the rights of everyone to raise their children in a way they feel best matches their values and beliefs.'

 

[Skrapt]

http://www.fme.cc/VideoGame-Graphic.pdf

For anyone having difficulty accessing the .pdf it would be a same for you to miss out

 

[hamster mk 4]

You can access the PDF by going through their main page:
http://www.timothyplan.com/
The link is even on the main page. Looking at the source I did not find it too offensive. It was like an ESRB sticker only with more categories and a 0-3 rating system for each category. FYI the additional categories were "Homosexuality", "Demons", "Tobaco", and "Adictiveness" which I guess are pressing issues among the christian community which the ESRB does not adress.
For the most part I agree with the ratings they provided. However they are more likely to influance my buying decision in the oppoiste direction, because that is the kind of herritic that I am.

 

[anti_strunt]

Army of Two is pegged for "somewhat homo-erotic undertones between the two main characters."

This.

And they say Fundies have no sense of humour!

Yet again self-entitled moralistic fucks forcing their beliefs down our throat.

I thought you damn Yankees moved to the new world to escape this kind of shit.

How dare you force your individualistic beliefs down my throat! I demand to be told what to think, this goddamned instant!

 

[RetiarySword]

Grr I can't get to it, can someone post the link please.

EDIT: Never mind look on the right of the page:
http://www.timothyplan.com/ProActive/frame-ProActive-videogame.htm

 

[Kirosilence]

I dislike how lists like this paint the gaming industry as a satanic cesspool, something that has become an all to prevalent trend for right wing fundamentalist groups (and Fox news). I have no beef with any religion and of course I am completely fine with the choices made my parents pertaining to games they buy. what I have a problem with is when people believe it is their right to claim that these games are evil, and their duty to ensure that these games are not purchased because of "Gay Overtones".

But seriously, Army of Two?

 

[Jursa]

Sigh... They always do the same mistake. They try to stab a stone gargoyle with a toothpick. They always aim to stop the most commercially successful games in history and then wonder why we don't listen. It appears that when Jack Thompson's evil was destroyed, there was an imbalance in the world and many new evils had to be formed. Seriously World of Warcraft? A multimillion player player success earning billions and they hope to make a dent?

 

[mokes310]

Christians take note... this is why I dislike you as a group, because you allow people like this to have such a loud voice while the rest (and saner) of you remain quiet leaving mostly us atheists to combat fundamentalism.

Thank you, that sums up my feelings 100%!!!

 

[TyrNight]

if you cant get to the PDF they put up (they hot-link protected it, so it looks like) you have to go to the main site and click on it to get to it..

http://www.timothyplan.com/ProActive/frame-ProActive-videogame.htm

then click on the links on the right....

thats how I was able to get to it..

 

[SargentToughie]

Oh, great

This is why so few people stick up for christianity! this right here!

I'm a christian, I'll admit that I belive in god, but this... this is over the top.

sorry If I'm over reacting, but these people always make me angry, they give more liberal viewers of my religion a bad name

 

[gregatron08]

Before i go into this post let me tell ya, i am christian, and i get annoyed at this sorta junk (also, i have just ticked off the ones i've got and BLAM instant christmas list!)

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THIS FORUM THREAD

Sex: Multiple references to having children suggesting past sexual activity, not shown to the readers.

Nudity: In very few avatars can we see their full apparel, multiple unseen nudities possible.

Homosexuality: A screen grab consisting of 2 female entities in the same place as each other in tight clothing suggesting lewd motives and themes.

Violence: Avatars featuring guns and blood splatters.

Lanuage: Use of go**amn and "atheists"

Drugs: Most likely consumed at some point recently

Alcohol: The icon for regular poster is a beer.


Verdict: We're all going to hell apparently, F*** it, who wants to run over some grannies, get drunk and swear a lot

(On another side note, this is my 1st ever post, hope its alright)

 

[ukslim]

You'd have thought they'd have *liked* GTA IV. After all, you have to lure a homosexual into meeting you for a date, then murder him in cold blood.

A part of the game that made me feel a bit ill, actually...

 

[nimrandir]

Given the choice between private organizations making lists of 'disapproved' games and those same organizations lobbying for legislation to ban the sale of said games, I will opt for the former. While phrases like 'morally bankrupt' are polarizing at best, I see no reason a company should not be able to risk alienating clients.

This gives me a chance to rant on something that has eaten at me since the whole Fox News Mass Effect donnybrook; in the rush to condemn the game's sexual encounters (which, while wrong from most interpretations of the Bible, are never forced upon the player), everyone failed to notice that Mass Effect is the only game I can recall in which the player can patently state his or her theism. As a Christian with a fairly literal stance on scriptural interpretation, I found that refreshing. Did anyone else notice that?