Your Hopes For The Next Batman Flick?

[Casual Shinji]

I want bane and catwoman more than anyone, i dont think they could make killer croc, freeze, or the penguin serious.

I think that's the problem with these Batman movies. The most interesting comic book characters were the unrealistic weirdo's. But Nolan has pushed the whole "real world" Batman to such extreme that these characters just wouldn't fit in.

 

[G1eet]

1) Mark Hammill as the Joker
2)This-

Clayface is my favorite Batman villain because of the idea of how indestructible he is, how he is able to be anyone anytime, and how he can conjure any weapon he wants, He has the greatest possibility if someone would do him fucking justice.

Second. But if they do put him in, they better make him look verrry different from Sandman in Spiderman 3, or the masses would say "But tehre da same persun!"

Freeze would also be good. Not Riddler; at least not yet. Wait 'til the fourth movie (circa 2015), when nobody cares about Heath Ledger anymore.

 

[Kilaknux]

I don't think it will be the Riddler. As a character, he's too similar to the Joker to vary him enough - Unless they play him as an obsessive compulsive serial killer, which would be quite good, but how do you make a whole film out of that?

Personally, I'd like to see one of the more obscure villains making an appearance, like Black Mask or Hugo Strange. The former is, in his more recent incarnation, a magnificant bastard of a mob boss, manipulating everyone and everything in his rise to the top. He's also a physical match for Bats, most of the time.

The latter is a psychiatrist, head of Arkham, and Batmans first recurring arch-enemy. He figures out Batmans identity and starts toying with him psychologically, attempting to break him down. The two of them in the same movie could make for one hell of a story.

 

[Nazulu]

the only thing wrong with this is they need a joker, and I would like to point out that MARK HAMILL IS AN AWESOME JOKER

Spoiler

VERY VERY true. When I realized he was in Arkham Asylum I was quite smiley, but it's too soon after the momentous final perfomance of Mr. Ledger to tread on that ground. It's a great idea for a later entry to the saga, but I think it would be in poor taste to be in the very next film.

Screw Heath Ledger, in my opinion he is the least of all the joker's
and would you like to know why?
He couldn't do the laugh,
yes he was insane, yes he brooded in chaos, yes the magic pencil trick is awesome
but he couldn't do the laugh and all the joker's before him could
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSHAS38qwDI


Edit* sorry I guys I don't want to come off as a complete dick and nothing against Heath Ledger but I grew up with the Laugh

Don't want to sound like a dick either but the laugh is corney, it's not needed to make a great villain. Besides these movies are meant to be serious and Heath Ledger definitely made a great scary villain. I thought that was the whole point of these movies, to remove some of the comical stuff.

On topic, I doubt the next movie will be as good as the Dark Knight. I think it was a fluke and the rest of the villains aren't as cool as the Joker and Two Face. I hope I am completely wrong in every way, seriously I want to be wrong, WRRROOOONNNGGGGG!

 

[Fortesque]

My hopes is there WONT be one.

Batman Begins was brilliant, but I thought the Dark Knight was just a bad remake of the first Batman. Good ol' Jack played the Joker so much better than Heath Ledger

I call blasphemy on that statement, Jack Nicholsan's was just that - a joker. Heath Ledger introduced this unbelievably dark and edgy side to the character, making him so much more than just some psycho who wears face paint. He made it so you were eager for the Joker to appear - you wanted to see what Ledger was going to do with that performance next, and he never failed to disappoint. How he could go from a sort of sarcastic indifference in one part to psychotic rage in the next just felt so natural. Also, calling the Dark Knight a "bad remake" is ludacris. Better story, a lot more thematic depth, and FAR superior performances from every actor involved.

As for the 3rd Batman movie, I have a strong feeling it won't be as good as the Dark Knight, but that doesn't mean that it can't be a good movie. I personally hope they bring in the riddler, I think that character has a lot of potential provided they get a good actor (Johnny Depp, maybe, as an idea?)

Sorry, I just prefer Batman as it being comical. Im a fan of the old Joker, and the Joker being just that, a comedian. I knew it wouldn't be there, but The Dark Knight would have been so much better if the Joker had his ridiculously long barreled Revolver from the Original.

 

[CaptainCrunch]

I call blasphemy on that statement, Jack Nicholsan's was just that - a joker. Heath Ledger introduced this unbelievably dark and edgy side to the character, making him so much more than just some psycho who wears face paint. He made it so you were eager for the Joker to appear - you wanted to see what Ledger was going to do with that performance next, and he never failed to disappoint. How he could go from a sort of sarcastic indifference in one part to psychotic rage in the next just felt so natural. Also, calling the Dark Knight a "bad remake" is ludacris. Better story, a lot more thematic depth, and FAR superior performances from every actor involved.

I can only support your argument that Dark Knight is a good movie, but I will have to respectfully disagree that it is a good Batman movie. Nolan's Batman films are more akin to the Hannibal Lecter films than Batman, and in that regard I can concede Heath did well as Nolan's Joker. However, the original characters lack this type of depth by design, to leave the reader / viewer room to think about the motivation for these people, and what the represent in a larger vision of the world. Granted, this was done primarily to keep sales up for the comics, but reading between the lines isn't just for Hamlet.

You're right to call Jack Nicholson a joker, because The Joker acts that way. He cracks stupid jokes all the time, and generally is crazy. He functions as a counterpoint to Batman's detective abilities being based in logic and instinct; Joker's plans lack a logic that Batman can understand, but his instinct is no less devious and potent. We don't need to know specifically that he was abused as a child, and it's not important how he got his characteristic permanent smile. Adding those details to the story makes him more Buffalo Bill than Joker. The Joker is a clown pimp that kills people for a laugh, not a slobbering bipolar hobo killing people to make the world more socially-aware because his parent's didn't love him enough.

You're supposed to half-laugh at his madness, then feel bad because he used laughing gas to kill a hundred party goers with a crappy pun like "this party is a gas!" Nolan's Joker sacrificed that well-defined character aspect in favor of a more realistic back story, and I'm not the only one that picked up on this and found it distasteful and annoying.

 

[Ryokugax]

I'd love to see Bane played the way he actually is in the comics. A highly educated, 'roided up crimelord. I reckon they could pull that off in a way that fits in with Nolan's "serious" tone. But my personal opinion is going to go with giving Bruce a new love interest after his last one blew up.

This means it could be anything from the super-slick thief Catwoman or possibly, in-keeping with the serious tone, a normal-skinned but no-less dangerous eco-terrorist version of Ivy.

Also, if Croc were to be in it I could see them taking a cue from the graphic novel Joker, in which Croc is a huge, muscular, sharp-toothed, cannibalistic African-American gang member with skin that just LOOKS scaly.

 

[mattttherman3]

I can see someone like The Mad Hatter or The Riddler being in the movie, Cat Woman is also possible but not something I would want. I suppose you could put Bane in but that wouldn't be something I would enjoy either. Also I would rather see Hugh Laurie as The Riddler.

 

[GuerrillaClock]

The only major villain I can see being in it is the Riddler. The Mad Hatter and Killer Croc could make an appearance, but I doubt either of them is a major enough villain to be considered a suitable main antagonist. Maybe we'll see some more of Scarecrow after he got royally shafted in the last two films, and there's a possibility of Mr Freeze and Penguin, I suppose - although they might be a bit cartoony for Nolan's taste (yeah, I know the Riddler and the Joker were both as cartoony as it gets but they can be twisted into something deeply sinister and threatening).

 

[IamQ]

I hope they will have riddler return. Maybe two-face aswell. I don't recall him dying in the Dark Knight. Can't remember.

Edit: Holy Shit, I forgot to mention Harley Quin! She hasn't been in a movie yet.

 

[Ryokugax]

If they do wind up throwing selina kyle in the mix expect the new version. Less sex more master thief/mercenary badass. I'd look forward to it.

I'd actually like them to put in the more modern Selina Kyle. The one who protects her part of Gotham so Batman doesn't have to, but unfortunately that wouldn't work because everyone wants to see the Master Thief face off against the Dark Knight in a way that really emphasises Bruce's sexual repression.

 

[Ryokugax]

I hope they will have riddler return. Maybe two-face aswell. I don't recall him dying in the Dark Knight. Can't remember.

Nolan has stated that Harvey Dent is dead. Flat out, end of. The scene at the end of The Dark Knight where Gordon is talking about Harvey is supposed to be his funeral.

 

[GloatingSwine]

On topic: Would it be too much to ask that they simply not make another Batman movie, at least for another decade or so? How about they make something else for the masses to latch onto for its "flawless portrayal of characters?"

When they've got the musky smell of money in their nostrils? Not bloody likely.

Anyway, they should do Knightfall, now they've done Year One and Killing Joke.

 

[ace_of_something]

Catwoman might work cuz she isn't too over the top and they are trying to go for the 'kind of realistic' feel.

Anyway, they should do Knightfall, now they've done Year One and Killing Joke.

Bane would be pretty cool, I could see that working. Umm they did the Killing Joke?

Spoiler: spoilers from the killing joke book

I don't remember us getting joker's origin, the commishiner getting kidnapped or anything from that story in the two movies except the joker espousing nihilism

 

[jhonka]

They really should put in the catwoman like it was personified in this version of the batman http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0398417/fullcredits#cast
For the actual villain, well nothing can top the joker. When you get something as awesome, different and plain evil as the Dark Knights joker was, you've pretty much reached the top. No enemy that actually does evil for the sake of something will overshadow the fear of the guy who just did evil for fun.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

I hope they will have riddler return. Maybe two-face aswell. I don't recall him dying in the Dark Knight. Can't remember.

Nolan has stated that Harvey Dent is dead. Flat out, end of. The scene at the end of The Dark Knight where Gordon is talking about Harvey is supposed to be his funeral.

Harvey Dent is dead...but what about Two-Face? Nolan does seem to make a point of stressing that Harvey is dead, but nothing on Two-Face.

On-topic, I actually discussed this about a month ago with my brother-in-law. We came to the conclusion that probably the best options for a villain were The Riddler or Poison Ivy as an eco-terrorist if they wanted to keep the serious tone.

 

[Firia]

Bane I would assume has some form of apperence in the next movie. Be it a short stint, or a long role. But who would play him, I wonder? Who can do BIG, and also BADass at the same time?

 

[Zersy]

Well if we ever want the joker to be back how about there's a story arc where while in a attempt to use his infamous laughing gas it backfires and burns his face causing him to result to plastic surgeory giving a reason to why they changed the actor, johnny depp seems like the closest one right now.

and if they do make another batman movie then bane should definatley be in it and the story arc where batman is actually broken (bane breaks batman's back) and maybe the story will switch to banes or some other villains narrative while batman recovers.

hmmmmmmmm maybe but i think that it's gonna take a long time for them to think of something better then Dark Knight.