Your most hated anime cliche

[SilverUchiha]

Pointless fanservice. Case in point is High School of the Dead. Stopped watching halfway through, couldn't stand 75% of the show just being about showing some very jiggly, oversived, cartoon T'n'A.

I think the fanservice does serve a point... an important plot point. The series doesn't take place on the normal planet earth. It takes place in a world where the physics are extremely broken. One bullet can knockdown a wave of zombies and the slightest bit of movement will make the breasts of any woman jiggly violently and uncontrollably for what seems like hours...

... yeah... I'm just messing with you. That show really is a piece of shit. lol

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

I know it doesn't really count but...
The fangirls. The "I know 5 japanese words" and "I'm so edgy I watch fucking NARUTO" and "Oh, thought provoking anime? That's for suckers. Now shut up and let me watch pointless crap" types. There's more, but you get my point. I don't fully respect anime as an art form, since for every one Cowboy Bebop, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Neon Genesis Evangelion etc. there's about 356 Axis Powers Hetalia, Death Note, crap like that. Sorry, Japan, make moar TTGL, THEN we'll talk.

356? thats a random number.

 

[Capnrobert]

Freaking unneeded romance for sure so annoying

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

It starts to snow at Christmas.

YEAH! I CONC-

wait, isn't that supposed to happen?

 

[Tom Phoenix]

- Annoying fanservice. Unlike most people, I will be the first to admit that a bit of fanservice doesn't necessarilly hurt a show. But when it is done frequently and/or in a "in your face" manner, it starts to get annoying even when you are the intended audience....especially when you are the intended audience. I can't recall her name, but there is a female character in Bleach who's breasts are so enormous that you literally have trouble paying attention to the show.

Spoiler: You mean her?

Rangiku Matsumoto

No, I mean another character. The one with the bandana on her head, who keeps smoking something and provides a rocket for Ichigo and his friends so they can get into Soul Society.

Spoiler: Oh ok, so you mean her?

Yes, that is the one. Her cleavage is so large that it pokes your eyes every time it shows up.

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

Why is everyone white? Shouldn't everyone be Japanese or at least look more Asian? Hegemony sucks.

Time for me to pull out the big guns:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKTvFhRbBt8

your arguments are rendered irrelevant.

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

After reading much of these, I've concluded MANY of you don't like anime. Some of you seem to be rallying against the very things that make anime, anime. Such as facial expressions that are really stylized. Some things are understandable, but things like the facial thing are not.

your avatar is too appropriate.

 

[gphjr14]

this

This is actually synonymous with Asian theater. Coughing up blood is meant to show the character has the outward appearance of being fine however inside they're screwed.

I really don't watch anime anymore save for slightly newer stuff like gurren lagann, and movies like Karas, and sword and the stranger I just stick to a few manga.

Anime wise fillers that deviate from manga's story to the point its just stupid.

And pointless love triangles: girl A loves guy A but can't come right out and tell him, guy A is so fascinated with fighting, weapon etc. to notice/care. guy B likes girl A but is more of a joke to girl A even though she's so shallow/one dimensional she should be glad anyone notices her.

 

[SGrahambo]

This has probably been said already, but females that talk in a very high and almost squeaky voice just irritates the crap out of me.

 

[Amberella]

The way I see it is that a lot of these 'clichés' are simply differences in culture that a Western audience don't understand. I'm not calling the 'you're too stupid to understand the deepness of anime' card, because there are some things in anime which really do grate on me.

Let me use an out of anime example. Snake and Raiden. Snake would be what you'd call a typical Western hero, right? Raiden would be a typical anime hero, right? Aren't they kind of... opposites? Snake's a macho, flirtatious, grizzles, hairy, boot to the head kinda guy, he gets things done and he's not too hesitant when it comes to using force. Raiden on the other hand is a lean, clean shaven, awkward (around Rose), lovesick, almost puppy dog like character. Look at the hate he garnered from a Western audience.

I watch a fair bit of anime myself and I can say that a lot of characters do fit Raiden's mould. But it's obviously a popular popular character for the Anime/Manga demographic. How many DC or Marvel superheroes can you think of, that might fit Snake's mould?

I think it's less of these things actually being 'cliché' and more of them being aspects of a culture we're unfamiliar with. Big eyes is part of the art style, awkward moments and sexual tension is part of the humour. If you can't see it yourself, don't be surprised, it's from an entirely different culture. As for the 'good guy always being victorious' and the power of friendship, maybe the people citing this as a cliché need to watch some of the darker, more serious anime. Hell, you only need to go a few shades below peppy to FMA, and by no stretch does friendship conquer all.

On the note of the art style:

Spoiler: Medabots

http://www.slusham.com/img2/medabots.jpg

Spoiler: Full Metal Alchemist

http://www.otakuhq.com/images/anime/fullmetal-alchemist.jpg

Spoiler: Dragon Ball Z

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/DragonBall-Z-cn02.jpg

Spoiler: Ghost In The Shell: 2nd Gig

http://s3.amazonaws.com/designrelated_inspiration_book_entry_file_item/3bcee548b1171ed95376005c773e36f346e61668

Spoiler: Yu-Yu-Hakusho

http://teens.icpl.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/yu-yu-hakusho.jpg

There are subtle differences in some and drastic differences in others. You can't claim they the art styles are 'all the same' when they clearly vary according to the artist.

HOWEVER I do hold an issue with the huge breast. Maybe it's overcompensating for something?

Psh, my man said it all.

 

[Vykrel]

mostly facial expressions... they bug the crap out of me. like when characters talk with their eyes closed, turn into cat-faced freaks, develop strange growths to further signify certain emotions, etc.

and i hate how their mouths just flap flap flap the same way for every word in a sentence. it strikes me as laziness on the animators part, but i suppose it helps a lot to have it like that, considering that a lot of animes are dubbed in other languages.

 

[Falseprophet]

1) Most anime is based on shounen/shoujo manga, or aimed at that audience, so the main characters are always really young--like 25 max. I don't really hate this, but it's the main reason I don't watch a lot of anime anymore. These days I prefer a good seinen anime with more mature protagonists like Black Lagoon.

2) Every anime had the same six types of voice actors: irritating tsundere girl, plucky hero, annoying guy with the Kansai accent, sweet voiced Yamato Nadeshiko, evil arrogant woman, slightly effeminate snake-like villain, and deep-voiced villain. I got so annoyed with hearing the same voices over and over again, I now prefer to watch anime with English dub. It helps that the quality of English dubbing--4Kids aside--has improved by leaps and bounds in the last 10 years.

3) In every grappler anime, every fight scene took 3 or 4 episodes to resolve because of cross-talk and internal monologue, and my least favourite exchange:

HERO: Ha! I have blocked your ultimate technique! It will not work on me again!
VILLAIN: (evil laugh) You think that was my ultimate technique? I was saving my ultimate technique for someone worthy of it!
(Fight continues for another 2 episodes)

 

[Death God]

Fillers. Oh the many filler episodes they make just pisses me off to know end.The one on Bleach that I believe is still going on has lasted long enough to get its own season it's so long.

Haha, I always get a kick out of people who get pissed off at "fillers". Fillers exist for a very specific reason, which if you watch Gintama was outlined very nicely in one of the episodes (can't remember which). Basically, when you're basing an anime off an ongoing manga series, you're comparing a 16-20 page/5 minutes to read comic to a 20 minute animated show. These do not run at the same speed, the animated series runs at a faster pace and if left alone will catch up and overtake the official manga storyline. So they have three choices:

1. Let the anime catch up and split off into an entirely different storyline (Full Metal Alchemist)
2. Drag out each animated episode so that it directly matches the manga episode, usually by having riducously long recaps, excessive and unecessary flashbacks, full episodes of grunting power ups, etc, all of which greatly degraid the quality of the show (As seen in Bleach, Naruto, DBZ respectively).
3. Take a break from the main storyline and introduce supplimentary story archs, possibly featuring little seen secondary characters to provide more depth to the overall story.

I mean seriously, what do you expect them to do? And how the hell do people get so upset when rather than following the storyline from the manga that they already know they're given free additional content?

Well, I get the point of fillers, they just irritate me when the manga goes far enough ahead for quite a few episodes but still continue on with the filler.

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

Instead of ranting on my despise of Anime cliches (I could write 5 8-page essays on that) I should just point out that we might as well slaughter every shonen Jump anime in existance for the better of the Earth. (except Yu-Gi-Oh! its so stupid its funny)

 

[Cpu46]

I posted earlier but just remembered a specific anime that completely ticked me off.

Ichiban Ushiro no Daimao (Demon King Diamao in english I think)

Spoiler: big wall of text

This entire show was my own personal "what I hate about anime" but what kept me watching for almost ten episodes (may have been more) is that the characters, for the most part, are all likable. They all have redeeming values and help further the plot. The main character is probably one of the best I have seen.

An extremely good aligned person raised in a monastery goes off to magic college. During a sorting hat like process that tells the students their future professions he is informed that he is to become the Demon Lord, a near satanic figure who is meant to breed war and destruction. Possibly one of the best characters I have ever seen just by that description. He's tried his whole life to be the best person he could and now is told that he is destined to be one of the worst people in the world. The other students hate him save for the girls that are attracted to him.
Because of course every anime needs a love interest. Ichiban, being a harem anime, has quite a few of them.


In just under ten episodes the main character picks up a sword wielding honor bound girl who swears loyalty to him to make up for attacking him, a younger red head with a mysterious past who has the talent of turning invisible, a female robot from the government meant to watch his every movement due to him being the Demon lord, and the most popular girl in school who has secret motives dealing with him. By the time I stopped watching some sort of assassin like girl had joined in too.

He also picks up a scrappy young sidekick who seems destined to be a hero that would oppose the Demon Lord and a giant dragon who obeys him because he is the Demon Lord.


Ok, this anime COULD have been completely off the wall awesome; however the problem is that in order of importance the focus is on
Plot
harem/comedy
normal comedy
Action

The bad: "excuse me you seem to have put too much of your 12 year old wet dream in my plot"

Ok while there is no actual sex in what I had seen but the anime is inches from being hentai (spelling? its late and i don't feel like looking it up). I really wouldn't be surprised if it was adapted from a Hentai Manga (again, don't feel like looking it up)

The sword girls clothes get torn to shreds every time she gets in a fight
The young redhead needs to shed her clothes every time she turns invisible
The robots 'off switch' is a pull cord under her skirt and she desperately tries to 'endear; herself to the main character,
The Popular girls motives are to A) Get the main character to love her through whatever means possible B) be the main characters 'Dark mage' and rule the world by his side and C) an actual plot revolving around her brother.

Not to mention every other sexual gag that they go out of their way to exploit.

Its like a tug of war with Plot and action on one side and Harem/comedy on the other. Plot really can hold its own for the first few episodes and get you through the forced and rather painful innuendoes but after a while plot gets tired and can no longer pull you through the god awful sexual references, panty shots, and octagonal pop ups with the words "dont look" on them blocking any 'naughty material' (probably the only things keeping this from being hentai).

Now from what the Opening showed i probably quit before the actual plotline really took off. but I was barely dragging myself through the obligatory harem beach episode.

........ um, wow, i didn't mean to do a review but here we are, may as well go all the way. The Verdict: Ichiban Ushiro no Daimao a 4/10 only because the plot actually seemed to be going somewhere.

 

[Blindswordmaster]

Boobs. MASSIVE boobs.

Get the fuck out. Now.

First off, I actually like anime, at least most of the ones that I've watched. This is just stuff that I don't get or that pisses me off. I'll try to cite examples where I think of any.

-Androgynous characters(Naruto)
-Increasingly bizarre transformations that make previous forms completely obsolete.(DBZ,Bleach)
-Characters attaining godlike powers, yet still find bad guys that are stronger.(DBZ,Bleach)
-Harem anime where no one fucks.(too many to list)
-Anime where a girl falls in love with a guy that treats her like crap, or is a dick, or both.(Bleach,Naruto)
-Anime where a girl falls in love with a guy she's never said two words to.(Naruto)
-Guys that don't want to fuck the ridiculously hot chicks that constantly surround them.(you know the ones)
-Bad guys that don't die.
-Really bad guys that become good guys.
-Filler(a hell worthy trespass)
-Characters not having the balls to tell someone that they love them.(Seems like every single fucking one)
-Yelling makes you stronger(no it doesn't-DBZ,Naruto,Bleach)
-Friendship(next one to make a friendship speech gets shanked)
-God-like characters that are terrified of their significant others.(DBZ)
-Beach and hot spring episodes(I shouldn't have to list these should I?)
-Destiny
-Underage girls and characters that look like underage girls(Bleach)
-Pairings that don't make any fucking sense(DBZ)
-Collection quests(Dragon Ball)
-I'm dead, now I'm back, now I'm dead again, but I'm really not.(Bleach,DBZ)
-Terrible openings(One Piece)
-Japanese pop music(I hate it like Hitler hated gypsies)
-Teases(Bleach)
-Rapists(DBZ,Bleach,others)
-Pedophiles(no, just no)
-Children doing shit that adults with combat training should do(Gundam)
-Tournaments(Yu-Yu-Hakusho,DBZ)
-Characters that are super powerful, but hate to fight
-Tears
-Not killing irredeemable bad guys
-Plot armor
-Characters with vast untapped amounts of power that only old guys and training can unlock(DBZ,Bleach,others)
-Characters that are angry and anti-social helping people.(Bleach)
-Angst(Emos ruin everything)
-Orphans(keep a hold on your fucking parents

There's more, but I can't think of it right now; I can only let so much hate flow out at one time.

Edit: Wait, I've got another one! Series that don't tell you where or when their shit is happening.(DBZ,Yu-Gi-Oh,others I can't remember)

 

[WanderingFool]

Umm, well, truth be told I like the Gundam series, specifically Gundam Wing, and Gundam 00. But there is one thing that, has literally festered overtime into "pissing me off", its how exactly do they control the damn things? Actually, this bothers me for almost all big mecha anime. The only one Ive seen that made a bit of sense was G Gundam (what it was called in the US, dont know if the same in Japan), where you basically had a 1:1 control through the ultimate Kinect (lol).

 

[Tireseas_v1legacy]

The rich *****. A girl who is not simply rich, but is a total asshole, has a shrill, arrogant voice, and has henchmen (or, more often, henchbitches) as well.

 

[tombman888]

How a character can lose enough blood to fill a stadium and yet still be able to stand, walk, run, fight and win. Then they heal over the course of 20 minutes.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

My personal pet peave is all the series that are trying to frankenstien the success of Yu Gi Oh and Pokemon (both very stupid, terrible shows) for making some cheap "monster/cards/balls FIGHT TO THE DEATH" for advertisement for a card game kind of anime.

That, and the fact that all anime animation (I.E. amount of movement, frames in the episode, and characters fluidity) is terrible with the sole ecception to the rule being the freaking KIRBY anime.

It took a FREAKING PINK VACCUUM to get more then 12 frames of animation and not have blabber mouths.