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The Austin

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I love metal (Thrash metal is my favorite), but I dont like it when all they do is scream in a microphone and play the same 3 power chords over and over. IM LOOKING AT YOU JOB FOR A COWBOY!
 

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George144 said:
I dislike Metal intensely it all sounds like mindless thrashing and bad lyrics, I can just about stand hard Rock like Motorhead but thats the utter limit. I like my tunes like I like my women, groovy swinging and with a guitar in them. :)
o_O okaaaaay

well anyway, yeah your right, the "metal" nowadays isnt at all what metal actually was back then

bands like Motorhead, Megadeth, Metallica, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, etc.
they were actual metal bands, *sigh*, back then the music was real, but now, its all just a few chords played through the song, some simple guitar riffs with no change up in the rythm and so much screaming that the only way to actually understand any of the shite that they say is to be so hearing impared that the vibrations going through your body make you percieve something thats similar to actual lyrics
and because of that, its hard to either classify the "metal" now as actual metal or vice versa
but i digress, yes there are still some bands that still do metal correctly but still the general populace of "metal" lovers cant differ between actual metal and whatever the bollocks it is that they now call metal
 

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I LOVE metal and i disagree with "tallentless fags who play three chords"
I love metal because it it pumps me up when i need it and calms me down when i need it, and i love super heavy hardcore shit like lamb of god, Chimaira, and Hatebreed, but i listen to mostly anything including country, ska, and techno, just not pop, or any sort of hiphop or rap
as far as metal bands go, it either works or it doesn't it doesnt matter what sub genre it is
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VENN724 said:
George144 said:
I dislike Metal intensely it all sounds like mindless thrashing and bad lyrics, I can just about stand hard Rock like Motorhead but thats the utter limit. I like my tunes like I like my women, groovy swinging and with a guitar in them. :)
o_O okaaaaay

well anyway, yeah your right, the "metal" nowadays isnt at all what metal actually was back then

bands like Motorhead, Megadeth, Metallica, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, etc.
they were actual metal bands, *sigh*, back then the music was real, but now, its all just a few chords played through the song, some simple guitar riffs with no change up in the rythm and so much screaming that the only way to actually understand any of the shite that they say is to be so hearing impared that the vibrations going through your body make you percieve something thats similar to actual lyrics
and because of that, its hard to either classify the "metal" now as actual metal or vice versa
but i digress, yes there are still some bands that still do metal correctly but still the general populace of "metal" lovers cant differ between actual metal and whatever the bollocks it is that they now call metal
i used to think the same as you, but i just needed heavier and heavier, and you cant bash modern metal until you've been to a good concert, seeing Chimaira live really stuck it to me how awesome hardcore is and actually its only the mainstream modern metal that is three chords over and over, the good shit doesnt get on the radio or adverts
 

Stickyreiss

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VENN724 said:
Chimaira eh? i'll have to check them out
try a couple different songs from them, in particular, "painting the white to grey" (2001 pass out of existance), "dead inside"(2001 pass out of existance), "power trip"(the impossibility of reason 2003), "resurrection" (Resurrection 2007), and "on broken glass" (the infection 2009)
and one of my favorites and a departure from their usual sound, "jade" (pass out of existence 2001)
 

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beckett360 said:
The genre of metal irritates me because its a bunch of untalented musicisians struming power chords really fast and banging on drums really loudly.

However, there are some talented metal bands like the Disturbed and Metallica. I just hate Slipknot and those other copycat bands that are just like Spipknot or trying really hard to be like Slipknot.
George144 said:
I dislike Metal intensely it all sounds like mindless thrashing and bad lyrics, I can just about stand hard Rock like Motorhead but thats the utter limit. I like my tunes like I like my women, groovy swinging and with a guitar in them. :)
I'm going to pick on you two :D

I constantly have this discussion with one of my friends and hate all the ignorance he has toward the genre, i have no particular hate towards any genre but i do have genre's that annoy the hell out of me (bad pop, bad rap, hip pop) but everyone has the right to like and dislike the genre

However people don't have the right to says that all or most metal band are talentless or have no idea what there doing because i would like to see you get as good as they are, id also like to see you do a simple beat on drums much less be able to keep time fast enough to play drums like that

Also music, no matter what genre its is, music is the expression your feelings(in other words rhythmic poetry) and a lot of the of it is your feelings in the song. Disturbed, is a great example(although there not a screaming band) alot of there music comes from there own expression if you listen closely to there music you can hear the message.

If your too ignorant to say that all music isn't beautiful then you really don't know anything about art.
 

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beckett360 said:
The genre of metal irritates me because its a bunch of untalented musicisians struming power chords really fast and banging on drums really loudly.

However, there are some talented metal bands like the Disturbed and Metallica. I just hate Slipknot and those other copycat bands that are just like Spipknot or trying really hard to be like Slipknot.
ALL OF THESE BANDS ARE MAINSTREAM SELLOUTS
 

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HotPotatoXD said:
beckett360 said:
The genre of metal irritates me because its a bunch of untalented musicisians struming power chords really fast and banging on drums really loudly.

However, there are some talented metal bands like the Disturbed and Metallica. I just hate Slipknot and those other copycat bands that are just like Spipknot or trying really hard to be like Slipknot.
George144 said:
I dislike Metal intensely it all sounds like mindless thrashing and bad lyrics, I can just about stand hard Rock like Motorhead but thats the utter limit. I like my tunes like I like my women, groovy swinging and with a guitar in them. :)
I'm going to pick on you two :D

I constantly have this discussion with one of my friends and hate all the ignorance he has toward the genre, i have no particular hate towards any genre but i do have genre's that annoy the hell out of me (bad pop, bad rap, hip pop) but everyone has the right to like and dislike the genre

However people don't have the right to says that all or most metal band are talentless or have no idea what there doing because i would like to see you get as good as they are, id also like to see you do a simple beat on drums much less be able to keep time fast enough to play drums like that

Also music, no matter what genre its is, music is the expression your feelings(in other words rhythmic poetry) and a lot of the of it is your feelings in the song. Disturbed, is a great example(although there not a screaming band) alot of there music comes from there own expression if you listen closely to there music you can hear the message.

If your too ignorant to say that all music isn't beautiful then you really don't know anything about art.
I probably should have stated that it just sounds like noise to me, I'm sure other people find it brilliant in much the same way that people may find my music crap, its all about differing opinions, if we all liked the same things, music would be very dull. I dislike metal as a genre but that's just me personally based on my perceptions of what I've heard.
 

Stickyreiss

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Stickyreiss said:
beckett360 said:
The genre of metal irritates me because its a bunch of untalented musicisians struming power chords really fast and banging on drums really loudly.

However, there are some talented metal bands like the Disturbed and Metallica. I just hate Slipknot and those other copycat bands that are just like Spipknot or trying really hard to be like Slipknot.
ALL OF THESE BANDS ARE MAINSTREAM SELLOUTS
AND BY THAT I MEAN THEY ARE SHIT
 

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Rev Erebus said:
I listen to all types of music, i just prefer the metal side. Check my last.FM library i will listen to anything once before i make judgment. No matter what the genre is.
Stole my post =P
 

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CuddlyCombine said:
AvsJoe said:
I'm a huge fan of Bodom and In Flames, but I'm reluctant to call either one Melodic (except the two segments from Bodom's Tie My Rope, that's melodic alright). It's weird how different people perceive the same songs differently.
I'd argue that In Flames is melodic, if only for the inclusion of clean vocals and dual guitar parts in some songs. It's all in perception, though; for example, I may see Protest the Hero as progressive metal (leading into metalcore), while somebody else may see them as pure mathcore or hardcore punk (which they were when they released A Calculated Use of Sound).
I've always seen them as a heavy punk sound, but I can see how people think they are metal. They're certainly straddling the line, that's for sure. But I do agree with you, it *is* all in perception.
VENN724 said:
Chimaira eh? i'll have to check them out
You do that. I saw them in concert and they are fantastic. One of the best concerts you will see if you are a metalhead.
Stickyreiss said:
Stickyreiss said:
beckett360 said:
The genre of metal irritates me because its a bunch of untalented musicisians struming power chords really fast and banging on drums really loudly.

However, there are some talented metal bands like the Disturbed and Metallica. I just hate Slipknot and those other copycat bands that are just like Spipknot or trying really hard to be like Slipknot.
ALL OF THESE BANDS ARE MAINSTREAM SELLOUTS
AND BY THAT I MEAN THEY ARE SHIT
What do you prefer to listen to? Please keep this civilized.
 

danosaurus

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beckett360 said:
The genre of metal irritates me because its a bunch of untalented musicisians struming power chords really fast and banging on drums really loudly.

However, there are some talented metal bands like the Disturbed and Metallica. I just hate Slipknot and those other copycat bands that are just like Spipknot or trying really hard to be like Slipknot.
Really?
Is that how you view metal?
Have you even looked at guitar tablature further than your Guitar Hero fretboard and songlist?
From the bands you've quoted and the words you've written, I doubt you've even heard an extremely talented Metal band in your life.

Disturbed are also far from what I'd label a talented Metal band, they're catchy and entertaining, yes, but they use many of those powerchords you seem to be so against and they shy away from being technical with their songs.

Look up some Haunted, Devin Townsend or Opeth and learn before you burn.
 

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I rather like metal. I try to find music with good lyrics, and I usually succeed. Even metal songs have good lyrics, you just gotta know where to look.

Upon further analysis of this thread, it appears that most people who don't like metal either prefer the 80's metal (can't blame you it's pretty good stuff) or are generally ignorant(which I can blame you for). That being said, when we say "metal" we don't always mean "death-metal" which in itself has some really good songs (musically, lyrically you can't get to varied when singing about death). There's melodic metal(Mercenary, In Flames, list is here already I think). folk metal (Eluvite, Equilibrium, etc) , power-metal (aka Nightwish, and the like) and the list goes on to the various genres and sub-genres of metal.

Most people think of metal as crap because they hear one song that happens to consist mainly of power chords, screaming, and blast beats. But that's not the extent that metal goes to, so if you want to make a generalization, just please try to listen to more than one song.
 

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Srkkl said:
Wasder said:
Your ignorance is astounding. Not all pricks are talentless (cue Dave Mustaine) and most metal isn't what you've described. Listen to some In Flames and educate yourself.
First off I realized that after I posted this that I was making a very broad view of "Metal". The stuff I was thinking of when I posted this was crap like Atilla, AtackAtack, and August Burns Red. I actually do listen to bands like Megadeth, I don't particularly like Mettalica though. Secound consider me "Educated" on how much In Flames suck.
Heh, that was quite funny... I dont agree with you but that was funny.
 

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I love it. That new Baroness record coming out shortly (though I have it already - yarrrrr) might be the best release of 2009 if the new Between the Buried and Me somehow isn't. Which it will be. Why are we talking about this? Most people don't even know what "metal" is. It's more of an attitude than a kind of music - some have it, some don't. Some limit the definition to "screaming" or "Metallica right?" Some of you know exactly what I'm talking about with the attitude thing, and some don't. That is the difference between those who 'like' metal and those who actually appreciate metal. Just please stop listening to the radio. There is no soul on the radio anymore.

Bonus hate-spew: Attack Attack are an embarrassing shit streak on the underpants of music, yet they are already spawning copycats. Autotuned vocals (don't get me started on autotuned vocals) and gimmicky stage moves? Please. Save it for the pop divas.
 

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AvsJoe said:
CuddlyCombine said:
VENN724 said:
Chimaira eh? i'll have to check them out
You do that. I saw them in concert and they are fantastic. One of the best concerts you will see if you are a metalhead.
Stickyreiss said:
Stickyreiss said:
beckett360 said:
The genre of metal irritates me because its a bunch of untalented musicisians struming power chords really fast and banging on drums really loudly.

However, there are some talented metal bands like the Disturbed and Metallica. I just hate Slipknot and those other copycat bands that are just like Spipknot or trying really hard to be like Slipknot.
ALL OF THESE BANDS ARE MAINSTREAM SELLOUTS
AND BY THAT I MEAN THEY ARE SHIT
What do you prefer to listen to? Please keep this civilized.
what i mean is that they churn out homogenized commercial friendly shit, and they (most high profile metal bands, especially disturbed and slipknot) try to act all hardcore but they are really just commercial whores.
and hey, where did you see chimaira? you a cleveland local? (wondering cause chimaira is cleveland based)
 

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McNinja said:
I rather like metal. I try to find music with good lyrics, and I usually succeed. Even metal songs have good lyrics, you just gotta know where to look.

Upon further analysis of this thread, it appears that most people who don't like metal either prefer the 80's metal (can't blame you it's pretty good stuff) or are generally ignorant(which I can blame you for). That being said, when we say "metal" we don't always mean "death-metal" which in itself has some really good songs (musically, lyrically you can't get to varied when singing about death). There's melodic metal(Mercenary, In Flames, list is here already I think). folk metal (Eluvite, Equilibrium, etc) , power-metal (aka Nightwish, and the like) and the list goes on to the various genres and sub-genres of metal.

Most people think of metal as crap because they hear one song that happens to consist mainly of power chords, screaming, and blast beats. But that's not the extent that metal goes to, so if you want to make a generalization, just please try to listen to more than one song.
If there was one reply that sums up this thread, it's this one. Great post.
silasbufu said:
only rammstein
Have you heard of a band called Oomph? I wouldn't call them similar to Rammstein, but they compliment each other nicely. I suggest you check them out.