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Mistermixmaster

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Meh, I don't mind Rockstar really. Haven't played many of their games, tried two of the GTA games at a friends place but couldn't get into it, and none of the other games they've made piqued my interest. I really liked Red Dead Redemption and L.A. Noire though (which is the only Rockstar games I actually own).
 

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Metalhandkerchief said:
In an industry that needs more depth, more art and meaningful questions... Rockstar is part of the problem. They squander all their talent away on making games that are to gaming what a placid lake of piss is to nature. I'm not a conservative christian nut, but I am an intelligent person, and Rockstar's games are an insult to our intelligence. Sure, we shouldn't seek to eliminate all games like that from our catalogues. But Rockstar have never attempted something deeper, not even once.

Their game's bugginess on the PC doesn't help either.
Didn't you see the Extra Credits episode on racism that shows how Rockstar effectively used the issue to further deepen Cole Phelp's emotional arc?
 
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Sixcess said:
Rockstar depresses me. I remember playing GTA: San Andreas for the first time and being blown away by the size and scope of the world, the smoothness of the gameplay and how well the story was told... and wishing they'd use all that for something other than sensationalist, intentionally 'controversial' gangster posturing.
This. With the technology/expertise/resources that they have at their disposal, they could do something really genre-defining. I hope and pray every year that Rockstar do something else with virtual New York...
 

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rutcommapat said:
My problem with Rockstar is that anytime they come up with a great idea for symbolism/satire, they oversimplify it.

In GTA 4, Niko Belic comes to Liberty City in search of the American dream. Of course, all he finds is drugs, death, and the occasional cheap thrill. The message, of course, that we as a country don't know the American dream anymore - And frankly, that message would've had a stronger impact if Rockstar had done it in a more subtle manner, and let people figure it out for themselves. Unfortunately, after a certain point in the game you can't go anywhere without Niko having a tantrum to whoever will listen about how the American dream is bullshit - As though Rockstar assumed their audience would be too stupid to figure it out on their own.

In Red Dead Redemption, in one mission you're driven to a mission objective by automobile. Now, at this point you've spent the entire game on horseback, and comparison wise, riding in the dull machinery feels slow, boring, and lacks any sort of majestic feel, and it occurs to you that within the game, this is soon to become the norm. It's a heavy idea - At least until protagonist John Marston starts complaining about how he'l take a horse any day, and how the automobile is a piece of crap. And then the message simply stops having meaning - And as though Rockstar was afraid that the audience didn't get the idea, at one point in the mission it breaks down.

It's getting to the point where I feel insulted playing their games.
However there are other themes in RDR that Rockstar did show with subtly such as the cycle or revenge and can redemption be truly achieved. Not to mention the game was about the death of the Wild West as shown in the technology, weapons and even with John himself. The trophy/achievement you get for killing the last buffalo was probably the subtlest way to show this.
 

Woodsey

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They're alright.

They've vastly overrated in their storytelling "ability" and their writing (although gamers jump on anything that's not completely awful and try to throw writing awards at it, it would seem). GTA IV was dull as shit, but I quite enjoyed RDR. They can't do pacing to save their lives either.
 

Booze Zombie

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Honestly? All of their games come off as very... clunky, not quite reaching the mark they set for themselves. Red Dead Redemption is the closest they got to a perfect game, IMO and it was riddled with bugs and had that annoying tap A to run thing.

Loved that, hated GTA 4, thought GTA 3 was average at best and Sand Andreas was a good old time with quite a few bugs.
 

zelda2fanboy

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Rockstar is pretty great. They usually don't "break promises" because they have a tendency to wait until their games are almost finished before they show anything significant about them. The only game I felt "let down" by was LA Noire, and recent news stories have somewhat filled me in on why that happened. It wasn't really a rockstar game, the guy in charge was a prick, and they aren't going to work with Team Bondi anymore. It was still about 50% of a good game and an interesting one to say the least. I loved GTA 3, Vice City, San Andreas, GTA 4, GTA 4 Episodes, and Red Dead Redemption. It's a pretty solid track record.

EDIT: And The Warriors. That was one of my favorite games last generation. I never got the chance to play Manhunt, but Manhunt 2 was very okay. The problems with that game seemed to come more from the censorship controversy and the limitations of the Wii controller.
 

karloss01

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i like Rockstar's games though like some others on this thread they have lost the craziness and gone in the direction of more serious games. so now i'm more of a Saints Row fan then a GTA fan.
 

AmaterasuGrim

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I like them a lot but gta & red dead redemption whilst cool they weren't anywhere near as fun or enjoyable as past title's rockstar seem to be moving away from what made them who they are IV/RDR are nowhere near as entertaining as SA,VC,III,Bully etc they just have lost their touch they still make decent game's but they don't live up to last gen so far.
 

LuckyClover95

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I'm gonna go fangirl on you and say I THINK THEY ARE THE BEST GAME COMPANY EVER AND THEIR GAMES OR BASICALLY PERFECT
I'm not kidding. Bully was pretty much perfect to me, GTAIV was amaaaazing and Red Dead would be perfect if it wasn't too easy. San Andreas is excellent, but the missions are too faulty.
 

ALYKZANDYR

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I like rockstar, played most of their games over the years starting with Smugglers Run. I havent played a rockstar game i havent enjoyed. and they even include a free poster with their games.
 

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Mariena said:
Tastes like ass.
Seconded.

OT; I dislike Rockstar, any game in which you can be invited in for a cup of hot coffee does not have a place in my home.

Also Red Dead was pretty good.
 

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I freaking hate rockstar. I hate the terrible controls and AWEFUL save systems(L.A Noir seems to have improved the save system but the way save points are placed is still lackluster.)They always rope me in with the premise but never fail to piss me off with how they executed it. That said I had some fun rampaging in Vice City even though the missions WERE TERRIBLE.
 

MordinSolus

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If you watch the first minute or so of Yahtzee's review of Red Dead Redemption, you know my opinion.
 
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Sixcess said:
I haven't played either of those (I'd like to play RDR, if they ever port it to PCs) so can't comment on them. My main problem with Rockstar is GTA. I just look at that series and feel it hasn't evolved in any meaningful way in the best part of a decade.

Don't get me wrong - I enjoy the free roaming mayhem of the likes of Saints Row 2, but that game is so OTT it's essentially a cartoon. GTA increasingly acts like it wants to be taken seriously, and whilst they have the talent and the budget to do something genuinely dramatically involving, they can't, or won't, get out of the rut the series is in. It's as if Martin Scorcese just decided to make Goodfellas over and over again, for a decade.
I'm sorry, but what you're saying doesn't really make sense to me. You think GTA is in a rut and hasn't evolved at all in the past decade, but at the same time you acknowledge the radical shift in tone and gameplay that GTA IV took? What exactly are you referring to by rut, in that case?

Also, you can hardly say Rockstar is depressingly pissing away their talent on a "series that's going nowhere" when they have been working on at least two other games/series. And both of those games are completely different in tone, gameplay, emphasis, etc.

In fact, even within the GTA franchise, there's a lot of change and improvement throughout the series. GTA4 was a bit of a step back in some ways, but you have to admit they took some chances.

A game franchise one would describe as "going nowhere" and "in a rut" would be something like Call of Duty or Halo, where the biggest change they're willing to make is like, adding in nukes or jetpacks.
 

chris_ninety1

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Well I loved GTA, RDR and LAN so I'd have them pegged as my favourite developers. Plus they create the best sandbox worlds out there.
 

SoranMBane

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Their games may not always be the best in terms of gameplay, and I think they shouldn't be afraid to make a game that isn't set in a sandbox every once in a while, but other than that, they have my general approval. Any developer that takes the time to include actual good writing in their games (from GTA IV onwards, anyway) is a developer I can respect.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
I feel they've lost their fun streak.

It started with GTA4 and continued throughout Red Dead Redemption.

Bully was the last Rockstar game I actively enjoyed because it still had that fun and goofy nature.
I'd have to agree with this.
Whilst I didn't personally get that stuck into Bully, Vice City and San Andreas are considerably better games than GTA 4. I have literally thousands of hours on San Andreas (over four months of play actually..) and I still love the world. GTA 4 got boring very quickly, and after the mediocre storyline I found almost no replay value in it.
 

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liquidsolid said:
I really like Rockstar, I would consider them to be one of the few companies that I count on to make or release good games. I own the entire GTA series (except for Advance and Chinatown Wars) which I am a big fan of, own the two Max Payne games, Red Dead Revolver and Redemption, and L.A. Noire.

I'm looking foreword to GTA V whenever it comes out and Agent.
Does anybody have any new information about the exclusiveness of Agent?
I hope that it's no longer going to be a PS3 exclusive, me owning a 360 and all.

I did have all this worked out in my head the other day, I had a Big Picture-esque monologue about how exclusivity is a bad way to do business, but I forgot.
 

Zeema

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i just want everyone to know


i love Rockstar RDR is my fave Multiplayer game