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Jonesy911

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I am a purple belt in "Shito-Ryu" which is from the family of kazoku kai karate, I can kick your head off (If I don't pull my groin)
 

Treblaine

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Jesus, bagodix is a monumental buzz kill. I mean why the hell is he "fisking" me over shit like this? And the worst kind or presumptive fisking that just takes the bloody piss, it makes Michael Moore look like David Attenborough.

Ok, so if I am dealing with a drunk, wait, who needs martial arts to deal with a drunk... he's drunk, anyone could just push him over if he's a threat.

But seriously, the idea of talking about self defence where I live is utterly nonsense, not only because the chance of being mugged is so low but my rights to self defence are EXTREMELY limited to the point where I have two options:
(a) run away
(b) hope they only want to give you a severe beating

That is if you want to stay on the right side of the law.

Fighting back will likely land you in the same jail cell as your attacker, especially if you are able to get the upper hand which is the entire point of fighting back.

The title of this thread is "favoured fighting style" not "practical self defence techniques"

I'm think it is totally reasonable that if I am going to get into a fight I will take every advantage I can.
 

Kiefer13

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This [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheCombatPragmatist] about sums it up. Assuming we're talking about actual fights where the other side is attempting to seriously injure or even kill you.
 

Treblaine

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Kiefer13 said:
This [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheCombatPragmatist] about sums it up. Assuming we're talking about actual fights where the other side is attempting to seriously injure or even kill you.
^^^^ this.

But try telling bagodix that. He'd probably say some dumb shit like Indy should have gone to jail for using a revolver, probably thinks Han shouldn't have shot first either. What a buzz kill.

And BTW, I freaking love TVtropes.org
 

Seldon2639

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If what you mean by "CQC" is what real military forces use to disarm and disable opponents, you can either go with the actual combat training they do (Semper Fu, for the humorists among us, or Krav Maga and its derivatives), or you can go for the style a lot of those are based on, which is Aikido.

Which fighting style is preferable depends a huge amount on a couple of factors. First, what type of combat are you interested in doing (and this is completely personal preference); there are striking styles, grappling styles, and hybrid styles. You also have to pick a range for combat. Aikido is very up-close, so is Sambo and most grappling. For striking, you can pick a range more; Shotokan Karate (what I do) is a mid-range style, with a lot of punches, TKD is a longer-range style. You also need to pick whether you want an offensive style or a defensive style; traditional Aikido is a defensive style primarily, Shotokan is more offensive (once combat can't be avoided). Lastly, there's a choice of how you want to move your body, what makes sense for you in terms of getting power in your motion. Shotokan comes from the hips (a side-to-side motion), TKD comes from the legs (up-and-down momentum), and Aikido comes from leverage.

On the question of weapons; an Aikido Sensei I know described it best (in my opinion): the person who has the fewest rules and limits will be the one to win the fight. All the training in the world doesn't matter if you can't bring yourself to use it, and a lack of training matters less if you're willing to be absolutely ruthless. If one person wants a battle on the field of honor, and the other just wants to walk away, the second will almost always win.
 

G-Dragon

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tae kwon do is very effective IF you can find a teacher that isn't just out to make money.if you live in america 9 out of 10 schools are just black belt factories and the teacher doesn't care if you are any good. i was fortunate enough to get a good teacher and be extremely proficient, so he trains me with extra stuff that he doesn't teach most of the class.
 

ThreeWords

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I have no formal training, only a handful of tricks learnt from people, or invented by myself.

When I fight, I generally do nothing and stay very calm, then when I actually have to, subdue my opponent with an evil selection of pressure points, locks and chokes. I haven't thrown a punch in more than a year, but I never lose fights
 

Rolling Thunder

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bagodix said:
Treblaine said:
Well if we are talking about a drunk or some dumb confrontation in peaceful civilian life then I wouldn't fight them at all. What is the point? I'd just call the cops, they certainly take enough of my money in taxes I damn well am gonna use them if I'm entitled to. They are trained, armed and paid to deal with crap like this.
Jesus. Do you really think you can call the cops while someone is trying to attack you?

I mean when the hell did Escapist forums become a place to seek practical self-defence advice considering all legal ramifications?
There are no "legal ramifications."

Especially when other topics have included "What is your preferred zombie killing weapon". It should be obvious to everyone that this forum topic is entirely speculative and not to be taken seriously.
Yes, because clearly you're not taking this seriously at all. Also, it does not matter what other topics have discussed, because they have no connection to this one.

Just look at the name of this website: The Escapist

Do you know what escapism means?
Do you know what "evasive" means?

So excuse me Buzz Killington, I guess I do belong in jail for using a bit of freaking imagination in what is OBVIOUSLY a hypothetical scenario with no actual intentions, maybe I should have just been the 47th person to merely list their coolest looking martial art style instead of trying to introduce a new perspective.
Your perspective is irrelevant because the question presented by the thread is not "what would you do in a war?"

You honestly think I'm serious about calling in an air strike against some drunken hobo who panhandles me?
It sure seems that way.

Take it seriously?

THIS IS THE FIFTEENTH STUPID 'Martial Arts' THREAD WE'VE HAD IN AS MANY DAYS!


Excuse the rage, but you've just jumped down someone's throat for indulging in a bit of fantasy, instead of being another random idiot listing something they don't know much about, or bragging on how they could take three armed guys in a dark alleyway. Sod it. Can't we talk about better things?
 

Byrn Stuff

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If my Sucker Punch fails ("I don't understand why you want to fight me--HA!") then I usually just go with hitting his fists with my face until his hands hurt too much to keep fighting.
 

Eclectic Dreck

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bagodix said:
Eclectic Dreck said:
If it is a question of most efficient form of combat, then any of the more advanced martial combinations used by any of the world's special forces are the way to go. Neither flashy nor subtle, the key in any such amalgamation is rapid and efficient dispatch of your foes.
What I've repeatedly heard is that soldiers, even special forces, do not spend a great deal of time on hand-to-hand combat. They have assault rifles, pistols, knives, grenades, UAVs and teammates and whatnot, they don't need to fight unarmed. Also, they do not possess any mystical combat systems that are more effective than what you can find in the civilian world. The current H2H systems taught in the US Army and Marine Corps are based on various existing martial arts, mainly those popular in MMA.
It entirely depends on the nation's military. In the US, what you say is indeed true, but other nations still value close quarters combat techniques. Moreover, while the general population of the US military tends to receive very little hand to hand training, this does not hold universally true. The standard initial training of any soldier offers perhaps a total of two days worth of training in close quarters combat (bayonet included). After that, additional close quarters (or combatives) training is done at the discression of the unit commander.
 

Dark Prophet

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For me it's mostly "fuck you and run" and if I'm caught then I have to rely on my brute strenght, which is usually not enough.