70% of people in England hate their health care!
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AceDiamond said:
Come on people read my entire post. I said I know this is bullshit, the Fox example was just a catalyst to ask the bigger question of what members of the international community think about the American media and if they are satisfied with their health care.Glefistus said:
Honestly, would a politician in the UK or France, who proposes totally dismantling their nation's health care system stand a chance in hell of ever getting elected/re-elected?
People might want their Health Care system dismantled, but only to rebuild it to be more efficient and better funded. Bloody Faux quoting us out of context
Let us see here:
Just about any other industrialized country:
Get free emergency care, meds, check ups, surgeries, treatments, hospital stays and illness/maternity leave covered by that all too terrifying "Socialized Health Care," done by paying (LE GASP!) increased taxes! (dun Dun DUNNNN).
ooOOOooOOooOOoooo it's sooooo scary!
America:
Pay massive corporations a fairly decent size of your paycheck (assuming you're not part of the top 2% controlling most of the wealth) to get 'insurance' in case you get sick. Then, get sick and the corporation will try to find any excuse not to pay for your issues, whether it be labeling the treatment as "experimental" (as in calling liver transplants that have been used for 20+ years "experimental") or strip-searching your medical history for any inkling of missed illness that gets your coverage revoked immediately and permanently, and gives the corporation legal right to reclaim all the money they paid for your treatment.
This capitalist system is all fine and dandy and will make sure everyone in America is healthy.
Now tell me honestly, which one sounds scarier?
Insurance companies are licensed to kill. They can deny you a treatment that will save your life and cannot be tried for murder. You're taking a huge gamble with the American system.
Fox News is the least credible of sources around. They switch the party designations around when Republicans do something stupid, instead placing (D) behind names that rightfully bear an (R) in an attempt to make their viewers think "It was the Democrats!" The level of bias in FOX and MSNBC is horrific, which is why I look to the BBC for my news. And I'm American. And if that fails, then CNN.
Fox also had the good idea to cancel Firefly. I will never forgive them.
Just about any other industrialized country:
Get free emergency care, meds, check ups, surgeries, treatments, hospital stays and illness/maternity leave covered by that all too terrifying "Socialized Health Care," done by paying (LE GASP!) increased taxes! (dun Dun DUNNNN).
ooOOOooOOooOOoooo it's sooooo scary!
America:
Pay massive corporations a fairly decent size of your paycheck (assuming you're not part of the top 2% controlling most of the wealth) to get 'insurance' in case you get sick. Then, get sick and the corporation will try to find any excuse not to pay for your issues, whether it be labeling the treatment as "experimental" (as in calling liver transplants that have been used for 20+ years "experimental") or strip-searching your medical history for any inkling of missed illness that gets your coverage revoked immediately and permanently, and gives the corporation legal right to reclaim all the money they paid for your treatment.
This capitalist system is all fine and dandy and will make sure everyone in America is healthy.
Now tell me honestly, which one sounds scarier?
Insurance companies are licensed to kill. They can deny you a treatment that will save your life and cannot be tried for murder. You're taking a huge gamble with the American system.
Fox News is the least credible of sources around. They switch the party designations around when Republicans do something stupid, instead placing (D) behind names that rightfully bear an (R) in an attempt to make their viewers think "It was the Democrats!" The level of bias in FOX and MSNBC is horrific, which is why I look to the BBC for my news. And I'm American. And if that fails, then CNN.
Fox also had the good idea to cancel Firefly. I will never forgive them.
Hannity is onto my plans I see.pantsoffdanceoff said:
I'll have to tell Lenin we need to scrub the next faked moon landing.
AH HA HA HA HA HA HA! EPIC!hansari said:
I spy the first problem with this. Can you?Crowser said:
Fox News is bullshit and should never, EVER be taken seriously.
Most people aren't satisfied with their health care because being in the hospital sucks. Honestly, who really likes getting treated?
Well, being Canadian, I constantly hear people in the United States demonize our health care system as some evil socialist construct that makes people wait months and months for health care, even though they're on the verge of death. Although there may be a few rare examples of that, I have never personally read a single story of an individual dying here in Canada because the government made them wait for a life-saving operation. Although there are flaws in our system, the fact is 100% of the people here have health insurance, and they don't have to worry about getting sick.
What I find ironic is how the American media defends their health care system by claiming that there are no waitlists, and people can receive medical treatment immediately (provided they pay the thousands of dollars it costs for relatively menial procedures, let alone major ones), when there are MILLIONS of people who are uninsured in the U.S., and these people actually DO die because they can't afford medical treatment. What I think is worse than that is the fact that the health insurance providers of the U.S deliberately go out of their way to DENY people coverage. People WITH health insurance die because their HMO's refuse to pay for certain operations because they're "experimental", or whatever bullshit word they use. THAT is not a system worth defending by any stretch of the imagination.
What I find ironic is how the American media defends their health care system by claiming that there are no waitlists, and people can receive medical treatment immediately (provided they pay the thousands of dollars it costs for relatively menial procedures, let alone major ones), when there are MILLIONS of people who are uninsured in the U.S., and these people actually DO die because they can't afford medical treatment. What I think is worse than that is the fact that the health insurance providers of the U.S deliberately go out of their way to DENY people coverage. People WITH health insurance die because their HMO's refuse to pay for certain operations because they're "experimental", or whatever bullshit word they use. THAT is not a system worth defending by any stretch of the imagination.
I am british and without our NHS my grandparents generation in my family would not still be here because they have all suffered from either industrial disease, coal miners or they suffered from a form of cancer because of all the smoking, ask one of them if they h8 the nhs, they love it and the idea of it
Dear British People,mayney93 said:
Please gather about 10,000 of said elderly people. Send your respected elders over to our nation. Please ask them to beat this wise and intelligent idea in the minds of our elderly and Baby Boomers as they are too ignorant and stupid to see the wisdom of it. Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Americans with Brains
